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Old Aug 30, 2024 | 11:34 PM
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I want to buy a US salvage 2024 E350, but got a little confused regarding the audio system.

Both cars have a Burmester silver-plated speakers in the front doors.
However, for the back seat, only one of the two cars got a Burmester silver-plated speakers in the doors, while the other got black-plated speakers.

Can someone explain to me the difference?






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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 08:27 AM
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It's only a guess, but I would think the one with the black speaker grills in the rear does not have the Burmester sound system. If the car does not have it all door speaker grills are black, with it all are the silver ones.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by estark
It's only a guess, but I would think the one with the black speaker grills in the rear does not have the Burmester sound system. If the car does not have it all door speaker grills are black, with it all are the silver ones.
It's weird man cause the front doors do have the burmester grills while the rear doors don't.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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It's weird man cause the front doors do have the burmester grills while the rear doors don't.
Is it possible that the previous owner put on imitation Burmester speaker grills on the front? They are readily available from AliExpress.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 10:57 AM
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Are you sure the grills in the back are black? The pic is dark and poor. Could just be a bad reflection.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewok
Is it possible that the previous owner put on imitation Burmester speaker grills on the front? They are readily available from AliExpress.
I highly doubt it. Why would they replace the front grills but not the back? I also have seen 4 other 2024 E classes with the same grill design, burmester front and black in back.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 11:11 AM
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Are you sure the grills in the back are black? The pic is dark and poor. Could just be a bad reflection.
Yes. This is not the only 2024 E class with black in back and burmester in fromt. I have seen around 4 other cars with the same speaker grill design.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 09:19 AM
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Check the contents using the vehicle vim number. Use MB.vin and you can find out everything in each car.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by estark
Check the contents using the vehicle vim number. Use MB.vin and you can find out everything in each car.
Amazing website. Thank you.

It says "premium sound system" for both cars regardless of speaker grill color. Not sure what that means.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AhmedKathiri
I want to buy a US salvage 2024 E350, but got a littlconfused regarding the audio system.

Both cars have a Burmester silver-plated speakers in the front doors.
However, for the back seat, only one of the two cars got a Burmester silver-plated speakers in the doors, while the other got black-plated speakers.

Can someone explain to me the difference?

The red circle in the above picture shows the lever opening the car door, not the speaker. It is too high up and too rearward. The rear door speaker grille is lower and more forward near the front of the silver door arm rest area. I am sure of that.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewok
The red circle in the above picture shows the lever opening the car door, not the speaker. It is too high up and too rearward. The rear door speaker grille is lower and more forward near the front of the silver door arm rest area. I am sure of that.
You are right. I put the circle a little above, but below, part of the grill should be be visible. Right here it is showing but no too visible due to the picrure quality and door color.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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As Ewok said, you are looking at the door handle. The silver speaker grille is obscured by the seat and cannot be seen in that picture. My guess is they are the proper silver grille for the rear. I'm assuming you haven't seen these cars in person so you should probably go do that. Or, at least have the sales rep take some additional pictures to ease your mind.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
As Ewok said, you are looking at the door handle. The silver speaker grille is obscured by the seat and cannot be seen in that picture. My guess is they are the proper silver grille for the rear. I'm assuming you haven't seen these cars in person so you should probably go do that. Or, at least have the sales rep take some additional pictures to ease your mind.
I'm sure it is black. Later I will post pictures of other cars having silver grills in front and black in the back.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AhmedKathiri
I'm sure it is black. Later I will post pictures of other cars having silver grills in front and black in the back.
What makes you so sure? Have you seen other 2024 EClass models with silver front and black rear speaker covers? Maybe it's different in different markets? One way to tell if it has the Burmester is to look at the audio settings on the center screen. It will have a sound personalisation option.
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
What makes you so sure? Have you seen other 2024 EClass models with silver front and black rear speaker covers? Maybe it's different in different markets? One way to tell if it has the Burmester is to look at the audio settings on the center screen. It will have a sound personalisation option.
I thought I did see some 2024 E class cars that have burmsters grills in the front but black grills in the back, but honestly I'm not sure anymore.

Can you help me identify which grills this car has based on the pictures in the links below?

The car I want, with burmster grills in the front but no clear picture of what is in the back:
https://www.copart.com/lot/67459774/...ttsburgh-north

This car has burmster grills in both front and back seats:
https://www.copart.com/lot/59123814/...ca-bakersfield

This one has black grills in the back doors but no clear picture of what is in the front:
https://www.iaai.com/VehicleDetail/40478977~US

Can I know what different audio systems this car has? And how can I tell them apart visually?

Also, doesn't the base burmester system come as a standard in this car?

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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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There is a simple way for you to self-service and determine if a car has the Burmester sound system in it. Head on over to https://mb.vin and enter the VIN of the car you want to check. The cars you provided links to do not have the full VIN listed but do provide a clear picture of the VIN. Also, the mb.vin site is a little finicky with the reCAPTCHA and can sometimes require multiple tries (for me at least) before allowing you through. I have also had mb.vin just do nothing when hitting submit even after satisfying the reCAPTCHA. It can take 5 or more attempts to make it work sometimes. In any case, once you get past the poor UX for that site, it will show you a full list of options for the specific VIN you searched for. Click on the Options tab and there you will want to look for option 810 which is the premium sound system. It even has images of the car but those are all generated based on the options of the car and not actual pictures of the car itself. The first car you listed with no clear pictures of the rear speakers does have the Burmester (810) option. So does the second vehicle, but the third does not have it.

All EClass cars do not come with the Burmester system as that is a $1030 add on as a separate option or $3400 if you get the Pinnacle Trim package. I have no idea what the base sound system is like but I'm sure it's not too bad. My W212 E350 sounded great and it was much older and the base sound system. The Burmester is amazing though and well worth the extra cost for that option.

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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 02:44 PM
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There is a simple way for you to self-service and determine if a car has the Burmester sound system in it. Head on over to https://mb.vin and enter the VIN of the car you want to check. The cars you provided links to do not have the full VIN listed but do provide a clear picture of the VIN. Also, the mb.vin site is a little finicky with the reCAPTCHA and can sometimes require multiple tries (for me at least) before allowing you through. I have also had mb.vin just do nothing when hitting submit even after satisfying the reCAPTCHA. It can take 5 or more attempts to make it work sometimes. In any case, once you get past the poor UX for that site, it will show you a full list of options for the specific VIN you searched for. Click on the Options tab and there you will want to look for option 810 which is the premium sound system. It even has images of the car but those are all generated based on the options of the car and not actual pictures of the car itself. The first car you listed with no clear pictures of the rear speakers does have the Burmester (810) option. So does the second vehicle, but the third does not have it.

That you very much. I just did that. How can I tell if these cars have the standard burmester or the pinnacle one based on the data in mb.vin?

Also is mb.vin fully accurate to look for such info?

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Originally Posted by AhmedKathiri
That you very much. I just did that. How can I tell if these cars have the standard burmester or the pinnacle one based on the data in mb.vin?

Also is mb.vin fully accurate to look for such info?
They’re both the same. It’s just included in the Pin pkg or can be added as a separate option. Pinnacle trim will be DX2.
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That you very much. I just did that. How can I tell if these cars have the standard burmester or the pinnacle one based on the data in mb.vin?

Also is mb.vin fully accurate to look for such info?
Both sound systems are the same. You can just get the upgrade as an individual package or with the Pinnacle trim, you get sound and heat insulated glass along with the the illuminated grille and active ambient lighting. I can't say how accurate mb.vin is but it's been accurate for the cars I have driven so far.
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Thanks guys for taking the time to answer my questions, you helped me a lot.

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They’re both the same. It’s just included in the Pin pkg or can be added as a separate option. Pinnacle trim will be DX2.
Hey man how did you know that DX2 refers to pinnacle package? Cause ther are a lot of other codes that do not have an explanation and I'd like a list of their meaning if you can help by a link or something.
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You can find them in the order guides.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...der-guide.html
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When you check the Vin number details look for code 810.
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Originally Posted by estark
When you check the Vin number details look for code 810.
Yeah it's clear now. At first I thought the car could have one two different burmester systems. Looks like mercedes ditched the lower end one.
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