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Old 12-05-2017, 03:51 PM
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Resolution to iPhone 8/X Wireless Charging & Apple Pay (US/Canada)

Hi Everyone,

Making a new thread so this is visible. I found how to eliminate the issue with Apple Pay while still using the wireless charging and being able to use Apple Pay elsewhere.

The solution is to go into your settings in Comand and turn off the NFC feature. Navigate to:
  1. System
  2. Connectivity
  3. Uncheck "NFC Surface Area Active"
Once turned off, Apple Pay will not come up as the NFC system in the cupholder/cubby lid is deactivated. This is different as I understand it from the NFC feature for the smartphone key, which is embedded in the charging pad.
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Did you leave out a step? Can't find "connectivity" under "system" on my iPhone X.
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Did you leave out a step? Can't find "connectivity" under "system" on my iPhone X.
I think the instructions are to be performed on the Command system (in the car, not on the phone).
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Thanks for this. I wonder what the NFC chip in the E class does if it doesnt control the charging or that backup key slot
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I think the instructions are to be performed on the Command system (in the car, not on the phone).
Thanks — should have realized that from the ordinal post. However, I checked my 2018 E400 Coup and the "uncheck NFC surface area" is no longer included, or at least I can't find it anywhere in the Command/System menu.

Nonetheless, I have to wonder what other changes would result from unchecking that option. "NFC" stands for Near Filed Communication and, according to Tech Advisor, "has three modes of operation: the peer-to-peer mode that lets two smartphones swap data, a read/write mode in which one active device picks up info from a passive one, and card emulation, in which an NFC device such as a smartphone can be used like a contactless credit card." If the car's NFC is turned off, can the car still communicate with the phone to make calls, get contact info, etc. etc.?

I solved the problem in a different way — I disable Apple Pay on my iPhone X as I have no desire to use it, and have deleted all credit cards from the phone for security reasons.
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Functionality varies by market. NFC allows the use of a smartphone in lieu of the key fob. I believe that remote parking uses NFC but I'm not sure.
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i dont see that option either in that menu for 2017 US E300
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i dont see that option either in that menu for 2017 US E300
Good to know - I wasn’t sure if it was 2018 models only.
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I got the X yesterday and I noticed when I charge it wirelessly in my E, it does not activate Apple Pay. I did not set it up to begin with but it did not pop up with the Apple Pay set up stuff.
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Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. I noticed if you just quickly drop the phone in there and get your hands away, it will not activate apple pay. But if you do it slowly and hover your phone around the area too long, then it will
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The NFC transmitter in the US is in the cupholder compartment lid itself (there's a small NFC icon next to the latch) so it would often come up when you put your phone in if it got too close to the transmitter. You're able to turn it off in 2018 US models and then the problem doesn't come up.
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Getting my 1028 e class in 2 weeks, first think im going to do is shut this off!!! thanks for confirming, it was the most annoying thing in the world in the 2017 version.
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Originally Posted by zorz
Hi Everyone,

Making a new thread so this is visible. I found how to eliminate the issue with Apple Pay while still using the wireless charging and being able to use Apple Pay elsewhere.

The solution is to go into your settings in Comand and turn off the NFC feature. Navigate to:
  1. System
  2. Connectivity
  3. Uncheck "NFC Surface Area Active"
Once turned off, Apple Pay will not come up as the NFC system in the cupholder/cubby lid is deactivated. This is different as I understand it from the NFC feature for the smartphone key, which is embedded in the charging pad.
This worked for me. Thank you so much! It was becoming infuriating!
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This worked for me. Thank you so much! It was becoming infuriating!
I believe that in order to use car play you need a wired connection so the wireless charging is of little benefit?
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Originally Posted by V70cat
I believe that in order to use car play you need a wired connection so the wireless charging is of little benefit?
If the phone is on the wireless mat it also improves (boosts) signal quality through the cars antenna - even if it is not plugged in. So it does have some benefit?

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I believe that in order to use car play you need a wired connection so the wireless charging is of little benefit?
That's my understanding as well.
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Originally Posted by The_Judge
Thanks — should have realized that from the ordinal post. However, I checked my 2018 E400 Coup and the "uncheck NFC surface area" is no longer included, or at least I can't find it anywhere in the Command/System menu.

Nonetheless, I have to wonder what other changes would result from unchecking that option. "NFC" stands for Near Filed Communication and, according to Tech Advisor, "has three modes of operation: the peer-to-peer mode that lets two smartphones swap data, a read/write mode in which one active device picks up info from a passive one, and card emulation, in which an NFC device such as a smartphone can be used like a contactless credit card." If the car's NFC is turned off, can the car still communicate with the phone to make calls, get contact info, etc. etc.?

I solved the problem in a different way — I disable Apple Pay on my iPhone X as I have no desire to use it, and have deleted all credit cards from the phone for security reasons.
We have a 2018 E400 and the ability to turn off NFC via Command in Settings is indeed there. System > Connectivity > Tap NFC to turn it off.

It's exactly the same in my 2019 E450.

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