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Does anyone know what the rear camber settings should be on our car ?. I was told there is no camber adjustment for the rear tires . Is there a degree of camber we should be looking for i.e.-1.4 or something else ? . we bought new tires from VIP and they did an alignment and said the left rear is out -2.0 degrees right is supposedly good at -1.4 degrees ? are all alignment machines the same ? I assume there is a setting that is specifically for MB. we don't want to ruin the new tires !!
Thanks in advance for any help !!!
Does anyone know what the rear camber settings should be on our car ?. I was told there is no camber adjustment for the rear tires . Is there a degree of camber we should be looking for i.e.-1.4 or something else ? . we bought new tires from VIP and they did an alignment and said the left rear is out -2.0 degrees right is supposedly good at -1.4 degrees ? are all alignment machines the same ? I assume there is a setting that is specifically for MB. we don't want to ruin the new tires !!
Thanks in advance for any help !!!
the rear camber is non-adjustable with the factory setup.
Rear steel suspension goes out of specs when the weak coil springs stay lower after years of being loaded.
New springs with color stripes matching your chassis are the factory way to go back to spec.
Other ways available to keep the old springs.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Apr 1, 2025 at 04:06 PM.
Yes, new coil springs in back matching the color or colors painted on them will bring the rear back to spec, 12 years and the old ones are sagging by an Inch I'd bet, mine were.be sure to get the top and bottom mounting plates also, my bottoms were almost rusted to nothing, tops were worn but ok, i replaced them anyway as I could not get them to turn.
Last edited by pierrejoliat; Apr 1, 2025 at 03:39 PM.
Yes, new coil springs in back matching the color or colors painted on them will bring the rear back to spec, 12 years and the old ones are sagging by an Inch I'd bet, mine were.be sure to get the top and bottom mounting plates also, my bottoms were almost rusted to nothing, tops were worn but ok, i replaced them anyway as I could not get them to turn.
I've learned the "color stripes" from you... earlier I saw them but didn't know what they were about...
OR a cheaper way is search for CAMBER ADJUSTMENT kits.
they are out on the internet and com in 2 varieties.
Adjustable upper or lower arm
Adjustable Bushings.
I did this to my car and way better because I can have it checked and adjusted like cars of yesteryear.
It is a big thing as you will find these kits for all sorts of makes and model cars.
I attached a copy of my alignment specs so you can see the min/max values. I had my alignment done at Evans tire last year but I'll have to take it to the dealer or somewhere more reputable because I just noticed they used the specs from a 4Matic and mine is RWD. Just something to consider. I mentioned that my car was pulling to the right and all they did was move the left front toe from 0.20 to 0.05. (less toe in). My front left camber is still off at 1.0 and it should be slightly negative between -0.8 to -0.1 degrees which explains why my car drives straighter but now also feels squirly at highway speeds. I'm going to have get a camber kit and take it to another shop. Hope this helps for reference. Alignment Report from Evans Tire
Last edited by chazmuska; Apr 2, 2025 at 08:59 PM.
OR a cheaper way is search for CAMBER ADJUSTMENT kits.
they are out on the internet and com in 2 varieties.
Adjustable upper or lower arm
Adjustable Bushings.
I did this to my car and way better because I can have it checked and adjusted like cars of yesteryear.
It is a big thing as you will find these kits for all sorts of makes and model cars.
Good Luck
Two new OEM springs, two top mounts and two bottom mounts cost me 200 dollars delivered, they took 6 hours to change, my younger self or a younger man could do the entire swpp in 3 hours, this dramatically changed the alignment specs and stopped the inner edge wear on the rear tires
If yours is a real 677 suspension, below is the proper alignment data. See the green tick.
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Me also will replace the rear springs, have got all the parts just arrived a wek ago.
Ur measurement unit is Degree 1/100, mine is Degree & Minutes.
Do the conversion.
Example, your rear LEFT camber is -1.8*
MB wants it 1* 27' +- 30' which means 1.45* +- 0.5* , in other words 0.95* to 1.95* is still OK. surely if at 1.45* is nice.
Get your datacard for your VIN. Your suspension code is there.
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Your front LEFT CAMBER is too much.
A 677 suspension is to be 0* 33' +- 21'
Meaning 0.55* +- 0.35* or 0.2* to 0.9* is allowed. Your LEFT FRONT CAMBER is at 1.0* already.
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Last edited by S-Prihadi; Apr 2, 2025 at 11:03 PM.
Yes today’s models the often quoted reassuring “Will carry out a full Front & Rear ‘4’ Wheel Alignment” - is in fact now only basic TOE “directional” adjustment. Even AMG performance models !
All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
Now Front Camber and Caster along with Rear Camber is one setting - to suit showroom height conditions.
No longer able to adjust tire contact angles, spread load more evenly to resolve costly, premature excess edge tire wear.
Onus now back on owners to fund premature tire replacement.
Day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads with excess passenger side edge wear. Or excess inner edge wear both sides through load carrying or altered height. Spirited driving and excess outer edge wear. Along with now no adjustment to resolve curb knock damage.
At K-MAC we saw the need therefore to re-instate adjustment. Designing BOLT-ON Front and Rear kits that require no special tools or need to remove control arms to install !
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(Above kits less cost than 1 Quality tire).
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CAMBER (& EXTRA TOE) #502126K $480 (Both Sides).
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If yours is a real 677 suspension, below is the proper alignment data. See the green tick.
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Me also will replace the rear springs, have got all the parts just arrived a wek ago.
Ur measurement unit is Degree 1/100, mine is Degree & Minutes.
Do the conversion.
Example, your rear LEFT camber is -1.8*
MB wants it 1* 27' +- 30' which means 1.45* +- 0.5* , in other words 0.95* to 1.95* is still OK. surely if at 1.45* is nice.
Get your datacard for your VIN. Your suspension code is there.
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Your front LEFT CAMBER is too much.
A 677 suspension is to be 0* 33' +- 21'
Meaning 0.55* +- 0.35* or 0.2* to 0.9* is allowed. Your LEFT FRONT CAMBER is at 1.0* already.
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Yes Surya, and all of it changes with the new springs installed in back, my rear came back into spec and my front needed realignment from the change in rear ride height, It did take them 2-3 weeks to settle in so aligning it right away is not recomended unless it's so far out tire wear would occur in just a few miles, then it should be done twice.My front changed in that two weeks
Yes Pierre, I remembered you told me late last year to wait out some weeks before going for alignment when new rear springs intalled.
I would drive it around, perhaps 500KM too.
The top rubber bushing of the spring is the one which took MB Indonesia 3 months to arrive...crazy !!!!
HOw Many miles are on your car where you have to replace the springs just to get it aligned properly?
My camber has been whacky since I got the car with 180 miles on it.
First set of rears only lasted about 10,000 miles due to inner tire wearing away to cords.
I could see sprins on a car with well over 100k miles but not one that basically drove off showroom floor.
My bet is MB invested in the tire manufacturers it has MO tires with.
HOw Many miles are on your car where you have to replace the springs just to get it aligned properly?
My camber has been whacky since I got the car with 180 miles on it.
First set of rears only lasted about 10,000 miles due to inner tire wearing away to cords.
I could see sprins on a car with well over 100k miles but not one that basically drove off showroom floor.
My bet is MB invested in the tire manufacturers it has MO tires with.
Interesting, I replaced my rear springs at 101k miles, I drive that car back and forth to AZ yearly so 4200 miles round trip for 11 years now, it's critical to follow the tire pressure chart when loading the trunk, 42 psi is imperative to maintain ride geometry with a full trunk load. On the way home this last year, i was crossing a bridge at 95 MPH and I heard the springs crack, two big bangs, I assume after 12 years they were pretty rusty.
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Copy of my Alignment specs
