Is the new E-Class selling well?
Last edited by c4004matic; Jan 7, 2017 at 12:32 AM.

Never heard a mosquito buzzing. What does that sound like....ok...you think a 4 cylinder E300.

The E300 is an improvement over my 2010 and/or 2014 E350 (both great cars) in nearly every regard, including engine performance, but excluding engine/exhaust sound, which wasn't even a factor.





The E300 is an improvement over my 2010 and/or 2014 E350 (both great cars) in nearly every regard, including engine performance, but excluding engine/exhaust sound, which wasn't even a factor.
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Regarding Fletcher Jones, years ago, I made the mistake of giving one of their clowns my phone number. It was a nightmare, with never ending calls from them. Whenever I walk their lot, just to look at the cars, I always feel as though I need a shower and maybe a shot of penicillin afterwards. I hate FJ, will never buy there and highly recommend MB of Foothill Ranch.
I will reserve judgment on the rest of the E until I can experience it.. I sure hope it is better than the W205, though. The interior design in the 205 is nice, but upon close inspection there are quite a bit of materials that are, shall we say, suspect.
I will reserve judgment on the rest of the E until I can experience it.. I sure hope it is better than the W205, though. The interior design in the 205 is nice, but upon close inspection there are quite a bit of materials that are, shall we say, suspect.
Anyway, read here about Mercedes sales. They are doing just fine.
https://mbworld.org/articles/mercedes
Anyway, read here about Mercedes sales. They are doing just fine.
https://mbworld.org/articles/mercedes
Anyway, read here about Mercedes sales. They are doing just fine.
https://mbworld.org/articles/mercedes
The E43 not only gets all the AMG banners badge ****** want it also gets a very big boost in performance compared to the 300 model, not to mention, a nice boost in profit for MB given that its almost 20K extra when optioned similarly. I don't think MB gives an iota about "diluting" the AMG name given that AMG is probably a money pit anyway if they can use it to make good money on their regular menu. Its smart marketing. Furthermore, this also helps AMG's bottom line since they can increase the profit from their operations thus assuring they have a steady flow of cash for their truly unique products.
My issue isn't with a 4 cylinder engine. It is with the lack of power especially at highway speeds. The additional 90 horsepower of the 3 liter engine is desperately needed.
I test drove a '17 BMW 540i yesterday. It's a great car but lacks the refined interior of the E300.
Last edited by dieseldoc; Jan 20, 2017 at 12:27 PM.
My issue isn't with a 4 cylinder engine. It is with the lack of power especially at highway speeds. The additional 90 horsepower of the 3 liter engine is desperately needed.
I test drove a '17 BMW 540i yesterday. It's a great car but lacks the refined interior of the E300.
I drove the E 300 at well over legal speeds and the car accelerates more than adroitly to well over 100mph. If a comparison is needed, it is as fast as an accord V6, a car virtually everyone considers more than amply powered. Furthermore, the turbo 4 sounds more refined than a Honda 3.5 anywhere in its range (in part due to synthetic sound), I'd call that a pretty good performance from any four banger. The fact is the only way to tell the engine is a four at all is to count the spark plug wires! This engine is way more powerful, refined and better sounding than most v8s from the 70's!!! The whole rigmarole about the base engine being a 4 cylinder is dumb, every one uses a 4 as the base engine for their midsize sedans, in fact, for every German midsize sedan the four always outsells the 6 by a very large margin. If anything, Mercedes is very late to the 4 banger turbo midsize party though it came well dressed.
. So I suspect the 4 cylinder would be fine for these folks as well. In case if you crave for some excitement, there's always the 43s and 63s, primed and ready to serve. I think MB has always been sold as an executive sedan, aiming at providing comfortable but competent transportation for the well heeled rather than competing in the performance arena.With that said, the E300 really sounds raucous at cold starts, specially if you stand near the back end of the car. My MB shop foreman acknowledged this and said the sound would improve as the engine gets warmed up. This is true to some degree. From inside of the car, this is a non issue. The NVH isolation, the sound system, and the toss-able nature of the car serve up a calm and confident ride while push everything else to the background. For the general population, these are the qualities we search for. For enthusiasts, you'll have to pay to play.
One area that the E300 can certainly be improved is the electronics. My car has been in the shop for 6 times in the past 6 months. Of the 4 E300 loaners provided to me, 2 had their Check Engine or other warnings lit up while I was driving them. One of the loaner also developed a rattle on the dash area accompanied by display glitches. The latest incident occured yesterday. While I enjoy the E300 very much, its lack of reliability in little things and the COMAND system begins to worry me.
When use as daily driver in the typical urban settings, the E300 has no problem in strolling along, passing slower traffics in 70MPH to 80MPH range, becoming an extension of your thought and just squirting through traffic holes as you see them. My wife drives between 3 to 4 job sites a day, so fuel economy is an important factor to us. The base engine provides a perfect balance of adequate power, refinement, and economy in our case. The MB drivers I see on the road around here seem to prefer the right lanes rather than the left ones
. So I suspect the 4 cylinder would be fine for these folks as well. In case if you crave for some excitement, there's always the 43s and 63s, primed and ready to serve. I think MB has always been sold as an executive sedan, aiming at providing comfortable but competent transportation for the well heeled rather than competing in the performance arena.With that said, the E300 really sounds raucous at cold starts, specially if you stand near the back end of the car. My MB shop foreman acknowledged this and said the sound would improve as the engine gets warmed up. This is true to some degree. From inside of the car, this is a non issue. The NVH isolation, the sound system, and the toss-able nature of the car serve up a calm and confident ride while push everything else to the background. For the general population, these are the qualities we search for. For enthusiasts, you'll have to pay to play.
One area that the E300 can certainly be improved is the electronics. My car has been in the shop for 6 times in the past 6 months. Of the 4 E300 loaners provided to me, 2 had their Check Engine or other warnings lit up while I was driving them. One of the loaner also developed a rattle on the dash area accompanied by display glitches. The latest incident occured yesterday. While I enjoy the E300 very much, its lack of reliability in little things and the COMAND system begins to worry me.
My C400 has had only 2 unintended trips to the dealer. I too have suffered multiple electronic glitches one of which was that the radio quit. The 2 unscheduled ones were for airmatic troubles (in one visit both airmatic and the radio were kaput). When airmatic has any "faults" it defaults to sport+ setting giving you a very brittle ride. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you any messages only "keister" warning.





