E/W214: 2025 E class prices paid
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2025 E class prices paid
Hello,
There were so few posts on this and similar threads were helpful for previous purchases so here goes.
bought a 2025 E450 sedan yesterday. Nautical blue with Tonka brown interior
msrp with destination is $78380.
I paid $80k on the dot otd with 6% sales tax, title, licensing and all doc fees. No trade. Got financing from Bank of America preferred rate of 5.05% for 60 months. I think technically this is through dealer. Was there money left on the table ? Maybe. But it was a one day in and out experience and they had the engine, int and ext color and Burmester I wanted.
car is faaaaast. Smooth and tech laden.
There were so few posts on this and similar threads were helpful for previous purchases so here goes.
bought a 2025 E450 sedan yesterday. Nautical blue with Tonka brown interior
msrp with destination is $78380.
I paid $80k on the dot otd with 6% sales tax, title, licensing and all doc fees. No trade. Got financing from Bank of America preferred rate of 5.05% for 60 months. I think technically this is through dealer. Was there money left on the table ? Maybe. But it was a one day in and out experience and they had the engine, int and ext color and Burmester I wanted.
car is faaaaast. Smooth and tech laden.
Last edited by ring523; Oct 5, 2024 at 05:28 PM.
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W214 E450
Hello,
There were so few posts on this and similar threads were helpful for previous purchases so here goes.
bought a 2025 E450 sedan yesterday. Nautical blue with Tonka brown interior
msrp with destination is $78380.
I paid $80k on the dot otd with 6% sales tax, title, licensing and all doc fees. No trade. Got financing from Bank of America preferred rate of 5.05% for 60 months. I think technically this is through dealer. Was there money left on the table ? Maybe. But it was a one day in and out experience and they had the engine, int and ext color and Burmester I wanted.
car is faaaaast. Smooth and tech laden.
There were so few posts on this and similar threads were helpful for previous purchases so here goes.
bought a 2025 E450 sedan yesterday. Nautical blue with Tonka brown interior
msrp with destination is $78380.
I paid $80k on the dot otd with 6% sales tax, title, licensing and all doc fees. No trade. Got financing from Bank of America preferred rate of 5.05% for 60 months. I think technically this is through dealer. Was there money left on the table ? Maybe. But it was a one day in and out experience and they had the engine, int and ext color and Burmester I wanted.
car is faaaaast. Smooth and tech laden.
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i look it as getting a $78380 car for $74050.
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the dealer? I really really did not want a white or black car but there were some 2024s I think I could have gotten 8ish% off msrp on
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I was able to use a Sam’s Club coupon for $500 off. My sticker was $82,400 and all I could do was $1k off and a free window tint ($500) as well as the coupon. I ordered the car so they kind of had me over a barrel. I might have paid too much but I’m happy.
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Keep this in mind for the future.
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One of the fallacies is that dealer's will not discount ordered cars as much as cars on the lot. In the NYC area where I live the opposite is often the case: when you order a car the dealer knows the car is sold before it comes it. The sale is quick and fast. Dealer's look for ordered cars and often show their appreciation with large discounts. My order 2019 E450 was discounted 10% off of MSRP while cars on the lot were being discounted between 5% and 8%.
Keep this in mind for the future.
Keep this in mind for the future.
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Just got my 2025 E350 which MSRPd at 80,324. Was able to get $9500 discount. Doc fee was $460, registration fee was $280 and the sales tax of 6.25%. They also charged me $500 for paint and leather protection that they install on all cars.
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Going forward great to know. Thanks for posting.
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One of the problems when you trade in a car, is actually figuring out how much of a discount you received. The only true way to know is compare the trade in value (wholesale) to what you received.
KBB.com has the trade in value of a 2021 Lexus ES 300h Ultra Luxury sedan with 39,000 miles, in excellent shape, with standard equipment at $35,900.
see: https://www.kbb.com/lexus/es/2021/es...&entry=defymmt
If this is the car you traded in, then the dealer on trade gave you $7,000 less than it was worth, so in effect your discount was not $9,500, but $7,000 less or $2,500.
Actually maybe even less: the $500 for leather seat and paint protection is a dealer add on of little to no value. (I have never heard of leather seat protection and paint protection is nothing more than a wax job - on a new care worthless) The document fee is normally less than $200. You paid more than double that.
In NY when you trade in a car, for sales tax purposes, the trade in value of the your car is deducted from the selling price, Where I live the sales tax is 8.625%. The sales tax saving on a trade of $28,500 is $2,459.
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One of the problems when you trade in a car, is actually figuring out how much of a discount you received. The only true way to know is compare the trade in value (wholesale) to what you received.
KBB.com has the trade in value of a 2021 Lexus ES 300h Ultra Luxury sedan with 39,000 miles, in excellent shape, with standard equipment at $35,900.
see: https://www.kbb.com/lexus/es/2021/es...&entry=defymmt
If this is the car you traded in, then the dealer on trade gave you $7,000 less than it was worth, so in effect your discount was not $9,500, but $7,000 less or $2,500.
Actually maybe even less: the $500 for leather seat and paint protection is a dealer add on of little to no value. (I have never heard of leather seat protection and paint protection is nothing more than a wax job - on a new care worthless) The document fee is normally less than $200. You paid more than double that.
In NY when you trade in a car, for sales tax purposes, the trade in value of the your car is deducted from the selling price, Where I live the sales tax is 8.625%. The sales tax saving on a trade of $28,500 is $2,459.
KBB.com has the trade in value of a 2021 Lexus ES 300h Ultra Luxury sedan with 39,000 miles, in excellent shape, with standard equipment at $35,900.
see: https://www.kbb.com/lexus/es/2021/es...&entry=defymmt
If this is the car you traded in, then the dealer on trade gave you $7,000 less than it was worth, so in effect your discount was not $9,500, but $7,000 less or $2,500.
Actually maybe even less: the $500 for leather seat and paint protection is a dealer add on of little to no value. (I have never heard of leather seat protection and paint protection is nothing more than a wax job - on a new care worthless) The document fee is normally less than $200. You paid more than double that.
In NY when you trade in a car, for sales tax purposes, the trade in value of the your car is deducted from the selling price, Where I live the sales tax is 8.625%. The sales tax saving on a trade of $28,500 is $2,459.
Plus the value you're looking at on KBB is for a private sale. Trade in value for that ultra luxury is $30-33k. Mine was a luxury model. Trade in value on KBB was 27500 to 29500.
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Mine was not the ultra luxury model. For reference I bought the Lexus brand new in 2021 for $46000 before TTL. The KBB value on the Lexus in excellent condition was $29500. They knocked off $1000 because my car had original tires from factory and had little to no tread left on them.
Plus the value you're looking at on KBB is for a private sale. Trade in value for that ultra luxury is $30-33k. Mine was a luxury model. Trade in value on KBB was 27500 to 29500.
Plus the value you're looking at on KBB is for a private sale. Trade in value for that ultra luxury is $30-33k. Mine was a luxury model. Trade in value on KBB was 27500 to 29500.
Thanks for posting.
Hopefully many will read and negotiate appropriately with their dealers.
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Thanks for posting Kingofire. I have a 2025 on order which should be in stock sometime very soon. I think I'm going to negotiate very hard for at least a 9K discount off Msrp. Also I have the feeling the dealer is gonna try to really low ball my 2019 E450 wagon trade. KBB trade in value is 31K to 34K. I've been reading that KBB trade in is meaningless to most dealers and a lot of them work off Black book value. My yy2019 is only 40K miles and very nice condition, I would hate to take much less than 34K for the car. All maintenance is up to date including a early trans oil change I did last spring. Especially with all the issues mainly software the 2024/25's seem to be experiencing even if it does not work out not the end of the world if I keep my 2019 E450. Not sure what the dealer would do about my $1K deposit but by law I don't believe they are able to keep it. The dealer may not be crazy about having another All Terrain in stock here in sunny florida as these cars don't seem to sell very well here. They have had a gray 2024 All Terrain in Stock now since late May, still listed on their new car inventory. I did get a carmax quote on my 2019 and it was only 31K, I know the car is worth more than that. I see ones at retail for sale around 40K.
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I wonder though if the E350 is discounted more than the E450 All Terrain normally?
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Thanks for posting Kingofire. I have a 2025 on order which should be in stock sometime very soon. I think I'm going to negotiate very hard for at least a 9K discount off Msrp. Also I have the feeling the dealer is gonna try to really low ball my 2019 E450 wagon trade. KBB trade in value is 31K to 34K. I've been reading that KBB trade in is meaningless to most dealers and a lot of them work off Black book value. My yy2019 is only 40K miles and very nice condition, I would hate to take much less than 34K for the car. All maintenance is up to date including a early trans oil change I did last spring. Especially with all the issues mainly software the 2024/25's seem to be experiencing even if it does not work out not the end of the world if I keep my 2019 E450. Not sure what the dealer would do about my $1K deposit but by law I don't believe they are able to keep it. The dealer may not be crazy about having another All Terrain in stock here in sunny florida as these cars don't seem to sell very well here. They have had a gray 2024 All Terrain in Stock now since late May, still listed on their new car inventory. I did get a carmax quote on my 2019 and it was only 31K, I know the car is worth more than that. I see ones at retail for sale around 40K.
I previously posted that in NY the value of the trade in is deducted from the selling price to determine sales tax. Do not know if that is the same in Florida.
I know the old adage and try to follow it:
Never buy the first year of production.
So for me the decision would be easy: if the dealer does not give you a significant discount, I would walk and wait a year.Again in NY, maybe even under Federal law, the dealer is required to return your deposit.
Hope this helps.
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I know convertibles are not discounted as much as sedans and I suppose wagons as well - but both should be discounted.
Remember the bread and butter for dealers, Mercedes included are SUV's: everything else sits and to sell must be discounted.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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It is the same in Florida. Florida state sales tax is 6% and city/county sales tax on vehicles is an extra 1.5% on the first $5,000 and 0% on the rest.
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Thanks for posting Kingofire. I have a 2025 on order which should be in stock sometime very soon. I think I'm going to negotiate very hard for at least a 9K discount off Msrp. Also I have the feeling the dealer is gonna try to really low ball my 2019 E450 wagon trade. KBB trade in value is 31K to 34K. I've been reading that KBB trade in is meaningless to most dealers and a lot of them work off Black book value. My yy2019 is only 40K miles and very nice condition, I would hate to take much less than 34K for the car. All maintenance is up to date including a early trans oil change I did last spring. Especially with all the issues mainly software the 2024/25's seem to be experiencing even if it does not work out not the end of the world if I keep my 2019 E450. Not sure what the dealer would do about my $1K deposit but by law I don't believe they are able to keep it. The dealer may not be crazy about having another All Terrain in stock here in sunny florida as these cars don't seem to sell very well here. They have had a gray 2024 All Terrain in Stock now since late May, still listed on their new car inventory. I did get a carmax quote on my 2019 and it was only 31K, I know the car is worth more than that. I see ones at retail for sale around 40K.
Mercedes loses so much value as soon as you drive off the dealer lot that you never recoup the real value.
Good luck with your deal. Hope the dealer treats you fairly and I'm sure you can easily get $9500 off MSRP because their bread and butter sales are always E350 and not the E450.
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If a dealership uses black book for a trade in value I usually stay away from those dealership. Black book grossly undervalues the trade in value across the board. I went to KBB and took a screenshot of their trade in value, brought it to the dealership just in case they low ball you. But in my case the dealerships first and only offer was $28500 and they explained that if the tires were newer they would've given me $29500 for it.
Mercedes loses so much value as soon as you drive off the dealer lot that you never recoup the real value.
Good luck with your deal. Hope the dealer treats you fairly and I'm sure you can easily get $9500 off MSRP because their bread and butter sales are always E350 and not the E450.
Mercedes loses so much value as soon as you drive off the dealer lot that you never recoup the real value.
Good luck with your deal. Hope the dealer treats you fairly and I'm sure you can easily get $9500 off MSRP because their bread and butter sales are always E350 and not the E450.
