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I am willing to buy a Mercedes that have a keyless go (i read it in data card)
The car can lock and unlock by touching the door handle
The start button is missing from the car
If i order from ebay-amazon, can work or need programming?
I had a '94 C36 that issues with the remote that stranded me on the side of the road. The MB road service mechanic took a flat blade and popped the start button/key slot revealing a slot. He put a screwdriver blade in the slot, twisted and the car started. I drove the car that way for a couple of weeks while waiting for parts. Bottom line is that there was no start button per se.
The image above looks like the key slot area on my C36. The slot is just a key holder similar to the W213 key holder in the glove box.
Could you give the VIN code please. Since you have a normal key, the car should accept a dummy plastic keyless start button inserted to the ignition slot instead of the key. This assumes the car has the keyless start option. The button does not need any coding.
Since this is a GLC it's obviously the wrong forum, but KEYLESS START and KEYLESS GO are seperate options in some markets. You can have KEYLESS GO, but not KEYLESS START. It's not just a matter of ordering a button if the latter is missing. Since you have the data card, does it have KEYLESS START or just KEYLESS GO?
Since this is a GLC it's obviously the wrong forum, but KEYLESS START and KEYLESS GO are seperate options in some markets. You can have KEYLESS GO, but not KEYLESS START. It's not just a matter of ordering a button if the latter is missing. Since you have the data card, does it have KEYLESS START or just KEYLESS GO?
I thing if you have keyless go you have keyless start
if you have only keyless start only you can’t open the door by touching the dood handle
It's just a button you can buy on eBay/Amazon etc. You can remove it and put the key in the ignition if the key fob battery is dead because RFID doesn't require any power.
I thing if you have keyless go you have keyless start
if you have only keyless start only you can’t open the door by touching the dood handle
Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
Did you mean "the car can have keyless start but not keyless go"? Wife had a W213 with keyless start but no KG.
I meant what I said. You can have one or the other or both. They are separate options, each has their own option code. The data card will tell what the specific car is actually equipped with. Different markets package options differently, and some models may have both standard, but others don't.
Last edited by superswiss; May 5, 2023 at 06:42 PM.
like SuperSwiss said, with keyless go, you can start the car with a button and keys nearby. You need to find or buy the missing start button.
No, that's not what I said. Check the link for an explanation. KEYLESS GO only locks/unlocks the car. You need KEYLESS START as well in order to start the car w/o physical key. I know the names aren't exactly intuitive.
I meant what I said. You can have one or the other or both. They are separate options, each has their own option code. The data card will tell what the specific car is actually equipped with. Different markets package options differently, and some models may have both standard, but others don't.
OK, then I have to disagree. Keyless start was standard even on a W205 even in Germany. My car has both but data card only shows 889, the separate option code for keyless start does not apply to all MB models. I can be proven to be wrong (want to see a VIN proving me wrong) but I bet there is no MB that would or could be equipped with keyless go but not with keyless start. My claim is that the options are none, keyless start only or both.
OK, then I have to disagree. Keyless start was standard even on a W205 even in Germany. My car has both but data card only shows 889, the separate option code for keyless start does not apply to all MB models. I can be proven to be wrong (want to see a VIN proving me wrong) but I bet there is no MB that would or could be equipped with keyless go but not with keyless start. My claim is that the options are none, keyless start only or both.
The above snippet is from the build sheet of my 2019 C63S coupe (US spec). It has both options listed. I don't have a VIN, but I'm aware of cars that only have KEYLESS GO w/o KEYLESS START. There've been threads about it here.
The above snippet is from the build sheet of my 2019 C63S coupe (US spec). It has both options listed. I don't have a VIN, but I'm aware of cars that only have KEYLESS GO w/o KEYLESS START. There've been threads about it here.
Another clarification would be useful. I assume you are not referring to the datacard stating KG without keyless start? My W223 is one (still has both). I assume we are talking about the real feature in the car, a car having keyless entry but no keyless start. Anyone remembering previous forum discussions about this would be welcome to help with links.
It would be funny if the key can be kept in the pocket when entering the car but needs to be taken out of the pocket to start the car. Wouldn't everyone take the key before entering the car when it is easier, making the keyless entry more or less useless. I know a stupid use case does not prove much either way, just saying KG without keyless start would be funny.
Mercedes-Benz KEYLESS GO®: Essentially an upgraded version of KEYLESS-START®, Mercedes-Benz KEYLESS GO® allows you to start your ride by pressing the brake pedal and dash-mounted button as well as lock and unlock your Mercedes-Benz vehicle with a tap on any door handle by sensing the SmartKey in your pocket or purse. This feature is standard on more tech-savvy models, like the Mercedes-Benz GLE Coupe and S-Class Coupe, and optional on any new Mercedes-Benz vehicle
Among the three VIN decoders I use for my Facelift 2016 E350 (W212), each notes code 889 as: "KEYLESS-GO package" or just "KEYLESS-GO"... There is no code 893, as both functions are combined in one code.
I'm a bit surprised to see the codes separated again in the 2019 example above (post #20).
Another clarification would be useful. I assume you are not referring to the datacard stating KG without keyless start? My W223 is one (still has both). I assume we are talking about the real feature in the car, a car having keyless entry but no keyless start. Anyone remembering previous forum discussions about this would be welcome to help with links.
It would be funny if the key can be kept in the pocket when entering the car but needs to be taken out of the pocket to start the car. Wouldn't everyone take the key before entering the car when it is easier, making the keyless entry more or less useless. I know a stupid use case does not prove much either way, just saying KG without keyless start would be funny.
Correct. I don't have a VIN of a car that doesn't have KS and only has KG. I just remembered they came up in the past. I suppose it can make some sense to have KG, but not KS. One might walk up to their car with their hands full, so it's convenient to open the doors and trunk w/o having to take the keys out, but then once you are in the car, your hands are free. Prior to that we could unlock the doors from the fob, but still had to use the mechanical key in the fob to start the car.
Correct. I don't have a VIN of a car that doesn't have KS and only has KG. I just remembered they came up in the past. I suppose it can make some sense to have KG, but not KS. One might walk up to their car with their hands full, so it's convenient to open the doors and trunk w/o having to take the keys out, but then once you are in the car, your hands are free. Prior to that we could unlock the doors from the fob, but still had to use the mechanical key in the fob to start the car.
This is exactly the case. I've driven plenty of W205 loaner vehicles and there are 3 configurations regarding these specific features:
Car doesn't have KG or KS. (have to unlock and start car with FOB)
Car has KG but no KS. (can unlock with FOB in pocket but FOB is needed to start car)
Car has KG and KS. (can unlock and start car without removing FOB from pocket)
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