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Old Sep 22, 2022 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
Guess you must have a shortage of mechanics out there. Plenty around here and I've heard of a few other places that will do oil changes in the $20-$40 range as part of local oil change special. As for the steak, depends on the restaurant, some places allow you to bring your own wine. Some places allow you to bring your own parts, some don't. I was actually surprised that there are Mercedes dealers out there that will let you bring Mercedes parts to the dealer and they'll install them. Some will just price match you so you don't have to buy it cheaper from an online Mercedes dealer.
If you bring MB parts to a MB dealer for service they have to use them. If they turn you down just call MB corporate in Atlanta and they’ll straighten out that dealer really fast.
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Old Sep 23, 2022 | 03:50 PM
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Throw in the Americans as well: do not change.

Again, you are always worrying about water whether it is in the oil or the brake fluid. As I pointed out, the real problem is not water, but multiple deceleration (braking) from high speeds that Germans encounter on the Autobahn and the possibility of the brake fluid boiling. this is a situation unique to Germany.

Can almost every other maker, who recommend either no changing or changing at 100K miles, be wrong and the German's right? I think not.

I would tend to give more credence to the Germans if they used some exotic brake fluid unique to their cars: but from what I can tell and have read the brake fluid in German cars is the same as all other cars.
I remembered that old BMW scam advertising lifetime transmission fluids, lifetime brake fluids is in the same category. Changing fluids periodically is part of preventative maintenance, some are big believer in that and some are not. The brakes on my W213 is pretty good, I intent to keep it at its top performance by changing out the brake fluid every 2 years.
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Old Sep 23, 2022 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
I remembered that old BMW scam advertising lifetime transmission fluids, lifetime brake fluids is in the same category. Changing fluids periodically is part of preventative maintenance, some are big believer in that and some are not. The brakes on my W213 is pretty good, I intent to keep it at its top performance by changing out the brake fluid every 2 years.
Makes you wonder why eh? Especially when service revenue makes up a huge part of a dealership's profit. Don't they want to suggest more frequent and unnecessary maintenance instead?
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Old Sep 23, 2022 | 05:52 PM
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Makes you wonder why eh? Especially when service revenue makes up a huge part of a dealership's profit. Don't they want to suggest more frequent and unnecessary maintenance instead?
Before the pandemic and especially in large metropolitan areas, for example NYC vicinity, where there can be over 25 dealers within a 50 mile radius, prices for those who shopped were extremely competitive.

The only place the dealership made money was in service.

So yeah, it is pretty obvious that service is pushed and don't forget since the car is expensive we have the best and most talented mechanics to work on your car: labor rate $195 an hour!
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Makes you wonder why eh? Especially when service revenue makes up a huge part of a dealership's profit. Don't they want to suggest more frequent and unnecessary maintenance instead?
If I remember correctly, during that time, BMW was trying to push and promote low maintenance cost. They were offering free 4 year maintenance, brakes were covered too. Some owners were braking their brand new BMW aggressively trying to get a new set of brakes before the 4 year warranty runs out. After a while, BMW decided it was okay to replace just the brake pad and not the rotor, rotors were inspected for thickness and resurface if necessary. After BMW stop offering free maintenance program, the brake maintenance requirements went back to replacing the pads and the rotors as a pair.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
If I remember correctly, during that time, BMW was trying to push and promote low maintenance cost. They were offering free 4 year maintenance, brakes were covered too. Some owners were braking their brand new BMW aggressively trying to get a new set of brakes before the 4 year warranty runs out. After a while, BMW decided it was okay to replace just the brake pad and not the rotor, rotors were inspected for thickness and resurface if necessary. After BMW stop offering free maintenance program, the brake maintenance requirements went back to replacing the pads and the rotors as a pair.
The 4 year service program was only for 2015 and 2016 model years then it reverted back to 3 year plans covering less.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
Before the pandemic and especially in large metropolitan areas, for example NYC vicinity, where there can be over 25 dealers within a 50 mile radius, prices for those who shopped were extremely competitive.

The only place the dealership made money was in service.

So yeah, it is pretty obvious that service is pushed and don't forget since the car is expensive we have the best and most talented mechanics to work on your car: labor rate $195 an hour!
Yup agree which is why I was confused they would advertise low maintenance cost instead.
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Old Sep 24, 2022 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
If I remember correctly, during that time, BMW was trying to push and promote low maintenance cost. They were offering free 4 year maintenance, brakes were covered too. Some owners were braking their brand new BMW aggressively trying to get a new set of brakes before the 4 year warranty runs out. After a while, BMW decided it was okay to replace just the brake pad and not the rotor, rotors were inspected for thickness and resurface if necessary. After BMW stop offering free maintenance program, the brake maintenance requirements went back to replacing the pads and the rotors as a pair.
Ah I see, that explains it thank you.
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