The Future of Wagons?
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I’m not a fan of AMG models. To me, the E63 is a horrendously overpowered vehicle, at least in the USA, where 95%+ of the speed limits are 65mph or less. I wouldn’t have one, even if it was the same price as my lowly E450.
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Here in Canada, It looks like the only non-AMG wagon coming to Canada for MY21 is the E450 all-terrain version. Considering it's almost entire cosmetic and very little of any real substantive changes, and in my opinion not a positive look, I'll be looking at used prior-year models instead.
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in CA I-5 is a raceway. But the E450 has enough power to do that. The AMG Wagon is for dragsters.
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Originally Posted by Yahoo!
This EQC is the third member of Mercedes's 4x4² family. In 2018, we drove a G550 4x4² and that one actually did enter series production. Also in 2018, Mercedes blessed us with an overlanding version of the E-class wagon called the E400 All-Terrain 4x4². The EQC concept carries on the spirit of those cars with its 11.5 inches of ground clearance (compared to 5.5 inches in the production version), off-road tires, fender flares, and the ability to tow a trailer or host a rooftop tent.
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LOL. I did have a Toyota 4x4 about that time. That was when I was still in Saskatchewan, then i got tired of the cold.
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No, you're not! Most American wagon buyers want an "Estate" wagon or a "Sport" wagon. If they want to be roaring around dirt roads, through streams & over rocks, etc., they want an SUV. IMO, MB has shot themselves in the foot--yet again--by copying other makes, instead of offering something unique. It's a shame.
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Most Americans do not want an "Estate" or "Sport" wagon. If that was true the sales numbers would be much higher. IMO most Americans want either a sedan or a SUV. A wagon has neither the functionality of a SUV nor the grace of a sedan.
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ua549, I think that quote was in reference to the All Terrain wagon, not about station wagons in general.
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I will amend my post.
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I'm sorry, but I should have worded my post better. It should have read: "No, you're not! Most American buyers OF WAGONS want an "Estate" wagon or a "Sport" wagon.If they want to be roaring around dirt roads, through streams & over rocks, etc., they want an SUV. IMO, MB has shot themselves in the foot--yet again--by copying other makes, instead of offering something unique. It's a shame."
I will amend my post.
I will amend my post.
Americans left wagons for Minivans in the late 1980s. And now that the major US makers have surrendered the sedan marketplace to the Japanese, Koreans and upmarket European makes, Americans have transitioned from the minivans to the SUVs/trucks lock, stock and barrel... and there appears to be no going back.
In my community, I see 4-5 MBs (sedans and SUVs) on the road every minute I drive. But I can't remember seeing an MB wagon, EVER (or any brand wagon for that matter.)
We have to thank the narrower roads throughout Europe for what remaining demand there is for station wagons. Without these European buyers, wagons would have died decades ago.
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I was looking at the All-Terrain on the MBUSA website. Wow, what a mistake. I expect A6 wagon sales will be up appropriately.
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My problem with the Allroad is the cargo space is tiny. I test drove one and really liked it but the cargo space is only 45 cu ft with rear seats down and they lie at about 25 degrees so they consume some of the limited space. For that reason I will not be buying one. I have found an E450 'sport' wagon with pretty much all my wanted options except for the color but I can live with it. E450 wagon inventory my dealer told me is down to around 45 cars in the whole country so its now or never
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Back in the 90's my wife threatened to divorce me if I bought an E36 AMG wagon (imagine Snoopy with a used Volvo wagon). I bought a '93 Jeep Grand Cherokee instead (peace in the house).
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My problem with the Allroad is the cargo space is tiny. I test drove one and really liked it but the cargo space is only 45 cu ft with rear seats down and they lie at about 25 degrees so they consume some of the limited space. For that reason I will not be buying one. I have found an E450 'sport' wagon with pretty much all my wanted options except for the color but I can live with it. E450 wagon inventory my dealer told me is down to around 45 cars in the whole country so its now or never
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I'm seriously doubtful that I will be able to find a low mileage CPO E450 wagon when the lease is up on my X5. I may settle for a GLC43 to keep my wife happy.