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Old Mar 7, 2025 | 04:10 PM
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I've had various brands of formatted exFAT USB drives where one will work and another won't. IMO the problem was caused by how each drive was partitioned.
Noted in the Operator's Guide for my car is a note:
Due to the wide range of USB devices available on the market, playback cannot be guaranteed for all USB devices.
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Old Mar 7, 2025 | 04:31 PM
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I've had various brands of formatted exFAT USB drives where one will work and another won't. IMO the problem was caused by how each drive was partitioned.
Noted in the Operator's Guide for my car is a note:
Doubtful, but possible. Most USB thumb drives are partitioned by the manufacturer and are not typically partitioned by the end user unless they have a specific need to. The reason for many USB drive failures is that many are cheep and have poor quality control. Some even are fake and are much lower capacity then they claim to be. One must be very careful when buying USB thumb drives and should stick to mainstream name brands. Still not a guarantee, but less likely to be a problem over white label or no name brands.

The operator guide about USB drives is more a disclaimer due to the wide variety of junk USB drives sold as well as the unknown sizes that may come out in the future that are not explicitly supported. It's their way of saying YMMV.
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I would seriously doubt it. The way a storage partition is formatted is not OS specific meaning exFAT is the same regardless of OS.

BTW, I don't own a Mac, but I thought Macs cannot write to NTFS partitions. I didn't think they can even format a partition in NTFS. I could be wrong though.
So while the NTFS worked great, it wasn't all wine and roses. I do own a Mac but I was able to use a third party utility to format one of my SanDisk thumb drives to NTFS (that was sort of a pain). Great first step, but the Mercedes Download Manager would not write to the NTFS drive (it saw the drive but would not let me write to it).

Sort of funny, I had downloaded the new maps version 11.0 (full US and Canada) onto another drive that was formatted exFat (and had previously worked just fine on my car when I downloaded Version 10.2) - so I copied those files from the exFat thumb drive onto the NTFS thumb drive. I thought for sure that would not work. But the files moved from one thumb drive to the next and when I plugged the NTFS drive into the car, the 11.0 version immediately loaded into the car. So it's all good now but I'm still shaking my head about it.

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Old Mar 7, 2025 | 04:41 PM
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So while the NTFS worked great, it wasn't all wine and roses. I do own a Mac but I was able to use a third party utility to format one of my SanDisk thumb drives to NTFS (that was sort of a pain). Great first step, but the Mercedes Download Manager would not write to the NTFS drive (it saw the drive but would not let me write to it).

Sort of funny, I had downloaded the new maps version 11.0 (full US and Canada) onto another drive that was formatted exFat (and had previously worked just fine on my car when I downloaded Version 10.2) - so I copied those files from the exFat thumb drive onto the NTFS thumb drive. I thought for sure that would not work. But the files moved from one thumb drive to the next and when I plugged the NTFS drive into the car, the 11.0 version immediately loaded into the car. So it's all good now but I'm still shaking my head about it.

And many thanks to Lapchien!
Was it a different physical thumb drive from the one that failed to start the update?
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Was it a different physical thumb drive from the one that failed to start the update?
The drive that failed to load 11.0 was the same, exact drive that worked perfectly for 10.2 (PNY brand). Downloading maps was the only thing I ever used that drive for and I had only used it for 10.2. I erased and reformatted the drive again prior to loading 11.0 onto it and it then did not work. And when it did not work I reformatted it again, each time as exFAT.

So then I bought a new drive (SanDisk) and formatted that one as exFAT and it also did not work.

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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Doubtful, but possible. Most USB thumb drives are partitioned by the manufacturer and are not typically partitioned by the end user unless they have a specific need to.
My point exactly! I have more than a hundred generic 1 GB USB drives that I've accumulated over the years from from doctors and dentists. They are small and cheap, cost less than $1 in bulk, but available in 20 unit quantities for $1.66 each from
Amazon Amazon
. Some worked right away while others required formatting.
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Originally Posted by beechcamp
So while the NTFS worked great, it wasn't all wine and roses. I do own a Mac but I was able to use a third party utility to format one of my SanDisk thumb drives to NTFS (that was sort of a pain). Great first step, but the Mercedes Download Manager would not write to the NTFS drive (it saw the drive but would not let me write to it).

Sort of funny, I had downloaded the new maps version 11.0 (full US and Canada) onto another drive that was formatted exFat (and had previously worked just fine on my car when I downloaded Version 10.2) - so I copied those files from the exFat thumb drive onto the NTFS thumb drive. I thought for sure that would not work. But the files moved from one thumb drive to the next and when I plugged the NTFS drive into the car, the 11.0 version immediately loaded into the car. So it's all good now but I'm still shaking my head about it.

And many thanks to Lapchien!
Ya the NTFS format happened on Windows according to forum member Lapchien.
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Old Mar 7, 2025 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Doubtful, but possible. Most USB thumb drives are partitioned by the manufacturer and are not typically partitioned by the end user unless they have a specific need to. The reason for many USB drive failures is that many are cheep and have poor quality control. Some even are fake and are much lower capacity then they claim to be. One must be very careful when buying USB thumb drives and should stick to mainstream name brands. Still not a guarantee, but less likely to be a problem over white label or no name brands.

The operator guide about USB drives is more a disclaimer due to the wide variety of junk USB drives sold as well as the unknown sizes that may come out in the future that are not explicitly supported. It's their way of saying YMMV.
You also don't want to buy cheap USB devices that might have poor voltage(?) control, damaging the vehicle as well although a fuse might jump to protect the vehicle. An exteme example is usb killer. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_killer
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
I would seriously doubt it. The way a storage partition is formatted is not OS specific meaning exFAT is the same regardless of OS.


I would also doubt this since it's unlikely that MB would remove support for exFAT, but anything is possible. If anything, it would be more likely, but still doubtful, to drop support for NTFS. It's older and has less support across devices. NTFS is better for security and fixed disk storage devices that need to control access, but is not a typical choice for USB thumb drives that often do not need the extra overhead for a temporary and portable storage medium. The exFAT file system is the better choice for removable storage in most of the typical use cases.

My MBUX version is E262.3-4975 and has been the same since I bought the car in August.

BTW, I don't own a Mac, but I thought Macs cannot write to NTFS partitions. I didn't think they can even format a partition in NTFS. I could be wrong though.
I see, both of your explanations make sense.
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