2019 AMG E53 Sedan Burmester
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2019 AMG E53 Sedan Burmester
I ordered in Mid-October and got a P.O. number with a production date of late December. Wondering if Burmester is standard? On the ordering guide there’s an option for the $5,400 upgrade, but no mention of the regular Burmester. My build sheet only lists code 517- HD radio. The system also wasn’t accurate as it listed the base price of $99,999. Dealer acknowledged that part but did not seem very knowledgeable or at least unwilling to spend time with me on standard equipment. Also mbusa website has not been updated to build the 53s.
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It is the low end for Burmester just as every brand including Rolls Royce has a low end. Everything Burmester builds is a cut above most entertainment systems.
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Do you know for fact it's Burmester's lowest end system? Either way, it doesn't matter. The system is way better than most cars ever get.
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Burmester only produces 2 audio systems for Mercedes-Benz and they have systems for Bugatti and Porsche along with component systems for home use. https://www.burmester.de/en/
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Some cars have Burmester as a small cost option which leads me to believe there is a non Burmester sound system in the lower end models, a small upgrade to standard Burmester, and then there is the 3D version for $5400. The AMG comes standard with Burmester (but not the 3D version).
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It's funny how people hear things so differently. I have a good buddy with an Audi A3. I think the sound system is adequate in it. but pales in comparison to my Burmester. My buddy thinks so as well and so his next car is going to be a Mercedes with a Burmester system. You seem to really like Audi better than Mercedes. Why don't you just buy an Audi and have what you seem to think is superior engineering and sound?
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Got my fingers crossed on this because I opted not to order the "3D" system. Honestly, I just found the price offensive. All my BMW and Lexus cars included excellent upgraded audio at far more reasonable cost. The Mark Levinson system in my wife's Lexus is stellar. It came bundled with the brilliant nav system for $3200. I'm willing -- even happy -- to pay MB for their superior ride, styling, handling, and comfort. But that 3D number stuck in my craw. It felt like price gouging on what is essentially a three-year rental. Heck, for that price I could probably hire a string quartet to ride with me. 
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
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I test drove a 2018 e400 with the regular Burmester as included with the premium 1 package. I think it’s a step up from stock in bmw and Bose in Porsche. In no way will I pay the $5400 for the high end upgrade though. I was concerned since the build sheet did not list it . I think the code is 810. The Germans would not go and in stock when the Burmester should be standard would they? I’ll call my dealer in December to get a status. I think people who do research know more than a lot of salesmen.
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Got my fingers crossed on this because I opted not to order the "3D" system. Honestly, I just found the price offensive. All my BMW and Lexus cars included excellent upgraded audio at far more reasonable cost. The Mark Levinson system in my wife's Lexus is stellar. It came bundled with the brilliant nav system for $3200. I'm willing -- even happy -- to pay MB for their superior ride, styling, handling, and comfort. But that 3D number stuck in my craw. It felt like price gouging on what is essentially a three-year rental. Heck, for that price I could probably hire a string quartet to ride with me.
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
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It's funny how people hear things so differently. I have a good buddy with an Audi A3. I think the sound system is adequate in it. but pales in comparison to my Burmester. My buddy thinks so as well and so his next car is going to be a Mercedes with a Burmester system. You seem to really like Audi better than Mercedes. Why don't you just buy an Audi and have what you seem to think is superior engineering and sound?
If I truly believed Audi made superior cars I'd have bought a new one by now. That said, I do not.
Something about a cake... Sigh.
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For $5400 the 3D system should be orgasmic. Most people don't put that much money into their home entertainment systems. I never worry much about what someone else's car has. I only care about what my car has and does and to me, I'll say it again, the standard Burmester is one fine car system.
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For $5400 the 3D system should be orgasmic. Most people don't put that much money into their home entertainment systems. I never worry much about what someone else's car has. I only care about what my car has and does and to me, I'll say it again, the standard Burmester is one fine car system.
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Got my fingers crossed on this because I opted not to order the "3D" system. Honestly, I just found the price offensive. All my BMW and Lexus cars included excellent upgraded audio at far more reasonable cost. The Mark Levinson system in my wife's Lexus is stellar. It came bundled with the brilliant nav system for $3200. I'm willing -- even happy -- to pay MB for their superior ride, styling, handling, and comfort. But that 3D number stuck in my craw. It felt like price gouging on what is essentially a three-year rental. Heck, for that price I could probably hire a string quartet to ride with me.
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
The coupe I test drove was equipped with the base Burmester system. I played around with it very briefly, wasn't impressed. Taking hope from multiple posts in these forums, however, I'm thinking I can adjust it so it at least sounds satisfactory if not wow.
As Double R notes, "It's funny how people hear things so differently." We'll see. Or hear, I guess.
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The ML system is truly fantastic. The base Burmester system is what is offensive to me. Seriously? A $80,000 car without a subwoofer? The most offensive part about the Burmester base system is the lack of true lows. Sucks I have to shell out $6100 here for a system that passes my sniff test, but oh well, to each their own.
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I believe that is correct in regards to FrontBass. The base Burmester system in my coupe sounds fantastic to my ears, coming from the Harmon/Kardon in my previous E. If one is super particular, there are options to augment the stock system and increase performance while maintaining stock components. Penguin, perhaps you should read some of the posts by Mike5215 as he has modified his previous 221 and 205 cars.
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I believe that is correct in regards to FrontBass. The base Burmester system in my coupe sounds fantastic to my ears, coming from the Harmon/Kardon in my previous E. If one is super particular, there are options to augment the stock system and increase performance while maintaining stock components. Penguin, perhaps you should read some of the posts by Mike5215 as he has modified his previous 221 and 205 cars.
Let me be really clear here in my opinions on this thread. I'm seriously thrilled that so many of you have a positive opinion of the Burmester base system. It's much lighter on your wallets and that is a good thing. I'm not trying to take away from any of you, I just wanted to share my opinion and what works for me, that's all.
I'm with you here @teksurv that the HK system is fantastic, and I don't think anyone has said on MBW that the HK Logic 7 system was lacking in any way. The Burmester base system is a little bit more divisive in opinion, that's all. For the record, I will say I am not BLOWN away by the Burmester 3D system. It sounds great. Is it worth $6100 CDN? Probably not, but is is a must have, for me? (yes, absolutely). And the only reason it's a must have, for me, is because the base Burmester system is lacking. Different strokes for different folks!
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The size of a woofer has absolutely nothing to do with the output of bass. It's how much air it can move that determines the amount of bass. I had a very high-end subwoofer once with two 6" drivers that produced astoundingly deep and articulate bass (as it should have for the high cost of the subwoofer). In fact, smaller woofers produce cleaner, more articulate bass than large woofers, which are capable of moving more air, but do so less accurately.
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The size of a woofer has absolutely nothing to do with the output of bass. It's how much air it can move that determines the amount of bass. I had a very high-end subwoofer once with two 6" drivers that produced astoundingly deep and articulate bass (as it should have for the high cost of the subwoofer). In fact, smaller woofers produce cleaner, more articulate bass than large woofers, which are capable of moving more air, but do so less accurately.
No need to defend a sound system IMHO.
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There are a number of factors to the quality of sound. I don't know why you are choosing to jump in on my opinion of things but my only statement that you quoted here is that there is no subwoofer on the base Burmester system. That's all.
No need to defend a sound system IMHO.
No need to defend a sound system IMHO.
