E/W214: 2025 E class prices paid
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As I also posted, an ordered car should be at an equal or greater discount than a stock car: ;the car comes in and is pre-sold.
I know convertibles are not discounted as much as sedans and I suppose wagons as well - but both should be discounted.
Remember the bread and butter for dealers, Mercedes included are SUV's: everything else sits and to sell must be discounted.
Good luck and keep us posted!
I know convertibles are not discounted as much as sedans and I suppose wagons as well - but both should be discounted.
Remember the bread and butter for dealers, Mercedes included are SUV's: everything else sits and to sell must be discounted.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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As I always lease, and at the end of the lease I have decide whether it makes economic sense to buy at lease end or get another car, I always check the value of my car at KBB.com. I use the trade in value, which is more or less wholesale and what you should expect to get on trade in.
I previously posted that in NY the value of the trade in is deducted from the selling price to determine sales tax. Do not know if that is the same in Florida.
I know the old adage and try to follow it:
Again in NY, maybe even under Federal law, the dealer is required to return your deposit.
Hope this helps.
I previously posted that in NY the value of the trade in is deducted from the selling price to determine sales tax. Do not know if that is the same in Florida.
I know the old adage and try to follow it:
Never buy the first year of production.
So for me the decision would be easy: if the dealer does not give you a significant discount, I would walk and wait a year.Again in NY, maybe even under Federal law, the dealer is required to return your deposit.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info, I'm really having second thoughts if I'm doing the right thing getting rid of the 2019 as it drives perfect and low miles and I've maintained the car perfectly since I bought it new. My main complaint with the 2019 is the ride is not very good, especially on rough roads should I take the car up North. I may walk from the deal if the dealer is only willing to give me a 4 percent discount or less and is gonna go by black book on my trade in and try to give me 28 K or something. I really want at least 34K and the $9500 off sticker would be nice, the sticker on the car is 90 grand, that would put my cash outlay around $50K after sales tax and the other expenses. The dealer has had one fully spec'd out gray wagon sitting on the lot for nearly 6 months now, I don't think they want to get stuck with another one. I probably would loose the 1K deposit if I walk from this deal though as this is Florida a very pro business tough state. A lot of the up north more liberal states are obligated to give back security deposits.
When I googled the question here is what I found:
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Note that a contract is required. I would assume that if the price is not set forth in the contract, there is what in the law is considered a failure for a "meeting of the minds". With a contract missing the purchase price I doubt any court would consider that a binding agreement.
Finally what does your contract say with regard to the deposit: it non refundable? To be non refundable the contract must clearly state so. If not then the default is that it is refundable.
For a car deposit to be considered non-refundable, the contract must explicitly state that the deposit is "non-refundable" or include language clearly indicating that the buyer will not receive the deposit back if they choose not to purchase the vehicle, regardless of the reason for cancellation; this should be written in a prominent and easily understandable section of the contract.
see: https://www.google.com/search?q=%0D%...t=gws-wiz-serp
Hope this helps.
PS: It seems like there is nothing wrong with your 2019 except for the ride. All necessary maintenance has been done including the transmission. If I remember correctly you do not have the stock 18 wheels, but larger wheels with narrower sidewalls which contributes to the rougher ride - but as you say it is only a problem when you go up north. I have a similar problem: my extended warranty ends December 2025. My only problem is rough shifting at light throttle. The dealer tried to fix it with recalibration. I really like the buttons on my 2019 which have been replaced by a touch screen on the new model. Like you, I am "too old", I am now in my ninth decade as of September 1, to try to learn new tricks. Everything works on my car and I like the fact that I am keeping it up to date. But bottom line for me, I will not buy First year of production. Let other people buy and be the Beta testers.
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Thanks for the info, I'm really having second thoughts if I'm doing the right thing getting rid of the 2019 as it drives perfect and low miles and I've maintained the car perfectly since I bought it new. My main complaint with the 2019 is the ride is not very good, especially on rough roads should I take the car up North. I may walk from the deal if the dealer is only willing to give me a 4 percent discount or less and is gonna go by black book on my trade in and try to give me 28 K or something. I really want at least 34K and the $9500 off sticker would be nice, the sticker on the car is 90 grand, that would put my cash outlay around $50K after sales tax and the other expenses. The dealer has had one fully spec'd out gray wagon sitting on the lot for nearly 6 months now, I don't think they want to get stuck with another one. I probably would loose the 1K deposit if I walk from this deal though as this is Florida a very pro business tough state. A lot of the up north more liberal states are obligated to give back security deposits.
Personally I would never keep any Mercedes after the warranty is up because everything costs a arm and a leg to fix. But if you have a good feeling about your 2019 than by all means keep it. Just get the suspension checked out to see if the choppy ride is normal or not.
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In my experience whenever I've tried to custom order a car, the dealer has always given me less discount because they'd rather give you a better discount on a stock vehicle so they can move inventory.. They should've appraised your car when you put a deposit on the new one.and given you a trade in value. This way you don't get penalized for the extra miles you put on your vehicle while waiting for the new one to arrive. That's how it has worked for me when I have custom ordered a car. Any reputable dealership should also refund your deposit if you back out. It's just good business for them. I think you should revisit the dealership and iron all this out.
Personally I would never keep any Mercedes after the warranty is up because everything costs a arm and a leg to fix. But if you have a good feeling about your 2019 than by all means keep it. Just get the suspension checked out to see if the choppy ride is normal or not.
Personally I would never keep any Mercedes after the warranty is up because everything costs a arm and a leg to fix. But if you have a good feeling about your 2019 than by all means keep it. Just get the suspension checked out to see if the choppy ride is normal or not.
I lease so the price is fixed when I order the car. The trade in value is also fixed.
Hope this clarifies.
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On old stock 2025 sedans I've seen two posters getting 10% but forgot if those were E450s or E53s.
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2026 E53 wagon
you know he means 2026. It’s just an old thread.
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People don't like to publicly post what they did or didn't get as if it's too much it makes others feel bad but more importantly if it was too little they will feel bad about their own deal.
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
I only talked to two dealers, one offered no discount on a special order and they didn't even have any more allocations so they would have had to trade for one and the other offered 2% which I took with a January build date.
Also remember that other fees ans add-ons can be substantial and can make a big difference in OTD pricing.
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
I only talked to two dealers, one offered no discount on a special order and they didn't even have any more allocations so they would have had to trade for one and the other offered 2% which I took with a January build date.
Also remember that other fees ans add-ons can be substantial and can make a big difference in OTD pricing.
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People don't like to publicly post what they did or didn't get as if it's too much it makes others feel bad but more importantly if it was too little they will feel bad about their own deal.
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
I only talked to two dealers, one offered no discount on a special order and they didn't even have any more allocations so they would have had to trade for one and the other offered 2% which I took with a January build date.
Also remember that other fees ans add-ons can be substantial and can make a big difference in OTD pricing.
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
I only talked to two dealers, one offered no discount on a special order and they didn't even have any more allocations so they would have had to trade for one and the other offered 2% which I took with a January build date.
Also remember that other fees ans add-ons can be substantial and can make a big difference in OTD pricing.
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We have been looking around for an 2026 E53 wagon and considered both in stock and ordering. We ended up with one a local dealer had on their lot that is nearly identical to what we would have ordered. Our experience was similar to what GregTR mentioned - MSRP or a small discount (~$2K-3K) but with a wide variety of fees and add-ons. We ended up at ~$3K off with fees typical for our area and no add-ons.
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Thanks. This all makes sense, and I know that differences in fees and trade-ins can complicate an apples-to-apples comparison. Just trying to get some ballpark idea, since the sources I’ve used in the past (Edmunds and KBB) seem to be totally useless on these vehicles, presumably because of the low volume of sales.
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As I said, there are more ways for a dealer to make up the difference, fees, lowered trade-in value etc. but I would hope that in this day and age most dealers are a bit more honest and transparent than ever before.
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Correct. Which is why I figured 2% on a special order was reasonable. You likely can get a bit more off if you take one off the lot although realistically a special order should leave more money in the dealer's pocket as there is no flooring cost.
As I said, there are more ways for a dealer to make up the difference, fees, lowered trade-in value etc. but I would hope that in this day and age most dealers are a bit more honest and transparent than ever before.
As I said, there are more ways for a dealer to make up the difference, fees, lowered trade-in value etc. but I would hope that in this day and age most dealers are a bit more honest and transparent than ever before.
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Right. I always keep the trade and finance discussions separate. Once we agreed on the OTD pricing we can start the process of talking trade in and finance. Always know your outside beat finance offer and what other trade-in options you may have.
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2026 E53 Wagon
Has anyone used an AAA, Sam’s Club and/or AmEx discount? I negotiated my OTD price, but never mentioned I have all three of those. Waiting until the car is about to arrive to discuss any Affinity discounts or at-the-time Mercedes incentives…
is fleet pricing the same as any cash incentive that those Affinity partners offer? Like AAA currently has $500 off e-class (sadly not E53). Is that $500 the same thing as fleet pricing or is fleet pricing something completely different?
is fleet pricing the same as any cash incentive that those Affinity partners offer? Like AAA currently has $500 off e-class (sadly not E53). Is that $500 the same thing as fleet pricing or is fleet pricing something completely different?
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2026 E53 Wagon
Has anyone used an AAA, Sam’s Club and/or AmEx discount? I negotiated my OTD price, but never mentioned I have all three of those. Waiting until the car is about to arrive to discuss any Affinity discounts or at-the-time Mercedes incentives…
is fleet pricing the same as any cash incentive that those Affinity partners offer? Like AAA currently has $500 off e-class (sadly not E53). Is that $500 the same thing as fleet pricing or is fleet pricing something completely different?
is fleet pricing the same as any cash incentive that those Affinity partners offer? Like AAA currently has $500 off e-class (sadly not E53). Is that $500 the same thing as fleet pricing or is fleet pricing something completely different?
