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What wheel and tire size is the spare? Do you have part numbers?
I found 213-400-06-00 as the part number for the euro spare. Does anyone know if this is correct and if you can fit it in the compartment under the trunk cover of the US cars?
There is nota purpose built space in the US models for a spare tire. It must compete with luggage space.
Here is the list of MB Part Numbers:
Compact spare: 213-400-06-00
Jack: 164-580-02-18
Ratcheting jack handle: 414-581-00-49
Lug wrench: 221-581-00-01
Container TireFit: 000-583-31-100
The jack parts can be generic from a local source.
Last edited by ua549; 05-24-2018 at 01:56 PM.
Reason: Added the NOT
There is purpose built space in the US models for a spare tire. It must compete with luggage space.
Here is the list of MB Part Numbers:
Compact spare: 213-400-06-00
Jack: 164-580-02-18
Ratcheting jack handle: 414-581-00-49
Lug wrench: 221-581-00-01
Container TireFit: 000-583-31-100
The jack parts can be generic from a local source.
The compact spare is $350 at this site (not much of a discount). When I click "Make sure this part fits your car", no E Class are listed, so buyer beware.
I got a full size spare with wheel (their cheapest) for about $250. That, an electric air pump and a plug kit, and I feel pretty secure. Not much trunk space left, though.
I did the same thing but I also bought the car jack otherwise how can you get the car in the air?
I did the same thing but I also bought the car jack otherwise how can you get the car in the air?
My car came with the jack, lug wrench, wheel chock, safety vest, and white gloves all neatly secured in an "A213 899 02 00 BUT of course no spare tire. There must be some logic in there somewhere.
My car came with the jack, lug wrench, wheel chock, safety vest, and white gloves all neatly secured in an "A213 899 02 00 BUT of course no spare tire. There must be some logic in there somewhere.
Mine came with no tools, no wheel chock, no safety vest and no white gloves. Oh, but it has RFT, I guess they realized yours made no logical sense and deleted all that stuff.
Does anyone know the tire and wheel dimensions for 213-400-06-00, and if this is a collapsable tire?
I just called my dealer re: the above spare for my 2017 E300 4Matic. He said that the part is unavailable anywhere. Not in Germany or the US. He told me I'd have to buy a full size spare tire and rim. Rim for $400 plus whatever the tire cost plus mounting, etc. I can get the tire from tirerack.com for about $120; it's 135-70R19. Finding the rim for the spare is another problem. Let me know if you find anything.
I just called my dealer re: the above spare for my 2017 E300 4Matic. He said that the part is unavailable anywhere. Not in Germany or the US. He told me I'd have to buy a full size spare tire and rim. Rim for $400 plus whatever the tire cost plus mounting, etc. I can get the tire from tirerack.com for about $120; it's 135-70R19. Finding the rim for the spare is another problem. Let me know if you find anything.
You do not need 19" space saver wheel/tire for E300 (or E400/E450). 18" space saver from W212 2012-16 E550/400 or C218 2012-2018 CLS550/400 (check eBay, junk yards or buy new from on-line discounters) will be just fine (all share the same sized 14.2" front rotors). For 18" space saver, you will need T135/80R18, $114 at TireRack. It will allow for a temporary space saver in case of emergency, while preserving still usable trunk space. I chose with full size 18" spare with full size tire from TireRack and it did cut trunk space significantly, but still manageable.
Edit: Exactly the wheel Marc Kaplan posted above (do not forget to change the tire).
Thanks but what about the rim? I called another dealer who said the spare was not available "yet" in Germany but he could order it, pay for it and it should be available within 30 days. Seems iffy to me. Any idea on rim? Thanks
Thanks but what about the rim? I called another dealer who said the spare was not available "yet" in Germany but he could order it, pay for it and it should be available within 30 days. Seems iffy to me. Any idea on rim? Thanks
My wife hit a pot hole and blew a tire. She drove home on it and took it to the dealer the next day. One hour later she had a new tire and was on her way. They are run flat tires. You can drive on them. What's all the fuss about???
My wife hit a pot hole and blew a tire. She drove home on it and took it to the dealer the next day. One hour later she had a new tire and was on her way. They are run flat tires. You can drive on them. What's all the fuss about???
Just that the RFTs ride a bit like the wheels on Fred Flintstone's car.
You are fortunate that the side wall wasn't ruptured and there was a dealer within driving distance - 19 miles (30 km) or 50 miles (80 km) depending on the vehicle loading. There are 4 or 5 MB dealers in my metro area yet one can still be beyond the allowable driving distance without leaving town. So much for urban sprawl. BTDT - I had to get transported on a flat bed truck to the nearest dealer with a replacement tire. (It was not the closest dealer). Tire shops do not stock run flat tires.
Those with US version W213 wagons, could the cross beam sheet metal be cut out of the spare tire wheel? Any pics of it in there? If it was done cleanly and touched up properly a non-leased wagon could be modified then.
Seems like you're explaining that MB just added this cross beam (formed sheet metal) to keep us from having a doughnut spare as my current W211 has under the third row seats. That being said, could the third row seats of the W213 wagon be removed and a doughnut spare fit in their then?
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I came across this thread, so I thought I would chime in.
Around 1998 or so, I was in my 1997 Lexus LS400, driving in fast, rush hour traffic, at night, on the infamous I405, going south through Long Beach. I was in the fast lane, probably doing 70 or so. My right front tire hit something that SHREDDED the Michelin. I never saw the object and still don’t know what I hit. I was able to get all the way over to the right shoulder and called AAA. However, before AAA came, a Metro tow truck pulled up behind me. The driver jacked up my car, put my full-size spare on, put my shredded tire and messed up alloy wheel in the trunk and I was home for dinner. Had that been a run flat tire, I would have gone for a ride in the tow truck, would have had to leave my car somewhere overnight, rent a car or taken a taxi home, had to deal with trying to find the correct tire AND WHEEL the next day, yada, yada, yada!
Now, let’s have this same thing happen on a family vacation to Yellowstone. Your car is towed to Earl’s Fillin’ Station, with you, the wife & kids trailing in a taxi—hopefully. Earl peers at the tire and says “I ain’t naer seen a tar like thissun. Guess I’ll have to call Omaha in the mornin and see if they can send one out double quick. Guess we’ll have to find a wheel, too.” So, you and your family will have to spend a night or THREE at the No-Tell Motel “down the road a piece.” Run flat tires 1. Family vacation ZERO.
I love MB cars, but not offering a spare, at least as an option, for owners in a huge country like the USA, is just plain STUPID, IDIOTIC and a sure sign of HEAD-UP-THEIR-*** syndrome. Driving without a spare outside of a large Metro area is like playing Russian Roulette with the safety of your family. I carry a compact spare that sits on TOP of the trunk floor in my S560 sedan.
If we are ever to see this problem cured, I suggest that EVERY time YOU interact with ANYONE from MB, be it a salesperson, service writer, MBUSA rep, you GIVE THEM AN EARFUL! It’s bad enough that they don’t give us a jack & spare, but to INTENTIONALLY remove the frigging PLACE to put one, should an owner wish to provide their own, is unconscionable! Honestly, whomever made the decision to eliminate the jack & spare in MB vehicles should LIKEWISE be ELIMINATED!
my early 2017 comes with a jack and tools but no spare, I never understood why it was included. but later built loaners I had never had the jack and tools. Very idiotic not to include a spare.
I came across this thread, so I thought I would chime in.
Around 1998 or so, I was in my 1997 Lexus LS400, driving in fast, rush hour traffic, at night, on the infamous I405, going south through Long Beach. I was in the fast lane, probably doing 70 or so. My right front tire hit something that SHREDDED the Michelin. I never saw the object and still don’t know what I hit. I was able to get all the way over to the right shoulder and called AAA. However, before AAA came, a Metro tow truck pulled up behind me. The driver jacked up my car, put my full-size spare on, put my shredded tire and messed up alloy wheel in the trunk and I was home for dinner. Had that been a run flat tire, I would have gone for a ride in the tow truck, would have had to leave my car somewhere overnight, rent a car or taken a taxi home, had to deal with trying to find the correct tire AND WHEEL the next day, yada, yada, yada!
Now, let’s have this same thing happen on a family vacation to Yellowstone. Your car is towed to Earl’s Fillin’ Station, with you, the wife & kids trailing in a taxi—hopefully. Earl peers at the tire and says “I ain’t naer seen a tar like thissun. Guess I’ll have to call Omaha in the mornin and see if they can send one out double quick. Guess we’ll have to find a wheel, too.” So, you and your family will have to spend a night or THREE at the No-Tell Motel “down the road a piece.” Run flat tires 1. Family vacation ZERO.
I love MB cars, but not offering a spare, at least as an option, for owners in a huge country like the USA, is just plain STUPID, IDIOTIC and a sure sign of HEAD-UP-THEIR-*** syndrome. Driving without a spare outside of a large Metro area is like playing Russian Roulette with the safety of your family. I carry a compact spare that sits on TOP of the trunk floor in my S560 sedan.
If we are ever to see this problem cured, I suggest that EVERY time YOU interact with ANYONE from MB, be it a salesperson, service writer, MBUSA rep, you GIVE THEM AN EARFUL! It’s bad enough that they don’t give us a jack & spare, but to INTENTIONALLY remove the frigging PLACE to put one, should an owner wish to provide their own, is unconscionable! Honestly, whomever made the decision to eliminate the jack & spare in MB vehicles should LIKEWISE be ELIMINATED!
Where did you get the spare. I am with you on this. I have a 2017 E Luxury model and absolutely hate the run flat tires. Whenever it’s time to replace a tire for any reason I am charging all to standard tires
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Originally Posted by kingscorpian27
Where did you get the spare. I am with you on this. I have a 2017 E Luxury model and absolutely hate the run flat tires. Whenever it’s time to replace a tire for any reason I am charging all to standard tires
The spare is from a W221 S Class Sedan and I bought it on eBay. I had the dealer mount it on both front & rear and it fits. I bought my jack & tool kit also on eBay, from a supplier in Germany. I run Bridgestone Serenity Plus conventional tires on 18” wheels and my S560 with MBC, rides better than any car I have driven or ridden in.
The spare is from a W221 S Class Sedan and I bought it on eBay. I had the dealer mount it on both front & rear and it fits. I bought my jack & tool kit also on eBay, from a supplier in Germany. I run Bridgestone Serenity Plus conventional tires on 18” wheels and my S560 with MBC, rides better than any car I have driven or ridden in.
Great, thank you. Those are the exact tires I have been researching. Costco sells them, now I need to confirm if they stock them. Costco opens 7 days per week and are located everywhere plus I will have a spare in my trunk. Do you have the German supplier information?
05-24-2018, 11:00 AM
