Service Requirements
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Service Requirements
On my last E-class wagon, the manual told you how often the oil, pollen filter, engine air filter and brake fluid had to be changed, not in the case of the W213. In the Assyst Plus indicator, it states that Service B1 is due in 51 days. Does anyone have the service requirements for a W213?
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On my last E-class wagon, the manual told you how often the oil, pollen filter, engine air filter and brake fluid had to be changed, not in the case of the W213. In the Assyst Plus indicator, it states that Service B1 is due in 51 days. Does anyone have the service requirements for a W213?
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One year or 10,000 miles which ever comes first.
Personally, having said that, I use the mileage rather than the year. Unlike regular oil that deteriorate with both mileage and age, synthetic is used and age is no longer an issue.
So I service at 10,000 mile intervals which for me is 14/15 months.
The "A" service is at 10K, 30K and 50K which are basically oil changes and replacement of wiper blades and "B" services at 20K and 40K. The "B" service is basically the "A" service plus brake fluid flush and cabin filter changes.
Fluid levels are also checked and topped up and most dealers throw in a car wash.
Hopes this helps.
Personally, having said that, I use the mileage rather than the year. Unlike regular oil that deteriorate with both mileage and age, synthetic is used and age is no longer an issue.
So I service at 10,000 mile intervals which for me is 14/15 months.
The "A" service is at 10K, 30K and 50K which are basically oil changes and replacement of wiper blades and "B" services at 20K and 40K. The "B" service is basically the "A" service plus brake fluid flush and cabin filter changes.
Fluid levels are also checked and topped up and most dealers throw in a car wash.
Hopes this helps.
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Interesting that the Air Filters only need to be changed every 50K miles, I think that is not enough especially for someone who drives winters with sandy roads like up north. I'll probably do mine at 30K miles, simple enough to do, they recommend 30 k miles on the AMG's. I remember changing mine at 30K miles on my 2012 AMG wagon and they were loaded with sand, I was glad I changed them and not let them go longer. Interesting too how they recommend tranny oil changes every 30K miles on the AMG's and 60K miles for our cars. AMG's are definitely more maintenance. Then again they probably live harder lives
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One year or 10,000 miles which ever comes first.
Personally, having said that, I use the mileage rather than the year. Unlike regular oil that deteriorate with both mileage and age, synthetic is used and age is no longer an issue.
So I service at 10,000 mile intervals which for me is 14/15 months.
The "A" service is at 10K, 30K and 50K which are basically oil changes and replacement of wiper blades and "B" services at 20K and 40K. The "B" service is basically the "A" service plus brake fluid flush and cabin filter changes.
Fluid levels are also checked and topped up and most dealers throw in a car wash.
Hopes this helps.
Personally, having said that, I use the mileage rather than the year. Unlike regular oil that deteriorate with both mileage and age, synthetic is used and age is no longer an issue.
So I service at 10,000 mile intervals which for me is 14/15 months.
The "A" service is at 10K, 30K and 50K which are basically oil changes and replacement of wiper blades and "B" services at 20K and 40K. The "B" service is basically the "A" service plus brake fluid flush and cabin filter changes.
Fluid levels are also checked and topped up and most dealers throw in a car wash.
Hopes this helps.
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The first and only time I ever heard of a problem with the warranty was when UA549 posted in a different thread. I asked that he reference that part of the warranty that said there was a "30 day grace period".
He has not responded.
Again never heard of a problem using mileage instead of time before.
As I posted I am using mileage not time.
He has not responded.
Again never heard of a problem using mileage instead of time before.
As I posted I am using mileage not time.
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It does say "whichever comes first." Some things are definitely best seen to annually. For example, stretching a brake fluid change from 24 to 30 months can be false economy, especially if this means three wet seasons versus two. Brake fluid absorbs water from the atmosphere and will pit the master cylinder if it's allowed to remain in the system for an extended period in a hydrated state. Other things, like rubber boots, are effected by age, not mileage. A month or two is no big deal, but three or four, cycle after cycle, can accumulate. I always follow the "whichever comes first" direction.
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I really question that with Brake Fluid. I actually use to own a car service place and no American car mfg recommend brake fluid change at all (unless things have changed the past few years) which I always though was strange, a lot of people go well over ten years with the original brake fluid. I know the benz uses more complex braking systems but still I don't think going over the 2 years is a big deal. Whether it would effect the warranty is another story. If you had not changed the brake fluid in 4 years and had a issue with a warranty involved they may give you a hard time. Same thing with spark plugs. Most American cars have intervals of 100K miles on those. I know being turbocharged puts a little more wear on the plugs, but I'm sure when most people pull them out at 50 K miles and look at them and they look brand new still think what the heck am I even doing this for? Tranny fluid too, most people in american cars go 100K miles and I'll bet a lot of people with Mercedes don't do it till then if at all too.
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The first and only time I ever heard of a problem with the warranty was when UA549 posted in a different thread. I asked that he reference that part of the warranty that said there was a "30 day grace period".
He has not responded.
Again never heard of a problem using mileage instead of time before.
As I posted I am using mileage not time.
He has not responded.
Again never heard of a problem using mileage instead of time before.
As I posted I am using mileage not time.
The warranty statement in the Owner Maintenance document (separate from the Owners Manual) is:
It is the owner’s responsibility to maintain the vehicle according
to the Maintenance Schedule provided. All maintenance services
must be accomplished to keep your warranty coverage valid. When
requesting service or repair work under warranty, the owner must
present to the authorized Mercedes-Benz Center evidence that the
periodic servicing requirements have been accomplished. Receipts
covering completion of required servicing should be retained in the
event a question arises concerning maintenance.
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Especially with something like oil, I go by the "whichever comes first". My wife's GTI requires an oil change every 12 months or 12k miles. She only puts 2,000 or so on it a year, and it's way out of warranty, but that oil is going to be changed every year with high quality full-synthetic. Cheap at half the price!
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Brake Fluid change: the Germans must be using some super special highly secretive metal that may pit after two years due to "water condensation" in the fluid. I own a Ford and there is no requirement to change the brake fluid.
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
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Brake Fluid change: the Germans must be using some super special highly secretive metal that may pit after two years due to "water condensation" in the fluid. I own a Ford and there is no requirement to change the brake fluid.
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
This is my first Mercedes, and I will admit that I didn't really investigate the maintenance costs before buying. I suspect it wouldn't have changed my decision, but I've had some acceptance issues along the way.
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Now that my MB warranty is done I figure most of the service will be done at Indy mechanic. I did buy pre-paid service which worked out well for me as the last B service they did got me brake, tranny, diff fluids change, spark plugs, wiper blades and all filters chaged out. Now when I hit my next B service (as was A in January) I was looking at Autobahn Motors website and they want 1k for B Service but doesn't list anything offer a whole lot this is what it lists:
Includes Synthetic Motor Oil Replacement and Oil Filter Replacement, Fluid Level Check and Correction*, Tire Inflation Check and Correction, Brake Component Inspection, Reset Maintenance Counter and More!
All that for 1,025, so nope I have no intention of going there, my Indy will use Motul oil and do change for around 200 and do all those "checks"
Includes Synthetic Motor Oil Replacement and Oil Filter Replacement, Fluid Level Check and Correction*, Tire Inflation Check and Correction, Brake Component Inspection, Reset Maintenance Counter and More!
All that for 1,025, so nope I have no intention of going there, my Indy will use Motul oil and do change for around 200 and do all those "checks"
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7916696[/url]]On my last E-class wagon, the manual told you how often the oil, pollen filter, engine air filter and brake fluid had to be changed, not in the case of the W213. In the Assyst Plus indicator, it states that Service B1 is due in 51 days. Does anyone have the service requirements for a W213?
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Brake Fluid change: the Germans must be using some super special highly secretive metal that may pit after two years due to "water condensation" in the fluid. I own a Ford and there is no requirement to change the brake fluid.
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
But then again the brake pads on my Ford last 50,000 miles plus!
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Especially with something like oil, I go by the "whichever comes first". My wife's GTI requires an oil change every 12 months or 12k miles. She only puts 2,000 or so on it a year, and it's way out of warranty, but that oil is going to be changed every year with high quality full-synthetic. Cheap at half the price!
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The difference is basically the brake fluid used. Mercedes tends to use super Dot 4 which is basically Dot 4 with a higher boiling point. Most American cars use Dot 3 which has a lower boiling point. I believe the difference is that Dot 4 will boil with less moisture than dot 3 so you have the requirement to change it more often. But it's still probably more frequent than necessary and it's only going to boil if your brakes are hot from repeated braking like driving on the autobahn. You don't really see American cars with tire pressure recommendations when doing 100+ mph.
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Since I always reach the time interval before the mileage, I tend to loosely follow MB recommended service requirements. I suspect I'm not alone.
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I really question that with Brake Fluid. I actually use to own a car service place and no American car mfg recommend brake fluid change at all (unless things have changed the past few years) which I always though was strange, a lot of people go well over ten years with the original brake fluid. I know the benz uses more complex braking systems but still I don't think going over the 2 years is a big deal. Whether it would effect the warranty is another story. If you had not changed the brake fluid in 4 years and had a issue with a warranty involved they may give you a hard time. Same thing with spark plugs. Most American cars have intervals of 100K miles on those. I know being turbocharged puts a little more wear on the plugs, but I'm sure when most people pull them out at 50 K miles and look at them and they look brand new still think what the heck am I even doing this for? Tranny fluid too, most people in american cars go 100K miles and I'll bet a lot of people with Mercedes don't do it till then if at all too.