Poor MB Service Experience
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Poor MB Service Experience
Has anyone experienced poor service from Mercedes lately (as in the past couple of years?). When I first got my E300 I changed all the oils and filters religiously at the half way intervals on the entire car. Did my transmission oil and filter every 30,000 miles. Car currently has over 156,000 miles. At the 120,000 mile mark, i decided to bring my E Class to my local MB dealership as I did not have time to do the service my self as I was rushing to catch a plane to Germany. Trusting the "Best or Nothing" motto and the certified techs at my Connecticut MB dealership to carry out the service to a T, I brought it in for service.
Since the temperatures in New England (Connecticut Area) fluctuate really high and low in the summer time + winter time, I noticed the car shifting poorly about 2,000 miles ago. Ordered all OEM MB filters and oil. As soon as I lifted the car up and looked at the oil pan, I saw what looked like a half as*ed attempt to remove my paint marker writing of when the oil was last changed by me. Looked like the tech tried to remove the writing to make it seem like the oil pan/filter was changed. As soon as I removed the cap I immediately saw dark fluid that did not look like was changed for the past 30,000+ miles. Usually when I do the service at the 30,000 mile mark, the oil still has a blueish color to it. I mostly do highway driving and don't beat on the car too much, so it never had dark(er) oil before.
Inspecting the oil pan further I found the rear torx screw to be missing (the one in the rear where you have to lower the transmission mount to remove the screw), I found that the drain mechanism inside of the oil pan was tipped over and allowing the oil to drain out without putting the device into position 2 (or 4).
I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed knowing that the tech that took my car for service probably not only didn't change the oil, but probably quit after he tried to remove the rear screw and saw how difficult it is to drop the pan unless you drop the transmission an inch or two. The bolt he tried removing more than likely loosened after 60,000 miles and fell out. The tech might've loosened it enough to cause it to back out due to vibrations and heat, etc.
Torqued all bolts to spec as usual, put new fluid in, got the transmission to temp, and drove it 50 miles in the city to get the fluid circulating. The car once again shifts like new.
Moral of the story is: If you're willing to pay $700+ for service on your MB vehicle, double check their work and don't trust anyone but your self with your car.
Since the temperatures in New England (Connecticut Area) fluctuate really high and low in the summer time + winter time, I noticed the car shifting poorly about 2,000 miles ago. Ordered all OEM MB filters and oil. As soon as I lifted the car up and looked at the oil pan, I saw what looked like a half as*ed attempt to remove my paint marker writing of when the oil was last changed by me. Looked like the tech tried to remove the writing to make it seem like the oil pan/filter was changed. As soon as I removed the cap I immediately saw dark fluid that did not look like was changed for the past 30,000+ miles. Usually when I do the service at the 30,000 mile mark, the oil still has a blueish color to it. I mostly do highway driving and don't beat on the car too much, so it never had dark(er) oil before.
Inspecting the oil pan further I found the rear torx screw to be missing (the one in the rear where you have to lower the transmission mount to remove the screw), I found that the drain mechanism inside of the oil pan was tipped over and allowing the oil to drain out without putting the device into position 2 (or 4).
I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed knowing that the tech that took my car for service probably not only didn't change the oil, but probably quit after he tried to remove the rear screw and saw how difficult it is to drop the pan unless you drop the transmission an inch or two. The bolt he tried removing more than likely loosened after 60,000 miles and fell out. The tech might've loosened it enough to cause it to back out due to vibrations and heat, etc.
Torqued all bolts to spec as usual, put new fluid in, got the transmission to temp, and drove it 50 miles in the city to get the fluid circulating. The car once again shifts like new.
Moral of the story is: If you're willing to pay $700+ for service on your MB vehicle, double check their work and don't trust anyone but your self with your car.
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That fluid certainly doesn't look blue, at all. But doesn't the 9G tranny require MB 236.16 (or MD 236.17) fluid. Is that blue, as well?
Having reviewed the procedures for changing the tranny fluid in the 9G transmission, I certainly understand why most people would go to the dealer. Good advice to follow up on the work done. Makes you want to somehow paint across where the pan meets the housing to make sure it was removed.
Having reviewed the procedures for changing the tranny fluid in the 9G transmission, I certainly understand why most people would go to the dealer. Good advice to follow up on the work done. Makes you want to somehow paint across where the pan meets the housing to make sure it was removed.
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That fluid certainly doesn't look blue, at all. But doesn't the 9G tranny require MB 236.16 (or MD 236.17) fluid. Is that blue, as well?
Having reviewed the procedures for changing the tranny fluid in the 9G transmission, I certainly understand why most people would go to the dealer. Good advice to follow up on the work done. Makes you want to somehow paint across where the pan meets the housing to make sure it was removed.
Having reviewed the procedures for changing the tranny fluid in the 9G transmission, I certainly understand why most people would go to the dealer. Good advice to follow up on the work done. Makes you want to somehow paint across where the pan meets the housing to make sure it was removed.
I spoke to the dealer and told them my findings, they said they would cover my next transmission service for free after providing pictures and evidence. I told them thanks for the offer, I just wanted to let them know in case it happens to the next guy. Atleast they were willing to fix the situation.
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Makes me reluctant to go to the dealership for routine maintenance rather than doing it myself. I typically change my own oil in all my cars but plan on taking my 2025 to the dealer every 10K to have them change it in between my 5K oil changes so that it's recorded in the MB service records. Never thought about using a paint pen to mark the filter to ensure it's been changed. Will try that next time I change my oil.
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Makes me reluctant to go to the dealership for routine maintenance rather than doing it myself. I typically change my own oil in all my cars but plan on taking my 2025 to the dealer every 10K to have them change it in between my 5K oil changes so that it's recorded in the MB service records. Never thought about using a paint pen to mark the filter to ensure it's been changed. Will try that next time I change my oil.
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Makes me reluctant to go to the dealership for routine maintenance rather than doing it myself. I typically change my own oil in all my cars but plan on taking my 2025 to the dealer every 10K to have them change it in between my 5K oil changes so that it's recorded in the MB service records. Never thought about using a paint pen to mark the filter to ensure it's been changed. Will try that next time I change my oil.
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Certainly depends on the dealership, good ones still exist, shop around for sure, back then most MB dealerships' technicians are genuinely passion about the cars, they have pride doing the work and it makes them happy, now it is all about the pay cheque.
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I think the dealership matters but not as much as the specific tech that gets to work on your car. Even the best dealership can hire a dud or someone who just doesn't give a crap about your car and will cut corners. Pride in your work is important and ideally, anyone working on your car will take the same care and attention they would if it was their car.
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I think the dealership matters but not as much as the specific tech that gets to work on your car. Even the best dealership can hire a dud or someone who just doesn't give a crap about your car and will cut corners. Pride in your work is important and ideally, anyone working on your car will take the same care and attention they would if it was their car.
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Makes me reluctant to go to the dealership for routine maintenance rather than doing it myself. I typically change my own oil in all my cars but plan on taking my 2025 to the dealer every 10K to have them change it in between my 5K oil changes so that it's recorded in the MB service records. Never thought about using a paint pen to mark the filter to ensure it's been changed. Will try that next time I change my oil.
I write the milage on everything (engine oil filter, transmission pan, air filter etc). It also helps me keep track of when to do the maintenance because I routinely check under the hood as I do long car rides and a lot of miles.
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I have usually had very good experiences with MB dealerships before the 2016 year mark when I didn't know a thing about cars and was too afraid to touch anything. But maybe my level of attention to detail ruined the quality of work of others because I have such a high standard when I work on my cars (or anyones car for that matter).