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Old 06-25-2024, 06:47 PM
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Question Power folding and blind spot mirrors, is it possible?

I have blind spot mirrors by default. I want to add power folding ones that also have the blind spot in them. Is it possible to get power folding and Blind spot mirrors? If so, will the modules in the doors need to be replaced as well?
My current modules are:
A212 820 37 85 right
A212 820 34 85 left

Car is 2010 E550.

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yes, DCU is the one managing mirror power. I am sure this is doable but tricky.
The mirror is easy, the control module not so much.

Good luck researching the specific DCU PN# upgrade.

Then is it going to interface well with your chassis year ??


This could be a very popular project with fixed mirror guys.
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Originally Posted by Dan_2040
I have blind spot mirrors by default. I want to add power folding ones that also have the blind spot in them. Is it possible to get power folding and Blind spot mirrors? If so, will the modules in the doors need to be replaced as well?
My current modules are:
A212 820 37 85 right
A212 820 34 85 left

Car is 2010 E550.

Thanks.
The blind spot monitoring has nothing to do with the mirror other than the triangle displayed in red in the mirror when some other car is in the blind spot. The sensors that monitor your blind spots are located at the corners of the rear bumper. I just had a sensor go bad and had it replaced last weekend.

Folding mirror has nothing to do with blind spot monitoring, like I said, it is just an indicator light in the mirror so you can keep all mirror glass etc. but you need to find hardware to fold the mirrors, which is not easy. Might be easier to trade your car against one with that feature...?

I have the same car as you with 190 000 miles on it (highway miles) and kbb value for the car is a whopping $3000 - $4500...!!. It would be difficult to find these mirrors with "to make sense price", but please respond back if you find them as I'd like to have the feature too like I have it in my 2012 S550.

How do you like the power of the real 5.5 liter engine? I have the SPRINT BOOSTER installed and it does amazing things in this car. Throttle lag is gone, and it makes the car way more fun to drive.

I am thinking to install the Sprint Booster also on my 2012 S550 but it has plenty power with it's twin turbos so I'm not sure I need it.

I change oil every 5000 miles and I recommend that to everybody. It is the cheapest "insurance" for the engine.
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oohh, so not all W212 get folding mirrors ?
Damn I thought it would be standard on all W212 since 2009.
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The blind spot monitoring has nothing to do with the mirror other than the triangle displayed in red in the mirror when some other car is in the blind spot. The sensors that monitor your blind spots are located at the corners of the rear bumper. I just had a sensor go bad and had it replaced last weekend.

Folding mirror has nothing to do with blind spot monitoring, like I said, it is just an indicator light in the mirror so you can keep all mirror glass etc. but you need to find hardware to fold the mirrors, which is not easy. Might be easier to trade your car against one with that feature...?

I have the same car as you with 190 000 miles on it (highway miles) and kbb value for the car is a whopping $3000 - $4500...!!. It would be difficult to find these mirrors with "to make sense price", but please respond back if you find them as I'd like to have the feature too like I have it in my 2012 S550.

How do you like the power of the real 5.5 liter engine? I have the SPRINT BOOSTER installed and it does amazing things in this car. Throttle lag is gone, and it makes the car way more fun to drive.

I am thinking to install the Sprint Booster also on my 2012 S550 but it has plenty power with it's twin turbos so I'm not sure I need it.

I change oil every 5000 miles and I recommend that to everybody. It is the cheapest "insurance" for the engine.
Yea, I'm aware what and how the blind spot works, but it does need that plug and power to provide to the indicator on the mirror which I have, so my main question is will every power folding mirror module for the door that will be sourced from out side of US would have that plug and power the indicator for BS. I have a devious idea to get power folding mirrors and Frankenstein one complete mirror (one each side) that will have it all. Playing a bit with the wiring and swapping some pins on the connectors. Just need to be sure which modules I need to get. As a matter of fact I already got a pair of folding mirrors to try this out, but no modules.

To your second question. I do find it ok, but there is a bit of lag and gradual acceleration until you floor it, kick down as they call it. I Actually never heard of this SPRINT BOOSTER thingamajig, PM me if you have more info. I specifically opted out of having turbos, just one thing I don't need to care and think about it breaking. I know the engine can be ECU tuned, for better performance and even slightly better fuel efficiency, will probably do that down the line. I also don't want to cheap out on oil changes 5-6k miles is plenty enough
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The following are just my opinions. (That's a stupid thing to say. Everything I say is usually my opinion.)
  1. Folding mirrors are cool, but don't really impress anyone. I have them on my SL and I use them to visually check if I locked my car. But that's about it.
  2. I think Sprint Booster is like Pedal Commander. They both affect pedal response/sensitivity, but don't increase power. They can actually affect drivability. I have two Pedal Commanders -- one for a 2004 SL500 and one for a 2014 C350. The SL500 is sold and I took it out of the C350. Not sure if either would fit your car. I can try to find out. They are about $300 new on Amazon but are cheaper on the pedalcommander.com website. (EDIT)
  3. ECU tuning on a NA car will provide limited benefits, usually not worth the price of the tune. I did this for the SL500 and could NOT tell any difference. Didn't bother with the C350 because I think a tune MAYBE added 17hp and was like $600 -- not worth it.
EDIT: Actually, the Pedal Commander for my C350 is the same for your E550 (PC43). If interested, PM me.

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I completed the folding mirror retrofit on my 2010 a few years ago.

Purchased the folding mirrors and door switch on eBay from overseas and contacted the man in this video for remote programming using Vediamo.

Works like a charm. Used the same door modules. Only required the mirrors and the switch.

Not much folding in the folding mirror but enough to make a difference in the garage.


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Yes, it is possible to add power folding mirrors that also have blind spot detection for your 2010 E550. However, you may need to replace the door modules to accommodate the new features. The current modules you have, A212 820 37 85 (right) and A212 820 34 85 (left), might not support power folding functionality or at a min you will have to code them with vediamo.
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Originally Posted by jimyj
Yes, it is possible to add power folding mirrors that also have blind spot detection for your 2010 E550. However, you may need to replace the door modules to accommodate the new features. The current modules you have, A212 820 37 85 (right) and A212 820 34 85 (left), might not support power folding functionality or at a min you will have to code them with vediamo.

An update: coding is done with vediamo. Tried basic folding mirrors on current modules and don't work on locking the car. Hadn't come to dismantling the door to add the button panel yet, not sure if it is required for it to work on locking.
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its quite possible, even likely, that multiple modules need coding for any given feature, and if those codings aren't all matched, odd things happen.
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Originally Posted by retna7
I completed the folding mirror retrofit on my 2010 a few years ago.
Purchased the folding mirrors and door switch on eBay from overseas and contacted the man in this video for remote programming using Vediamo.
Do you have the blind spot function with indicator on the mirrors? I know this guy's tutorials. But what I want is to preserve my blind spot indicators and have power folding at the same time. For which I am trying to understand do I need a specific modules or just the regular ones for the power folding that he uses (will they work with the blind spot indicators)
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Originally Posted by Dan_2040
Do you have the blind spot function with indicator on the mirrors? I know this guy's tutorials. But what I want is to preserve my blind spot indicators and have power folding at the same time. For which I am trying to understand do I need a specific modules or just the regular ones for the power folding that he uses (will they work with the blind spot indicators)
Yes - all functions work as usual.

Blind spot and heated mirror functions operate the same as before the retrofit.

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I have also seen aftermarket blind sport system for the W212s in various sites . However, I have no idea whether or not those are as much reliable as Mercedes Benz's stock systems at all.

Power folding mirrors are cool ,once you are used to them you always want them in other cars, it's the way it works for me anyway
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Originally Posted by retna7
Yes - all functions work as usual.

Blind spot and heated mirror functions operate the same as before the retrofit.
Did you actually had to swap the modules in the doors? If so did you use the same ones he was using in the video?
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A 212 900 43 14


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Originally Posted by Dan_2040
Did you actually had to swap the modules in the doors? If so did you use the same ones he was using in the video?
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i have done folding mirrors on a 2013 US 350, but I have read several times that folding mirrors won’t work with 2009-2010 (early) 212 door modules. I don’t know if this is a hardware or firmware limitation. AFAIK, BTW, no US W212 before 2014 actually came factory equipped with these folding mirrors.

i plan, eventually, to do good aftermarket blind spot sensing. However, I found that finding aftermarket (i.e., affordable) heated, LH photochromic mirror glass with a socket for the OEM blind spot LED for it is impossible. So I bought generic “dotted line” curved, heated Euro mirrors that did support blind spot. What I will do for lighting the arrows is up in the air.

My experience is documented here with Chinese folding mirrors. Overall, I found them to be a good price performance value, although their included wiring harness did NOT support OEM blind spot, but DID support heat and dimming (the glass with the Chinese mirrors were generic heated Euro curved).

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...tallation.html

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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
its quite possible, even likely, that multiple modules need coding for any given feature, and if those codings aren't all matched, odd things happen.
In my 2012 S550 there is selection in the cluster menu for using the auto-fold at locking the car or not. For that for sure a coding change is needed and thus probably is the same with the E-class.

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