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Old Dec 6, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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W213 aftermarket wheels and bolts torque

What are people with aftermarket wheels torque their wheel bolts to? Manual states 111lb-ft, I assume because with W213 MB switched to 45mm bolts like for ML/GL/GLE/GLC/S/etc all of which were to be torqued to 110lb-ft. Previous Es, both W211 and W212, used 27/28mm factory bolts and were to be torqued to 96lb-ft.

Most aftermarket wheels are designed to be used with cone seat bolts with 28-30mm shank and in the past I always torqued such bolts on various MB sedans/coupes/roadsters/etc to 96lb-ft.

So what are people with aftermarket wheels on W213 use? 110? 100? 96?
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Old Dec 6, 2018 | 11:02 PM
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96. Hadn't heard that we're supposed to use 110. I'll be watching this thread with zest.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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96. Hadn't heard that we're supposed to use 110. I'll be watching this thread with zest.
Page 405 of the 2019 E sedan's manual clearly states 111 lb-ft. I know that about 110 lb-ft applies to stock wheels because of the hardware as explained in my original post. Question is for aftermarket wheels specifically. Usually aftermarket suppliers, like Tirerack, etc, default to specs, which would mean 110lb-ft or so, but it does not make sense to me, since torque should be hardware specific. Specifically, do we know that generic aftermarket bolts (Tirerack and most reputable suppliers use Bimecc made hardware) can handle that? Hence my question. I did not see many after market wheel threads for W213. W212 was/is loaded with wheels info.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 03:15 PM
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111 ft lbs or 111 nm?
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 03:22 PM
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I just check an online manual until I can check my own. It is as you state: 111 lbs ft.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 05:55 PM
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I'm wondering who has a torque wrench that is accurate enough to differentiate between 110 and 111 lt/lbs, let alone 94 vs 110. I have very expensive torque wrenches and would still never bother with that level of accuracy. If it was a connecting rod bolt, or something that critical then of course I would be as accurate as possible.

It's just funny hearing about lug nut torque when hardly anyone in here even changes their own wiper blades.

So tell me what you would do when you change a flat tire, do you carry a torque wrench around?
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 06:17 PM
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I generally buy Snap-on tools. I keep many of them in a fitted box in the trunk. That said, I have not used my Snap-on torque wrench more than twice a year. It has a ±2% accuracy provided the batteries are not weak.
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Originally Posted by West_Coaster
I'm wondering who has a torque wrench that is accurate enough to differentiate between 110 and 111 lt/lbs, let alone 94 vs 110. I have very expensive torque wrenches and would still never bother with that level of accuracy. If it was a connecting rod bolt, or something that critical then of course I would be as accurate as possible.

It's just funny hearing about lug nut torque when hardly anyone in here even changes their own wiper blades.

So tell me what you would do when you change a flat tire, do you carry a torque wrench around?
Yes I do (in each car) as well as full size spare in the trunk (do not care about trunk space).

I have several MBs, each with several wheel sets, hence the question. A more serious response participation is greatly appreciated. I generally do not respond if I have nothing to contribute.
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Has anyone been able to get any additional insight on the tq specs for after market wheels? Is it wheel manufacturer specific, or do you guys generally prefer using the stock mb recommended specs?
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