E300 vs E450 4MATIC sedans : deciding which one....
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E300 vs E450 4MATIC sedans : deciding which one....
Knowing this is probably a ridiculous question, I'll ask away..
Deciding between the E300 vs E450 sedans: other than price, horsepower, mpg, 0-60 numbers, etc is there anything else I should consider in deciding between these two?
I'm guessing the answer is "taking the $ difference out of the equation, get the 450."
Thanks for your insights!
Deciding between the E300 vs E450 sedans: other than price, horsepower, mpg, 0-60 numbers, etc is there anything else I should consider in deciding between these two?
I'm guessing the answer is "taking the $ difference out of the equation, get the 450."
Thanks for your insights!
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Drive them both and decide which you'd rather drive every day. While the E300 is certainly a nice car, we got one in August and traded it for the E450 in October. We're now an E400 and E450 household.
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2019 E 450, 2016 E350 4matic (retired), 2018 Ford Edge Sport, 2008 Porsche Boxster
When I drove the E 350 4 matic I found it "peppy but not powerful". I do not need the acceleration of the E450, but I really do like the smoothness of the V6 in the E 450 vs. the 4 in the E 300. Ratings of mpg are, believe it or not, quite similar. I also found outside the car, that the sound of the 4 was quite audible, even at idling, while the V6 is silent.
Before my 2016 E 350 4matic I owned two BMW 540i xDrive both with the straight 6's.. I tested both the 528/530i xDrive, BMW's version with the 4-cylinder engine. I found both somewhat underpowered.
I also lease so the monthly difference between the E 300 4matic and the E 450 4matic is not as dramatic as when you buy them.
Personally, I think for $65,000 and up, the V6 is the more appropriate engine for the mid-size E Class and fortunately I can afford the E 450.
One minor item: the E 300 comes with a 17 gallon tank, the E450 21 gallons. On a road trip, after a fill up, I love seeing the range at 600 miles plus!
I am taking delivery of my 2019 E 450 4matic end of this month.
My suggestion is to drive both and then make up your mind.
Before my 2016 E 350 4matic I owned two BMW 540i xDrive both with the straight 6's.. I tested both the 528/530i xDrive, BMW's version with the 4-cylinder engine. I found both somewhat underpowered.
I also lease so the monthly difference between the E 300 4matic and the E 450 4matic is not as dramatic as when you buy them.
Personally, I think for $65,000 and up, the V6 is the more appropriate engine for the mid-size E Class and fortunately I can afford the E 450.
One minor item: the E 300 comes with a 17 gallon tank, the E450 21 gallons. On a road trip, after a fill up, I love seeing the range at 600 miles plus!
I am taking delivery of my 2019 E 450 4matic end of this month.
My suggestion is to drive both and then make up your mind.
Last edited by JTK44; 12-07-2018 at 09:53 AM.
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Understanding it's a function of horsepower, you should consider your driving habits in town and on the freeway/highway. If most of your driving does not require swift acceleration (such as available with the Model S) then the E300 will do just fine. For me, living in SoCal, I prefer the option of swift acceleration given that we are congested at times and not all equal in driving skills
One other thing, and for me this was huge and swayed me towards a coupe, if you want RWD, in the sedan, only available (US) on the E300. V6 models require 4Matic, which is a shame for those of us who prefer RWD driving dynamics.
One other thing, and for me this was huge and swayed me towards a coupe, if you want RWD, in the sedan, only available (US) on the E300. V6 models require 4Matic, which is a shame for those of us who prefer RWD driving dynamics.
Last edited by teksurv; 12-07-2018 at 09:45 AM.
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Great suggestions/thoughts. I have now driven both the 300 and 450 and have decided to go for the 450. The 300 was 'peppy' but a little loud at times like it was struggling just a bit. I'm very, very close to placing my order....
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The E 300 has adequate performance but the 4 cylinder engine simply cannot offer the silent, smooth and effortless performance that is to be expected from a mid size luxury sedan.
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Hey mate, just want to get an update on your owner experience on your E 450 compare to your E 400, after owning both cars for a while.
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Understanding it's a function of horsepower, you should consider your driving habits in town and on the freeway/highway. If most of your driving does not require swift acceleration (such as available with the Model S) then the E300 will do just fine. For me, living in SoCal, I prefer the option of swift acceleration given that we are congested at times and not all equal in driving skills
One other thing, and for me this was huge and swayed me towards a coupe, if you want RWD, in the sedan, only available (US) on the E300. V6 models require 4Matic, which is a shame for those of us who prefer RWD driving dynamics.
One other thing, and for me this was huge and swayed me towards a coupe, if you want RWD, in the sedan, only available (US) on the E300. V6 models require 4Matic, which is a shame for those of us who prefer RWD driving dynamics.
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Twin Turbo V6 anyday over a teeny 4cy turbo.... what is real difference in Highway mpg?
car is too heavy for a 4cyl in my opinion as torq curve just not adequate to get off the line and to get any power she has to scream...
Wish the twin turbo V8 was still around int he E Class
car is too heavy for a 4cyl in my opinion as torq curve just not adequate to get off the line and to get any power she has to scream...
Wish the twin turbo V8 was still around int he E Class
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Twin Turbo V6 anyday over a teeny 4cy turbo.... what is real difference in Highway mpg?
car is too heavy for a 4cyl in my opinion as torq curve just not adequate to get off the line and to get any power she has to scream...
Wish the twin turbo V8 was still around int he E Class
car is too heavy for a 4cyl in my opinion as torq curve just not adequate to get off the line and to get any power she has to scream...
Wish the twin turbo V8 was still around int he E Class
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I'd say that there are a couple requirements. 1) anti body control 2) 19 inch wheels 3) get the 400
The E300 is remarkably responsive for a 4 CYL and is great for cruising around town, picking up lunch or some such thing. For freeway cruising, you may want something else, the 18 inch wheels and the slightly underpowered 300 makes for a ride that makes you wonder why you didn't just spend the money. (I'm currently in this situation with GLC and I keep kicking myself for going total miser on it )
I don't like body roll and the anti roll suspension makes a difference.
/2 cents - YMMW
The E300 is remarkably responsive for a 4 CYL and is great for cruising around town, picking up lunch or some such thing. For freeway cruising, you may want something else, the 18 inch wheels and the slightly underpowered 300 makes for a ride that makes you wonder why you didn't just spend the money. (I'm currently in this situation with GLC and I keep kicking myself for going total miser on it )
I don't like body roll and the anti roll suspension makes a difference.
/2 cents - YMMW
Knowing this is probably a ridiculous question, I'll ask away..
Deciding between the E300 vs E450 sedans: other than price, horsepower, mpg, 0-60 numbers, etc is there anything else I should consider in deciding between these two?
I'm guessing the answer is "taking the $ difference out of the equation, get the 450."
Thanks for your insights!
Deciding between the E300 vs E450 sedans: other than price, horsepower, mpg, 0-60 numbers, etc is there anything else I should consider in deciding between these two?
I'm guessing the answer is "taking the $ difference out of the equation, get the 450."
Thanks for your insights!
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I may be an outlier on this but I love the E300 engine. It has all the pep and power I need and delivers 25-35 mpg. Sure, it makes some noise but you have to be outside the car to hear it...very quiet on the inside. Admittedly, I’m not an aggressive driver but I’m impressed with the acceleration and handling. My other car is a new Porsche Boxster S and I don’t feel any letdown when driving rhe E300.
My main gripe is the idiotic navigation system which provides no way to see a list view of where it’s taking you. Last night, I got a message asking if I wanted to accept an alternative route which was 20 minutes faster. The problem-you can’t see exactly what the route is. You can try to determine this from the map, but it’s very difficult to see the specific roads. Whoever designed this needs to find another job. My $100 Tomtom does better.
My main gripe is the idiotic navigation system which provides no way to see a list view of where it’s taking you. Last night, I got a message asking if I wanted to accept an alternative route which was 20 minutes faster. The problem-you can’t see exactly what the route is. You can try to determine this from the map, but it’s very difficult to see the specific roads. Whoever designed this needs to find another job. My $100 Tomtom does better.
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I may be an outlier on this but I love the E300 engine. It has all the pep and power I need and delivers 25-35 mpg. Sure, it makes some noise but you have to be outside the car to hear it...very quiet on the inside. Admittedly, I’m not an aggressive driver but I’m impressed with the acceleration and handling. My other car is a new Porsche Boxster S and I don’t feel any letdown when driving rhe E300.
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I may be an outlier on this but I love the E300 engine. It has all the pep and power I need and delivers 25-35 mpg. Sure, it makes some noise but you have to be outside the car to hear it...very quiet on the inside. Admittedly, I’m not an aggressive driver but I’m impressed with the acceleration and handling. My other car is a new Porsche Boxster S and I don’t feel any letdown when driving rhe E300.
My main gripe is the idiotic navigation system which provides no way to see a list view of where it’s taking you. Last night, I got a message asking if I wanted to accept an alternative route which was 20 minutes faster. The problem-you can’t see exactly what the route is. You can try to determine this from the map, but it’s very difficult to see the specific roads. Whoever designed this needs to find another job. My $100 Tomtom does better.
My main gripe is the idiotic navigation system which provides no way to see a list view of where it’s taking you. Last night, I got a message asking if I wanted to accept an alternative route which was 20 minutes faster. The problem-you can’t see exactly what the route is. You can try to determine this from the map, but it’s very difficult to see the specific roads. Whoever designed this needs to find another job. My $100 Tomtom does better.