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The variety of trims available always amaze me. My E400 is the Avantgarde line but has exhaust tips and center start on the grille on its "luxury" stile bumpers. Looking at my VIN is has the option B16 "EXHAUST TIP" and 4U4 "RADIATOR GRILLE WITH CENTER STAR" included which is probably why they are there.
@w212_E400s if you want I can get the parts list from my rear bumper and exhaust tips. I suspect only the botton trim is different.
MB is all about options, I guess you can call that freedom : ) , nice vehicle by the way : ) classy.
True, the suspension is also different right, affecting ride quality?
Well, ride quality is arbitrary, the luxury is old school Benz, luxury first, for a long highway ride it floats wonderfully, handling is still great but way less firm and more body roll, my sport can walk away from it on medium to fast speed twisty roads,you can clearly drive it harder and faster.
Well, ride quality is arbitrary, the luxury is old school Benz, luxury first, for a long highway ride it floats wonderfully, handling is still great but way less firm and more body roll, my sport can walk away from it on medium to fast speed twisty roads,you can clearly drive it harder and faster.
If I recalled correctly (not sure if accurate), there are three types for the W212, Airmatic, standard steel and sporty steel with active dampers. Like I said, I am not fully sure if that was really the case plus if it was, it is different in different regions, I am in Canada for example.
Interesting, what suspension does it have? from the wheelwell gaps it looks like 485
You are on point sir. Confort suspension is the only one Mercedes offers in Brazil for the non-AMG models. A wise choice given the conditions of our roads to be honest.
You are on point sir. Confort suspension is the only one Mercedes offers in Brazil for the non-AMG models. A wise choice given the conditions of our roads to be honest.
I wish they offer it in all markets, unless they decided it is not popular enough to be worth offering it?
If I recalled correctly (not sure if accurate), there are three types for the W212, Airmatic, standard steel and sporty steel with active dampers. Like I said, I am not fully sure if that was really the case plus if it was, it is different in different regions, I am in Canada for example.
Actually there's a fourth, luxury with rough road suspension
I wish they offer it in all markets, unless they decided it is not popular enough to be worth offering it?
I reckon certification costs vs. market analysis probably plays a big role on what they decide to offer on each market. I mean, all radar functions in Brazil (such as distronic plus) were unavailable until not long ago due to certification issues with the local equivalent of FCC. I think you can really only customize everything if you are in Germany.
I reckon certification costs vs. market analysis probably plays a big role on what they decide to offer on each market. I mean, all radar functions in Brazil (such as distronic plus) were unavailable until not long ago due to certification issues with the local equivalent of FCC. I think you can really only customize everything if you are in Germany.
Actually there's a fourth, luxury with rough road suspension
Actually, the 212 Wagon has steel suspension up front & airmatic in rear which is self adjusting for cargo weight. Had it in my 2001 E320 Wagon & now on my 2011, last of the port injection 350s.
Actually there's a fourth, luxury with rough road suspension
Actually, the 212 E4Matic Wagon only comes with mixed suspension: Steel Springs up front & self-
leveling Airmatic in rear which adjusts the weight so Cargo bed remains level.
2016 E350 4Matic wagon, 2019 Ford Expedition, 2019 Chevy Bolt EV
Originally Posted by Jack McCarty
Actually, the 212 E4Matic Wagon only comes with mixed suspension: Steel Springs up front & self-
leveling Airmatic in rear which adjusts the weight so Cargo bed remains level.
that goes all the way back to the W123 wagons of the 1980s, except it was hydropneumatic rather than airmatic in back.
Actually, the 212 Wagon has steel suspension up front & airmatic in rear which is self adjusting for cargo weight. Had it in my 2001 E320 Wagon & now on my 2011, last of the port injection 350s.
Yes, that was the first one listed in the original post I believe
Yes, confirming oval exhaust tips on my E350 Wagon (2011), which was the last port injection
3.5 V6. Motors were converted to DI (Direct Injection) in 2012 with carbon soot build-up issues.
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Yes, confirming oval exhaust tips on my E350 Wagon (2011), which was the last port injection
3.5 V6. Motors were converted to DI (Direct Injection) in 2012 with carbon soot build-up issues.
Glad to know the carbon build-up isn't just me, and it's not a sign of excessive blowby or something...
I'm going to experiment with cleaning that crap off this weekend...
W212 M276 DELA 30 ; W211 M113k, W126 M117, W126 OM617, W211 OM642 ; R107 M117 X2, Sierra 1500 LZ0
Originally Posted by ChuangTzu
Glad to know the carbon build-up isn't just me, and it's not a sign of excessive blowby or something...
I'm going to experiment with cleaning that crap off this weekend...
The M276 isn't nearly as bad in terms of DI engines for carbon buildup compared to some of the BMW and VAG engines (and Hyundai/Kia, but who cares about those).
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