The little "E" Class that couldn't!
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From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
I'll still drive the E400. This is for my wife instead of her BMW 535i. If she doesn't like it, she'll have to wait a couple of years for a better model to arrive.
I've got plenty of time. My family folks are very long lived at 100+ while I'm in my early 70's. That's the new 50's.
I've got plenty of time. My family folks are very long lived at 100+ while I'm in my early 70's. That's the new 50's.
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2015 E550 Coupe
I finally bit the bullet and ordered a 2018 E300 as a grocery getter. I'm keeping my E400 for highway use until I see how capable the E300 actually is for my style of driving.
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Soon: 2017 E300 4Matic
I have a little tyke in the way, so although I would like a little more juice out of the E300, it's probably best that I start slowing it down a bit and taking my time. If it was just me to worry about, bring on the 43/63. I'm coming from a Hemi Jeep GC and scoffed at the i4, but after driving it, it's more than capable.
This will be my first MB, I'm not quite at the point for a S-Class, but really appreciated the tech and safety feature of the new E-Class. Can't wait for delivery!
This will be my first MB, I'm not quite at the point for a S-Class, but really appreciated the tech and safety feature of the new E-Class. Can't wait for delivery!
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17 E43; 21 GLS580
I have a little tyke in the way, so although I would like a little more juice out of the E300, it's probably best that I start slowing it down a bit and taking my time. If it was just me to worry about, bring on the 43/63. I'm coming from a Hemi Jeep GC and scoffed at the i4, but after driving it, it's more than capable.
This will be my first MB, I'm not quite at the point for a S-Class, but really appreciated the tech and safety feature of the new E-Class. Can't wait for delivery!
This will be my first MB, I'm not quite at the point for a S-Class, but really appreciated the tech and safety feature of the new E-Class. Can't wait for delivery!
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2015 ML350+2025 E350
Don't see anything yet on their web site (it's double N, RENNtech, by the way), but they may have some 2.0 help in the works.
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/
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17 E43; 21 GLS580
Don't see anything yet on their web site (it's double N, RENNtech, by the way), but they may have some 2.0 help in the works.
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/
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2015 gl450
I finally bit the bullet and ordered a 2018 E300 as a grocery getter.
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E300 P03
- I was still savoring the drive during the home stretch. In some cars, it was a chore driving the last 100 miles. I had fun tossing and putting the E300 through its pace to the last minute.
- I was completely relaxed as I pulled into the garage after both trips. The only other car that managed to do the same is the GL450. Granted, they both have heated and massaging seats.
- The E300's chassis is something to be reckon with. It feels lighter and equally agile while out-sizing the E400. It's ready to dance whenever you're.
- The quiet interior, relaxed manner, capable handling, and unflappable character are qualities that one starts to appreciate after putting in enough seat times.
- I pushed the E300 pretty hard and the car just shrugged them off with no drama at all.
- I'd replace the run flat tires if the 6 cylinder is in the picture. Due to the bad roads around here, I'm content with the 4 bangers - Beside, it's the perfect engine for a daily driver.
- Leaving the engine topic aside, the E300 is the better car in many aspects. It's a worthy upgrade and would serve as a great car for the vast majority of MB owners.
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I finally bit the bullet and ordered a 2018 E300 as a grocery getter. I'm keeping my E400 for highway use until I see how capable the E300 actually is for my style of driving.
just in case somebody missed it the first time you wrote it?
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E300
E300 4Matic
This topic has been beaten to death but here are my 2 cents.
Like everyone else I was like 4 Cyl Turbo. Meh.
I have had my E300 4Matic for just over 3 months. I find it has plenty of power plus getting 33-34 mpg on road trips of all sorts. Climbing mountain roads is a non issue. Highway passing etc etc.
The deciding factor for me was comparing my previous ride - Lexus ES350 to the E300.
Here is where the magic happens. Also note the E300 has slightly larger dimensions.
Lexus ES30 - 3.5L V6
268 hp
Torque 248 @ 4,700 rpm
0-60 = 7.1 sec
E300 - 2.0L 4 Turbo
241 hp
Torque 273 @ 1,300 rpm
0-60 = 6.2 sec
Go out and rev your car engine to 4,700 rpm and then drop it down to 1,300 rpm. Huge difference on how hard the engine is working for the amount of torque returned.
Im not an expert and again this is just my opinion....
Like everyone else I was like 4 Cyl Turbo. Meh.
I have had my E300 4Matic for just over 3 months. I find it has plenty of power plus getting 33-34 mpg on road trips of all sorts. Climbing mountain roads is a non issue. Highway passing etc etc.
The deciding factor for me was comparing my previous ride - Lexus ES350 to the E300.
Here is where the magic happens. Also note the E300 has slightly larger dimensions.
Lexus ES30 - 3.5L V6
268 hp
Torque 248 @ 4,700 rpm
0-60 = 7.1 sec
E300 - 2.0L 4 Turbo
241 hp
Torque 273 @ 1,300 rpm
0-60 = 6.2 sec
Go out and rev your car engine to 4,700 rpm and then drop it down to 1,300 rpm. Huge difference on how hard the engine is working for the amount of torque returned.
Im not an expert and again this is just my opinion....
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This topic has been beaten to death but here are my 2 cents.
Like everyone else I was like 4 Cyl Turbo. Meh.
I have had my E300 4Matic for just over 3 months. I find it has plenty of power plus getting 33-34 mpg on road trips of all sorts. Climbing mountain roads is a non issue. Highway passing etc etc.
The deciding factor for me was comparing my previous ride - Lexus ES350 to the E300.
Here is where the magic happens. Also note the E300 has slightly larger dimensions.
Lexus ES30 - 3.5L V6
268 hp
Torque 248 @ 4,700 rpm
0-60 = 7.1 sec
E300 - 2.0L 4 Turbo
241 hp
Torque 273 @ 1,300 rpm
0-60 = 6.2 sec
Go out and rev your car engine to 4,700 rpm and then drop it down to 1,300 rpm. Huge difference on how hard the engine is working for the amount of torque returned.
Im not an expert and again this is just my opinion....
Like everyone else I was like 4 Cyl Turbo. Meh.
I have had my E300 4Matic for just over 3 months. I find it has plenty of power plus getting 33-34 mpg on road trips of all sorts. Climbing mountain roads is a non issue. Highway passing etc etc.
The deciding factor for me was comparing my previous ride - Lexus ES350 to the E300.
Here is where the magic happens. Also note the E300 has slightly larger dimensions.
Lexus ES30 - 3.5L V6
268 hp
Torque 248 @ 4,700 rpm
0-60 = 7.1 sec
E300 - 2.0L 4 Turbo
241 hp
Torque 273 @ 1,300 rpm
0-60 = 6.2 sec
Go out and rev your car engine to 4,700 rpm and then drop it down to 1,300 rpm. Huge difference on how hard the engine is working for the amount of torque returned.
Im not an expert and again this is just my opinion....
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E300
It might be a little low on power compared to some of the competition byt the GS not to even mention the ES are no competition in any other parameter. The GS is one of the lamest driving cars I have ever driven. Its handily outclassed by a C class. I drove a C and a GS back to back and it was no contest. The ES is a lightly disguised Camry, period. The LS is so old its basically a dinosaur. Acura is basically a single model brand (MDX) and I dont know how Infinity is still around. I dont know whats wrong with the Japanese luxury brands, they used to be viable alternatives now they are just awful.
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From: New Jersey
2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
Not sure why one would compare a Lexus es350 to a Mercedes e class, much different price points. I have a 2011 rx350 and often get an es as a loaner, not a terrible value proposition for the money, comfortable and nice upscale interior. Just think how much nicer the e would be with a nice 340hp turbo v6. Most 4's still feel like windup toys to me, albeit nice toys. It is what it is. Mercedes really doesn't give us the more basic v6 choice. Regards. Ned.
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E300
Ok for argument sake let's compare the GS 350 F Sport AWD. 3.5L V6 311 HP. Still only looking at 0-60 in 5.8 sec. Very little difference.
My point here is the 4 cyl turbo in the E300 is performing just a tiny bit under its V6 competitors. That includes it's predecessor the E350. The new E300 is a mere few tenths of a second slower. So my advice is don't dismiss the E300 with out driving it...
If drivers want a E Class V6 turbo you can get one. In the AMG E43. But that changes the price point.
My point here is the 4 cyl turbo in the E300 is performing just a tiny bit under its V6 competitors. That includes it's predecessor the E350. The new E300 is a mere few tenths of a second slower. So my advice is don't dismiss the E300 with out driving it...
If drivers want a E Class V6 turbo you can get one. In the AMG E43. But that changes the price point.
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2016 Audi S8 Plus/ 2011 Mercedes e550 4Matic//Gone:1985 500SEL/2000 e320 4Matic/ 2001 e55 Kleeman
Ok for argument sake let's compare the GS 350 F Sport AWD. 3.5L V6 311 HP. Still only looking at 0-60 in 5.8 sec. Very little difference.
My point here is the 4 cyl turbo in the E300 is performing just a tiny bit under its V6 competitors. That includes it's predecessor the E350. The new E300 is a mere few tenths of a second slower. So my advice is don't dismiss the E300 with out driving it...
If drivers want a E Class V6 turbo you can get one. In the AMG E43. But that changes the price point.
My point here is the 4 cyl turbo in the E300 is performing just a tiny bit under its V6 competitors. That includes it's predecessor the E350. The new E300 is a mere few tenths of a second slower. So my advice is don't dismiss the E300 with out driving it...
If drivers want a E Class V6 turbo you can get one. In the AMG E43. But that changes the price point.
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E300
