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According to Autocar, the E53 sedan has a curb weight of 4,928 lbs. And according to MB's German site, the wagon is 100 lbs more (they only list gross weights). So about the same as a current RS6. If true in final US-spec, not bad...and a LOT less than the M5.
M5 competes with the E 63 though, although that is not quite available yet. I mean, both of which you know already.
Edmunds claims it will have rear-axle steering as standard -- something the current AT does not have. That, and the lack of plastic on the fenders makes it interesting to me... It looks really nice!
M5 competes with the E 63 though, although that is not quite available yet. I mean, both of which you know already.
I’m considering all wagons available this year (except for the RS6 GT; not at all what I’m looking for in a wagon), new and used…so the only E63 would be W213. Which I still adore.
Edmunds claims it will have rear-axle steering as standard -- something the current AT does not have. That, and the lack of plastic on the fenders makes it interesting to me... It looks really nice!
I’m considering all wagons available this year (except for the RS6 GT; not at all what I’m looking for in a wagon), new and used…so the only E63 would be W213. Which I still adore.
Yup, as they get rarer and rarer, everything that is still a wagon is worth checking out (as there aren't many options left).
My dealer mentioned the E53 wagon was coming when I picked up my 2025 AT, and he said he could probably work out an early lease return on my AT if I wanted to swap to the E53 wagon. Will wait for the reviews, but I'm generally not a fan of hybrids.
According to Autocar, the E53 sedan has a curb weight of 4,928 lbs. And according to MB's German site, the wagon is 100 lbs more (they only list gross weights). So about the same as a current RS6. If true in final US-spec, not bad...and a LOT less than the M5.
In case of the GLE450e, which is essentially a (GLE350 + Plug-in hardware), the increase in weight is 838 lbs over the mild-hybrid GLE350.
If the Plug-in E53's weight increase is only 453 lbs over the E450 AT. (5028 lbs vs 4575 lbs), despite the additional Plug-in hardware, I suspect the electric range is probably limited, with the usage of smaller batteries.
Who knows maybe the doors would open wider on the e53 wagon and that would solve the issue I have getting in my 2025 all terrain wagon. Although I doubt it’s it’s probably just the new design of the 214 body style. I miss my 2019 e450 wagon in that way. I might be sorry o got the e53 though with the rougher ride on bumpy New England roads.
More information about the E53 AMG Wagon https://www.mercedes-amg.com/en/e-class-estate Not sure still if this will be a special order car like the E63 Wagon. If there's one I can look at when they come out near my local dealer I may price out the difference on a trade in of my All Terrain. I can imagine I'd take quite a loss selling my All Terrain within a year, but who knows what affect Tariffs and other market forces are going to have by the time this car comes out later this year. I like the fact there is not that plastic cladding, the body just looks cleaner. Sticker on my car was 90K, I can imagine this E53 wagon would be 110K or so, 20K difference there, I got a decent discount on my All Terrain of 9K, but I can imagine I might loose double that in depreciation within the first year, so probably be looking at my 2025 E450 plus 30 to 40K, I dunno if it would be worth it. There is the uncertainty of the crazy US markets with relation to cars built outside the USA, Who knows what things might be like by September 2025 which I suspect is around the time this model might be released to the US market.
If the primary issue is the plastic cladding, you should drop by the local Mercedes collision center and ask what it would take to have the cladding removed... to expose those beautiful metal fenders below! Here is a picture that suggests there are no holes in the metal quarter panel, but maybe some holes in the plastic fender:
Wheel Arch Cover - Mercedes-Benz (2148804100)
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I am pretty certain that body colored fenders are available in Europe. Should not cost a lot to get them, and replace the black fenders of the US AT with those, if this is important enough for you. Certainly cheaper than 30K !
If the primary issue is the plastic cladding, you should drop by the local Mercedes collision center and ask what it would take to have the cladding removed... to expose those beautiful metal fenders below! Here is a picture that suggests there are no holes in the metal quarter panel, but maybe some holes in the plastic fender:
Wheel Arch Cover - Mercedes-Benz (2148804100)
Originally Posted by Roweraay
I am pretty certain that body colored fenders are available in Europe. Should not cost a lot to get them, and replace the black fenders of the US AT with those, if this is important enough for you. Certainly cheaper than 30K !
More information about the E53 AMG Wagon https://www.mercedes-amg.com/en/e-class-estate Not sure still if this will be a special order car like the E63 Wagon. If there's one I can look at when they come out near my local dealer I may price out the difference on a trade in of my All Terrain. I can imagine I'd take quite a loss selling my All Terrain within a year, but who knows what affect Tariffs and other market forces are going to have by the time this car comes out later this year. I like the fact there is not that plastic cladding, the body just looks cleaner. Sticker on my car was 90K, I can imagine this E53 wagon would be 110K or so, 20K difference there, I got a decent discount on my All Terrain of 9K, but I can imagine I might loose double that in depreciation within the first year, so probably be looking at my 2025 E450 plus 30 to 40K, I dunno if it would be worth it. There is the uncertainty of the crazy US markets with relation to cars built outside the USA, Who knows what things might be like by September 2025 which I suspect is around the time this model might be released to the US market.
If it comes out as a 2025 model year, at least you save on the tariffs. Sadly it seems to be a 2026 model year so there are those tariffs as well. Hopefully things work out by then.
Coming from a W213 wagon, I wasn't a fan of the plastic cladding when the AT was first introduced. I would still prefer no cladding if given the option. But I'm on my second AT now, and I don't mind it anymore. I ordered a graphite grey AT for my first AT to have the cladding blend in with the paint. But I went with nautical blue for my second AT and I think it works.
Coming from a W213 wagon, I wasn't a fan of the plastic cladding when the AT was first introduced. I would still prefer no cladding if given the option. But I'm on my second AT now, and I don't mind it anymore. I ordered a graphite grey AT for my first AT to have the cladding blend in with the paint. But I went with nautical blue for my second AT and I think it works.
Yes it is very apparent on light colours, people kept comparing this car to a Subaru or Mazda CX-30 in my area but I don't think that is fair, the W214 All-terrian looks better in almost everyway even with the cladding.
I still don’t get why MB even came out with the whole All Terrain concept. You put the car in off road mode and it goes up about an inch. Still super low and not suitable for off road. You look at all the instrument readings in off road mode on the screen angle of descent and all and you’d think this car was capable of exploring the amazon forest lol.
I still don’t get why MB even came out with the whole All Terrain concept. You put the car in off road mode and it goes up about an inch. Still super low and not suitable for off road. You look at all the instrument readings in off road mode on the screen angle of descent and all and you’d think this car was capable of exploring the amazon forest lol.
I guess they are trying to attract SUV buyers? Do people buy SUVs for the ride height?
I still don’t get why MB even came out with the whole All Terrain concept. You put the car in off road mode and it goes up about an inch. Still super low and not suitable for off road. You look at all the instrument readings in off road mode on the screen angle of descent and all and you’d think this car was capable of exploring the amazon forest lol.
The 2025 All-Terrain is my 2nd All-Terrain, with the 2022 being my first.
I sold the 2022 to my brother, at which time I already had a 2024 GLE450. After driving the GLE450 for around 5 months, I went back and got another All-Terrain (the 2025), despite the financial bath I took when I traded in the 5-month old GLE450.
Despite all of the above, I agree that MB needs to go further on the "All-Terrain" concept. Just putting on a bit of plastic fender cladding and raising the ride-height of the E-wagon by around 2 inches (to 6.2 inches minimum height), and calling it a day, is a weak move from an engineering powerhouse like Mercedes. The 214 generation is near identical to the 213 generation, in terms of staying exactly the same, from an "All Terrain" concept perspective, instead of taking it to the next level.
PS: I am truly glad that Mercedes at least offers a wagon alternative to people like myself, who like the practicality of a hatch-backed body style, without the ponderousness of driving something like a GLE.
The 2025 All-Terrain is my 2nd All-Terrain, with the 2022 being my first.
I sold the 2022 to my brother, at which time I already had a 2024 GLE450. After driving the GLE450 for around 5 months, I went back and got another All-Terrain (the 2025), despite the financial bath I took when I traded in the 5-month old GLE450.
Despite all of the above, I agree that MB needs to go further on the "All-Terrain" concept. Just putting on a bit of plastic fender cladding and raising the ride-height of the E-wagon by around 2 inches (to 6.2 inches minimum height), and calling it a day, is a weak move from an engineering powerhouse like Mercedes. The 214 generation is near identical to the 213 generation, in terms of staying exactly the same, from an "All Terrain" concept perspective, instead of taking it to the next level.
PS: I am truly glad that Mercedes at least offers a wagon alternative to people like myself, who like the practicality of a hatch-backed body style, without the ponderousness of driving something like a GLE.
What are the main likes and dislikes of both models? I can tell you like the all-terrain more but what completed the decision for you?
What are the main likes and dislikes of both models? I can tell you like the all-terrain more but what completed the decision for you?
The GLE450, even with the "450" drive-train, felt ponderous and lethargic to me, vis-a-vis the All-terrain. Just looking at the GLE in isolation, it is a great product, but when the All-Terrain is compared against it, it does not match up.
The All-Terrain had comparable space (longer space, but not as tall as the GLE). Interestingly, the hatch area of the All-Terrain, despite being less tall, has slightly more cargo space than the GLE, due to the rear cargo area of the All-Terrain being several inches deeper than the GLE. But the GLE in turn has gobs more space in the rear passenger area, with several additional inches of legroom.
The All-Terrain I feel had FAR better handling, was agile, quick on its feet, quicker steering (from the seats-of-my-pants feel) and overall felt like a better product, vis-a-vis the GLE. And despite all that, we are talking about barely 425lbs weight difference (5000lbs for the GLE450 vs 4575lbs for the All-Terrain) between the two cars, for such a drastic difference in overall feel. 4.4secs 0-60 for the All-Terrain, vs 5.6 secs for the GLE450, tells a story.
The GLE450, even with the "450" drive-train, felt ponderous and lethargic to me, vis-a-vis the All-terrain. Just looking at the GLE in isolation, it is a great product, but when the All-Terrain is compared against it, it does not match up.
The All-Terrain had comparable space (longer space, but not as tall as the GLE). Interestingly, the hatch area of the All-Terrain, despite being less tall, has slightly more cargo space than the GLE, due to the rear cargo area of the All-Terrain being several inches deeper than the GLE. But the GLE in turn has gobs more space in the rear passenger area, with several additional inches of legroom.
The All-Terrain I feel had FAR better handling, was agile, quick on its feet, quicker steering (from the seats-of-my-pants feel) and overall felt like a better product, vis-a-vis the GLE. And despite all that, we are talking about barely 425lbs weight difference (5000lbs for the GLE450 vs 4575lbs for the All-Terrain) between the two cars, for such a drastic difference in overall feel. 4.4secs 0-60 for the All-Terrain, vs 5.6 secs for the GLE450, tells a story.
Appreciate the comparison, no reviewers ever mentioned this, only actual owners will notice things like these, thank you again. I did hear the W214 has less legroom (in the front) compared to the W213 though, although it sounds like the W214 has more legroom as well?
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