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Old 03-27-2021, 06:11 PM
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RIP my car / AKA Aquaplaning is a b*tch

Was on my way up to the Netherlands to see my parents.

Driving on the motorway in the rain - no extreme weather conditions and doing the speed limit.

Just like that the car started to aquaplane & cruise did NOT disengage.

Car did a 180°, then hit a slope on the side of the road which flipped the car on it's roof.

slid a few more meters, before coming to a stop, LUICKILY on the side of the road.

Was immediately called by the emergency system, while still upside down in the car.

Then got out without a scratch....

I was Very VERY lucky!

Stil no idea how this could have happened, though guess it was a combination of:

- poor road conditions / rain didn't flow away
- cruise control not disengaging (weird?) + rear wheel drive
- not paying enough attention to what tires & cruise were doing ...?
- and of course given the above, and even though was doing the speed limit; still driving too fast .

I learned a dangerous & expensive lesson...

"Fun" fact: at least 3 cars passed me while i was still in my car and at least 4 while i was standing next to it, before someone finally stopped to help....





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Old 03-27-2021, 06:34 PM
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Glad you are okay.
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Glad you were not injured. Hopefully you were fully insured and are now looking for a replacement vehicle, perhaps a 4matic.
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:38 PM
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Wow, glad you lived to tell the story. Sorry to hear about and see the damage.
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Old 03-27-2021, 10:03 PM
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The car did its job and protected you. So glad to hear you are OK.

You can always buy another!!!
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Sorry to hear about your car but the fact you came through unscathed is all that really matters. Now you'll have to buy something new which is never a bad thing
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Wow - very glad you are ok. I see you had the panoramic sunroof - especially glad you came out without a scratch given all the glass above your head. That was a good looking car - hopefully, you will have some fun looking for a replacement.
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Wow, that was a wicked ordeal! Glad you walked away unscathed. Appears the passenger compartment is pretty intact which is good to see it protection functioned as expected.
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Old 03-28-2021, 07:57 AM
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nice to see you survived...

but I do not think the cruise would turn off by itself...in this case.

hydroplaning is another reason I do not use Cruise in Rain and ensure tires have tread above wear bars..

But yeah hydroplaning is scary stuff - like ICE you lose all control until a tire gets back to earth.

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Pffffff, daar kom je goed weg zeg!

It looks like a serious crash, good to hear you are ok!
It was still in France as it seems? What kind of road surface was it? And that tires does you car have? Did it happen under a crossing or bridge?

I did see a similar accident once on the German Highway, at normal speeds (100-120 km/h) with some rain, but a lot of water under a road crossing (viaduct) and there a rear wheel Mercedes (W211) was suddenly aquaplanning and making a 900(!) degrees spin, resulting in standing backwards.....happily also on the emergency strip, and without any personal injuries.... Back then I drove an Audi quattro, and had all ESP, etc lights come on, but the car happily kept driving straight ahead through the water. Since then I always am very aware and awake when rear-drive cars are driving in extreme wet weather....

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Old 03-28-2021, 08:33 AM
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One thing is MB still makes very safe vehicles. Thankful you are ok and the car can be replaced.

Interestingly the cruise not disengaging is not good, this is a fault that poses serious safety risk. MB needs to become aware of this.
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Old 03-28-2021, 09:23 AM
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Holy ****! Glad to hear you're unscathed! That must have been jarring! I go for a massage after that....maybe with two instead of one! GL to you!
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Originally Posted by places
One thing is MB still makes very safe vehicles. Thankful you are ok and the car can be replaced.

Interestingly the cruise not disengaging is not good, this is a fault that poses serious safety risk. MB needs to become aware of this.
I may be wrong, but I've been taught from my teens NOT to engage cruise control in the rain.

My 2016 manual doesn't specifically say no to cruise control in the rain. Instead, it says the following:

Do not use cruise control:
--in road and traffic conditions which do not
allow you to maintain a constant speed e.g.
in heavy traffic or on winding roads
--on slippery road surfaces. Braking or accelerating
could cause the drive wheels to lose
traction and the vehicle could then skid
--when there is poor visibility, e.g. due to fog,
heavy rain or snow.

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Here it is referred to as "too fast for conditions"

Speed limits are the allowed maximum speed when conditions are near perfect. It is up to the driver to control their speed to match the conditions. Lesson learned (and hopefully it sticks).
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Wow!
Glad you are OK!
That is all that matters, the car can be replaced!
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:58 PM
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Glad you were not injured. Hopefully you were fully insured and are now looking for a replacement vehicle, perhaps a 4matic.
the lease would have ended in july so my new car has already ben ordered. not a 4matic though...
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:59 PM
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The car did its job and protected you. So glad to hear you are OK.

You can always buy another!!!
i was definitely lucky to be driving a MB and not a Fiat Panda...
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Originally Posted by ygmn
nice to see you survived...

but I do not think the cruise would turn off by itself...in this case.

hydroplaning is another reason I do not use Cruise in Rain and ensure tires have tread above wear bars..

But yeah hydroplaning is scary stuff - like ICE you lose all control until a tire gets back to earth.

Good Luck
i always thought it would shut off . anther lesson learned!

had 2 new tires put on the front just before i left. rear tires were still in good shape

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The main thing is that you are safe and no one else got hurt. That's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by HAWKiS63
Pffffff, daar kom je goed weg zeg!

It looks like a serious crash, good to hear you are ok!
It was still in France as it seems? What kind of road surface was it? And that tires does you car have? Did it happen under a crossing or bridge?

I did see a similar accident once on the German Highway, at normal speeds (100-120 km/h) with some rain, but a lot of water under a road crossing (viaduct) and there a rear wheel Mercedes (W211) was suddenly aquaplanning and making a 900(!) degrees spin, resulting in standing backwards.....happily also on the emergency strip, and without any personal injuries.... Back then I drove an Audi quattro, and had all ESP, etc lights come on, but the car happily kept driving straight ahead through the water. Since then I always am very aware and awake when rear-drive cars are driving in extreme wet weather....
""daar kom je goed weg zeg!"" - Dat kan je wel zeggen ja!

A 31 (autoroute du soleil) just before Nancy.

If i was to have the accident this was the "perfect" place to have it.
Yesterday, on my way back (with a rental) i checked that stretch of road and many areas had a drop of 2/3 meters on the side of the road with ditches that would have stopped the car abruptly... (rather then letting it slide to a stop)

this autoroute is a "peage" (tollroad) so you would expect a perfect surface, but this is no the case everywhere.
in general the asphalt was "dry (IE the water sipped through the porous surface), but on certain stretches this was not the case
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In general if it's just a few puddles then you sometimes feel a little aquaplaning, but usually only a split second.
But in my case i guess it was a bit worse than a "little puddle"....

i think i had bridgestones on the front and michelins on the back, but not sure . definitely not cheap tires










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Originally Posted by DFWdude
I may be wrong, but I've been taught from my teens NOT to engage cruise control in the rain.

My 2016 manual doesn't specifically say no to cruise control in the rain. Instead, it says the following:

Do not use cruise control:
--in road and traffic conditions which do not
allow you to maintain a constant speed e.g.
in heavy traffic or on winding roads
--on slippery road surfaces. Braking or accelerating
could cause the drive wheels to lose
traction and the vehicle could then skid
--when there is poor visibility, e.g. due to fog,
heavy rain or snow.
wow never seen this, thanks.
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
Here it is referred to as "too fast for conditions"

Speed limits are the allowed maximum speed when conditions are near perfect. It is up to the driver to control their speed to match the conditions. Lesson learned (and hopefully it sticks).
Amen to that!
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I see you were near Rainville. What can you expect next to Rainville if not rain?
Good that you had not suffered injuries.
Are there any salvageable parts from the car or is it a 'total loss'?
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Ha! hadn't even seen that

insurance expert say it's "total loss", cost of repair are equal / maybe higher than the car's value (which i guess is around 20.000 euro)

now we're waiting for the lease company to confirm this

Because if the car's total loss then the lease contract ends.. But if they insist on repairing, then the contact continues...

so they could potentially screw me on that.

I'm sure the car itself will be great for parts as it's mainly the body that's damaged.
I think even the engine is almost fully intact

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Originally Posted by Egonvdv
Ha! hadn't even seen that

insurance expert say it's "total loss", cost of repair are equal / maybe higher than the car's value (which i guess is around 20.000 euro)

now we're waiting for the lease company to confirm this

Because if the car's total loss then the lease contract ends.. But if they insist on repairing, then the contact continues...

so they could potentially screw me on that.

I'm sure the car itself will be great for parts as it's mainly the body that's damaged.
I think even the engine is almost fully intact
First, yes it's good that everything is ok with you and other drivers on the road. Just like we say in Bulgaria, it's just Tinplate.
Secondary, you are absolutely right, even i was going to ask a price for the rims.
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