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Old Aug 9, 2021 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald Davis
From my salesman: as of last Friday, 8/6/2021, all E and GLC’s for 2022 will NOT have:

1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.

All of those chips are being redirected to S and EQS cars until further notice.

I cancelled my order.
well, looks like it’s time to look at alternatives or just drive my C300 another couple of years. Sigh
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Old Aug 9, 2021 | 08:07 PM
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well, looks like it’s time to look at alternatives or just drive my C300 another couple of years. Sigh
Yea ... that'll be a bummer ... I've been waiting 6+ months for mine. If I cancel, I may just wait for the new unified C/E class Cabriolet.
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Old Aug 9, 2021 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald Davis
From my salesman: as of last Friday, 8/6/2021, all E and GLC’s for 2022 will NOT have:

1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.

All of those chips are being redirected to S and EQS cars until further notice.

I cancelled my order.
The lease on my 2019 E450 ends on December 30, 2021.

The three features you mention above are on my present car - I paid extra for the wide screen. I do not want to go backward.

Mercedes has contacted me through the mail about lease end option. Replacing my car without the above is not an option.

I also have a Ford Edge coming off lease end of September. Because of the dearth of Edges available, Ford has offered me the option to extend the lease at the same monthly payment and to extend the warranty through the lease extension plus a service including oil, filter and tire rotation at no charge.

In December 2021 I will still have 12 months and more than 25,000 miles left on the warranty on my E450.

Has anyone heard about Mercedes extending their leases - or should I start a new thread?
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Old Aug 9, 2021 | 10:24 PM
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a different approach - but if you have a car on order you can always extend your lease until the car arrives.
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Old Aug 9, 2021 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jhpmbusa
a different approach - but if you have a car on order you can always extend your lease until the car arrives.
I am aware of that as well: but I am not interested in ordering a new Mercedes that is missing equipment that is standard, and that I use and want, on my 2019 E450. Also because of the lack of inventory, dealers are not willing to be as aggressive on price as in normal times.

FWIW: Ford extended my lease for 12 months: It was not necessary for me to be buying or ordering a new Ford. My opinion is that since there are very few new Fords available, if Ford did not extend my lease I would have had to replace my present car with a competitor's car. By extending the lease, Ford earned my good will and when my lease ends I will of course look at Ford first.

Another advantage for Ford: I am paying the same monthly lease payment for a three year old car as opposed to when it was new. So this is a win for Ford - as it should be for Mercedes.
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
I am aware of that as well: but I am not interested in ordering a new Mercedes that is missing equipment that is standard, and that I use and want, on my 2019 E450. Also because of the lack of inventory, dealers are not willing to be as aggressive on price as in normal times.

FWIW: Ford extended my lease for 12 months: It was not necessary for me to be buying or ordering a new Ford. My opinion is that since there are very few new Fords available, if Ford did not extend my lease I would have had to replace my present car with a competitor's car. By extending the lease, Ford earned my good will and when my lease ends I will of course look at Ford first.

Another advantage for Ford: I am paying the same monthly lease payment for a three year old car as opposed to when it was new. So this is a win for Ford - as it should be for Mercedes.
The keyword in my statement is "order" i did not mention anything about obtaining/acquiring. haha you are supposed to be the fine print expert !
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jhpmbusa
a different approach - but if you have a car on order you can always extend your lease until the car arrives.
i placed an order for a MY21 E350 in Dec 2020, prod Feb and delivery April which kept getting pushed a few times but as of mid july, the car hadn't been built yet (and some options dropped like Drive-Dynamic Multi-contour Front Seats). my lease kept getting extended until it reached the 48Mo at which point MBFS said it can't be extended anymore (didn't care about the fact that i had a car on order that was being delayed). i am in canada so maybe there is some rule that says you can't have a lease more than 48mo but that was my experience, in the end, the dealer worked with MB canada who put pressure on a dealer to transfer a E350 that had just arrived (Jan production) with pretty much all the options i originally wanted including the dashcam and drive dynamic seats. will take photos and post soon
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Well, not sure if this is good or bad news. My salesperson says Netstar shows nothing deleted from my build BUT production has been slipped again. This time from Oct to mid January. * hangs head*
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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I concur with @Mikey53 , SA emailed me this morning stating nothing has been deleted and he received word from MBUSA that rather than deleting options for the US market, they will receive less and less allocations. My estimated prod date is still at 2nd D in Nov. Not sure how credible that is in regards to the option delete issue... however, Shahul U. did me a solid favor and pulled up my build in NetStar. I noticed that the -Dashcam, -Augmented Reality Option, -and Multicontour Seats were deleted off of my build. This isn't surprising because of what we've been seeing all year. I did not see option D8K like @Donald Davis .
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iammrsam
i placed an order for a MY21 E350 in Dec 2020, prod Feb and delivery April which kept getting pushed a few times but as of mid july, the car hadn't been built yet (and some options dropped like Drive-Dynamic Multi-contour Front Seats). my lease kept getting extended until it reached the 48Mo at which point MBFS said it can't be extended anymore (didn't care about the fact that i had a car on order that was being delayed). i am in canada so maybe there is some rule that says you can't have a lease more than 48mo but that was my experience, in the end, the dealer worked with MB canada who put pressure on a dealer to transfer a E350 that had just arrived (Jan production) with pretty much all the options i originally wanted including the dashcam and drive dynamic seats. will take photos and post soon
In the US the warranty is 48 months/50,000 miles whichever comes first.

As a general rule it is not a good idea to have a lease beyond the warranty period. Unlike when you own a car, if you have a major repair after the warranty, you can amortize the cost. When you lease, the lessor MB Financial is the beneficiary.

Just my $.02.
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
In the US the warranty is 48 months/50,000 miles whichever comes first.

As a general rule it is not a good idea to have a lease beyond the warranty period. Unlike when you own a car, if you have a major repair after the warranty, you can amortize the cost. When you lease, the lessor MB Financial is the beneficiary.

Just my $.02.
that might be the case (lease and warranty line up) but we are living in unusual times and it would have been nice of MB(Canada) or MBUSA and MBFS to recognize the production delays and extend leases and warranties . i believe some other car manufacturers have extended their vehicle warranties ...
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iammrsam
that might be the case (lease and warranty line up) but we are living in unusual times and it would have been nice of MB(Canada) or MBUSA and MBFS to recognize the production delays and extend leases and warranties . i believe some other car manufacturers have extended their vehicle warranties ...
Edit: sorry this is a repeat of #30.
I may have posted, hope I am not repeating, Ford is willing to extend the lease on my Edge for up to one year, at the same rate. The warranty will be extended as well plus an oil, filter and tire rotation at no charge.

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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TimInCA
Yea ... that'll be a bummer ... I've been waiting 6+ months for mine. If I cancel, I may just wait for the new unified C/E class Cabriolet.
I originally was going to order an e450 cabriolet. Instead I ordered a c300 cabriolet. I received it 2 weeks ago. I’d still be waiting for an e450.
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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Can someone tell me where these "world wide" factories are located, and why the myriad of other supplies seem to have at least partially recovered.. There is something fishy about all this. Gee, maybe we should start making our own!
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Can someone tell me where these "world wide" factories are located, and why the myriad of other supplies seem to have at least partially recovered.. There is something fishy about all this. Gee, maybe we should start making our own!
Auto manufacturers purchase these "high-end" chips mainly from Renesas and TSMC. Both have plants all over Asia but mainly Taiwan and Japan. Malaysia too has a large concentration of chip plants. Apparently, Intel doesn't do much in the automotive field. Several factors have caused this perfect storm:

a) JIT production planning bit auto manufacturers in the a** since production schedules were dramatically scaled back due to anticipation that COVID would wreak havoc on the auto market (a la the Great Recession). Thus, these chip manufacturers fulfilled their production capacity with orders from the booming tech markets due to increased demand for computers, etc. during the height of the COVID WFH months.
-Auto manufacturers can't just call up a supplier after cancelling orders and say, "hey Mr. Supplier, I need those 5 million chips again." Raw material purchasing doesn't work that way. Lead times and planning are always factored in.
b) One of Renesas' major Japanese plant experienced a major fire earlier this year.
c) Covid cases have continued to hammer many places in Asia with continued lockdowns, etc. They're not as fortunate in many countries as we are in the West in attaining enough vaccines for their population.

I work in the steel industry for a fairly large German company and we supply raw material sometimes direct to auto manufacturers and sometimes to tier 1 and 2 suppliers and it's the same story. Loads of orders were cancelled last year and now they're begging us for more material. Unfortunately, we too are experiencing raw material shortages. Guess what, basic economics are at work, prices keep rising as inventory levels remain limited..

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