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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:55 PM
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Mercedes to kill off all Wagons

Mercedes, Of All Carmakers, Is Reportedly Going To Stop Selling Wagons By 2030


https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/me...agons-by-2030/
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:19 PM
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Mercedes, Of All Carmakers, Is Reportedly Going To Stop Selling Wagons By 2030


https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/me...agons-by-2030/
Lets start scooping them up
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:44 PM
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I sure the focus grouped the heck out of it, but it makes me sad. That’s probably about when I’ll be looking to replace mine.
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 10:20 PM
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Newsflash: Mercedes will have killed off the ICE by then as well.

https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=50834319

The automotive landscape will be very different in a decade.
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 10:27 PM
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Image if you will (all credit to Rod Serling, Twilight Zone) a hurricane bearing down on South Florida (or South Louisiana: or Texas); all are told to evacuate. Power is down due to the winds and clouds have obscured the solar panels; and we all are in electric cars. How does that story end? How? I mean, seriously, has no one thought about this potential?
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 10:31 PM
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I sure the focus grouped the heck out of it, but it makes me sad. That’s probably about when I’ll be looking to replace mine.
My guess is that there is no demand in the China market. You invest $9 billion and the focus group listens to you.
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 11:02 PM
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My guess is that there is no demand in the China market. You invest $9 billion and the focus group listens to you.
I believe one of the articles mentioned it was mainly due to lack of demand in both the US and Chinese market.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 12:00 AM
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I am on my second wagon and really hoping to squeeze in one more before they kill them. And, as someone who fairly frequently makes 10 hour drives, I am going to resist electrification for a very long time...
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeZ4
Image if you will (all credit to Rod Serling, Twilight Zone) a hurricane bearing down on South Florida (or South Louisiana: or Texas); all are told to evacuate. Power is down due to the winds and clouds have obscured the solar panels; and we all are in electric cars. How does that story end? How? I mean, seriously, has no one thought about this potential?
If power is out, so are gas pumps.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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If power is out, so are gas pumps.
Fair point, however many of the larger stations in coastal areas incorporate a backup gen set to provide power in those emergencies. They have been through those events before. FEMA even ran a natural gas line into South Florida in the last decade to provide for that emergency backup power, not just in the larger fuel stations, but also in hospitals, municipal buildings, etc..
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 10:45 AM
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I am not a proponent of EVs, nor have I experienced a hurricane threat, but waiting until power is lost before implementing an escape plan seems a bit dim. Plenty of arguments to be made against EVs; to me this isn’t one of them. Arguably having the ability to fully charge at home ahead of a weather event eliminates the need to sit in line at a gas station when demand for fuel surges and supply is potentially exhausted.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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Florida law requires emergency generators for gas stations. That being said, many stations simply close during an emergency or run out of fuel.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 09:14 PM
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Sad news for us wagon fans. And as controversial as the new styling is for the All Terrain, I still prefer the All Terrain to any SUV or CUV on the market (side note, my 2022 AT build is complete and waiting for a shipping assignment). Now I need to plan out my next 2 MB wagons so I can get the "final edition" in 2030.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 09:28 PM
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I’m not totally against an EV. Why does EV mean we don’t get one in the wagon form factor? A wagon without a transmission tunnel and an even lower CG from having batteries low sounds pretty nice.
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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 12:21 PM
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It's a good thing all of those cars stranded on I95 recently weren't electric! At least if you run out of gas, it can be refilled!
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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madtrader
Why does EV mean we don’t get one in the wagon form factor?
The auto industry has been consolidating and becoming more homogenized for decades. Sedans, coupes, convertibles…and wagons…are vanishing. Styling of the crossovers that remain are almost indistinguishable between brands, and with an electric future they will be the most aerodynamic blobs possible for the all-important maximum range.
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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
The auto industry has been consolidating and becoming more homogenized for decades. Sedans, coupes, convertibles…and wagons…are vanishing. Styling of the crossovers that remain are almost indistinguishable between brands, and with an electric future they will be the most aerodynamic blobs possible for the all-important maximum range.
Hopefully Mercedes figure it out soon because Lucid despite being a startup has managed to achieve the same drag coefficient and doesn't look like what you said, a blob.

Edit: Nevermind Lucid air's drag co-efficient is 0.21 not 0.20 like the EQS.

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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 10:03 PM
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I agree…the Lucid looks great inside, outside, underneath, and is getting good reviews. I would take it over the EQS without thinking twice. To bring this back around…wish they made a wagon version. I would be first in line.
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I would love to see a crash-dummy occupied, head-on collision between the EQS and any one of the start-up competitor’s flagship sedans. With all the effort put into reducing weight and drag, I’m wondering how much engineering time went into active & passive safety measures in these new vehicles. I have zero use for a vehicle that can do 0 to 100 in three seconds. I have a huge NEED for ultimate safety and crash protection, which MB has had just about a HUNDRED more years than the start-ups to perfect.



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I agree, however no car is perfect. The mighty W221:



Originally Posted by Streamliner
I would love to see a crash-dummy occupied, head-on collision between the EQS and any one of the start-up competitor’s flagship sedans. With all the effort put into reducing weight and drag, I’m wondering how much engineering time went into active & passive safety measures in these new vehicles. I have zero use for a vehicle that can do 0 to 100 in three seconds. I have a huge NEED for ultimate safety and crash protection, which MB has had just about a HUNDRED more years than the start-ups to perfect.

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Originally Posted by Streamliner
I would love to see a crash-dummy occupied, head-on collision between the EQS and any one of the start-up competitor’s flagship sedans. With all the effort put into reducing weight and drag, I’m wondering how much engineering time went into active & passive safety measures in these new vehicles. I have zero use for a vehicle that can do 0 to 100 in three seconds. I have a huge NEED for ultimate safety and crash protection, which MB has had just about a HUNDRED more years than the start-ups to perfect.



FYI: Teslas have consistently received the highest crash ratings, equal to Mercedes.
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I agree, however no car is perfect. The mighty W221:
Or as Jeremy Clarkson so aptly stated:

“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
The auto industry has been consolidating and becoming more homogenized for decades. Sedans, coupes, convertibles…and wagons…are vanishing. Styling of the crossovers that remain are almost indistinguishable between brands, and with an electric future they will be the most aerodynamic blobs possible for the all-important maximum range.
Blobs...agree and a perfect description. Everything looks the same and will continue to. The future of automotive consumers won't have the same points of references we have, so our "blob" will be their beauty. It's really becoming all about the infotainment anyway, right?
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