JTK44

Are you saying that the audible warning (beeping) when you park, is not part of the Driver Assistance Package? If it is not, is it part of the Parking Assistance Package. If neither, is it standard with the back up camera?

My prior BMW had both a back up camera and audible warning, which I liked very much.

My present 2016 E350 was an end of year stock model with the back up camera but without the audible warning system.

I really miss the audible warning system and definitely want that on my 2019 E450.

So to be clear, if I do not get the Parking Assistance Package, will I get the audible warning system?

Thanks.

JTK44

For laughs I just called Mercedes Benz of North America and asked the following question: "If I do not order the parking assist, as I back up will I get an audible warning?" The answer was "No". I pointed out that the vast majority of MB's imported into the United States do not have parking assist and was he sure that without this option there is no audible warning?

He responded that "that is correct"

This has changed my entire thinking about the E450: Honda, Toyota and Ford, have as standard equipment (no charge) the safety options that Mercedes charges thousands of dollars for!.

Forcing you to pay $1290 (the Parking Assist Package) to get audible warnings, something that has been standard on Honda Civic since 2016 is repulsive.

348SStb

JTK44

Really at a certain price point, not including audible sensors (what was previously called "Parktronic") in a $70,000 is ridiculous and outrageous.

I am replacing my wife's 2016 Ford Edge with a 2019 at basically the same price: The 2019 Edge has every safety feature as standard equipment - whereas in a Mercedes we are paying thousands extra for what is standard in almost every other car. At some point you have to say "enough is enough"!

ua549

Personally, I wish that I could turn off the warning sounds. The car seems to beep almost continuously even when simply driving down the street with traffic. The camera display when parking is more than enough.

JTK44

Sorry I disagree: audible sounds are very, very useful when parking on the street or in a garage. Except for my 2016 E350 all the cars I have owned for the past 5 years have had this feature.

Based on what you have posted, and as confirmed by MB of USA, to get audible warnings when parking you must get the Parking assist, a $1290 option, which option (audible warnings) is standard equipment in almost all other cars - from Honda to Toyota to Ford.

I guess this answers 348STTB question and I suspect he is not happy with the answer!

ua549

It must be an Asian car feature. Audible parking sounds are not in my BMW or VW.

JTK44

Yes Asian, United States, England and Sweden! Seems everyone but Germans!

While I have been driving German cars for nearly 40 years (Porsche, MD, BMW and Audi) this idea of charging for safety features really rubs me the wrong way: As per a prior post by 348SStb "It is a disgrace".

I fully understand charging crazy prices for designo leather, or $4,000 for a sound system, but safety should be the number one priority of every car manufacturer including the Germans. This should be double so for MB who slogan is "nothing but the best".

German cars, especially MB were once the leaders in safety, for example ABS. Now with a $65,000 plus car, safety costs extra????? What arrogance!!!

ua549

I don't think of parking sensors as a safety feature as much as a convenience feature to guard against marred paint. Bumpers are a parking safety feature.

Cao Black

Fascinating thread. Show of hands...how many would assume that a premium luxury car costing as much as my F250 pickup would include a backup camera AND audible proximity warning (which my pickup does). Come on Mercedes, stop being so,...well, German. The Ford even includes a nifty system for backing your trailer, so you don't have to keep reminding yourself to turn the steering wheel to the right to move the trailer to the left.

My ML has rear camera but no beeps. I much prefer the E300 with.

ua549

Keep in mind that the E Class is NOT a luxury vehicle in spite of its cost. It is a utilitarian taxi with a bit of lipstick. The S Class is the luxury line.

C = cheap
E = entry
S = superior

348SStb

jhpmbusa

My loaner came with it off, I had to raise the volume. My loaner is a 2018, is yours a 2017? If in fact it doesnt have the option?

rbrylaw

Glad you cleared that up for us poor people. Of course opinions are like A-Holes. Everyone has one. Thanks for sharing yours with us!

cetialpha5

I have the parktronic on the previous two platforms. The point then wasn't that they did the parking for you, the point is to know how close you are to the car in front/behind you. I've been able to squeeze into some pretty tight spots with the system without tapping bumpers. I have parking guidance on my 2011 which just tells you how to turn the steering wheel to park the car in a spot. Never used it. Basically it's for the front and rear sensors. Even if you don't parallel park in the city, it's handy sometimes in a regular spot so you can get closer to the front of the wall so the rear of your car doesn't stick out. I think some other manufacturers have a more limited package, some just have rear sensors, but not front or don't have that many sensors. My previous generation just had a bunch of lights and it sounds like it's still the same. As you get closer, the lights light up, when you're really close, there's two red lights, first one comes on then both and it will beep once the red lights come on, otherwise you can just keep inching forward/backward with no beeping, just look at the lights. What's interesting with them is that you should take your time as it's ultrasonic so it takes about a half second for them to register. There's a slight delay when people walk in front of my car in traffic and the parktronic lights will light up a half second after they pass.

samhua1

Hello 348SStb,

I just bought a used 2019 e450 4Matic, and it has the placeholders for the sensors on the front bumper, but it does not alarm me when I approach some object.
Unlike my old 2013 s550 with Parktronic, it was a great help not bumping into anything with the alert.

Does your e450 come with this feature? If not, is it possible to add it from the dealership afterward?

cetialpha5

What's the vin? It's very hard to retrofit things afterwards. There are aftermarket options, but they don't look as good as the sensors are usually not flush with the bumper and they're more crude as they're much cheaper.

samhua1

my VIN is: WDDZF6JB1KA530814.
I cannot find any information online whether the Parktronic feature can be added afterward.
Since the sensor placeholders exist on the bumper, and the model year is relatively new, I figure it should not be too hard to add the sensors and harness, and activate this feature with the onboard computer. But with Mercedes, who knows.
When I look at the Window Sticker, it shows the following features:
[234] Blind spot assist
[p01] Premium package: Inductive wireless charging w/ NFC pairing
[810] Burmester Surround Sound

cetialpha5

Yeah, you don't have it as an option. Not too many people have added it as an option afterwards.

https://www.lastvin.com/vin/8r74lEkvQlLdNRyvq

jhpmbusa

I believe you just need to turn on the sound? is your e class from the US? the beeping sound should have been a standard. not sure if you will be able to see it on your screen like a front camera, but at least it should beep? im pretty sure my 2018 e class had sensors that would beep all around as standard.

samhua1

Hello Cetialpha5,

Thanks for your help.
The reason for my ask is that this car is equipped with AMG Styling front spoiler, which is very low to the ground.
I have run over parking lot cement bars twice in 2 weeks, and each time, it rips out the front bumper.
I had to replace the splash shields (front and corner shields) under the front bumper.
This is very annoying. I need some sensors to tell me that I am close to some objects!

samhua1

Yes, it is a US vehicle. And it does not beep. On my old 2013 s550, when you approach an object, there is a "P" inside a blue square box shows up on the center of the dash, and it beeps with illuminated bars to indicate how close you are to the object. I believe that's the Parktronic feature.
I was looking for a similar feature in this 2019 e450.

jhpmbusa

i think the sound is turned off. do you get a sound for your rear bumper? do you see the colored bars at all whether front or back?

do you have a sedan? mine was 2018.

samhua1

Yes, It's a sedan. And I do not have any color bars on my dash. I have a backup camera.

jhpmbusa

hmmm i guess for 2019 they might have moved the option into a package... but yea very odd an E450 doesnt even have the rear bumper sensor as a standard option...