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I wonder if this 2026 e53 wagon will be available in the USA ?

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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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All terrain is a great car really liking mine I just wished they had skipped the plastic cladding and kept calling it the e450 wagon.
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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I did hear the W214 has less legroom (in the front) compared to the W213 though, although it sounds like the W214 has more legroom as well?
I think the (front + rear) legroom or the overall legroom is what matters, since the front seats can be moved up or backward. My understanding is that the W214 increased the overall legroom by an inch or so, over the W213, with the wheelbase increasing by a roughly equal amount. Since I don't use the rear-seats as much, this does not affect me very much.

The GLE in turn has at least 3-4 inches of additional legroom over the W214, and those additional inches added to the legroom, is lost by the GLE in the rear cargo space's depth. Both cars have roughly the same length. I use the cargo area everyday, for my dog-crate, while I rarely use the rear-seats.
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I think the (front + rear) legroom or the overall legroom is what matters, since the front seats can be moved up or backward. My understanding is that the W214 increased the overall legroom by an inch or so, over the W213, with the wheelbase increasing by a roughly equal amount. Since I don't use the rear-seats as much, this does not affect me very much.

The GLE in turn has at least 3-4 inches of additional legroom over the W214, and those additional inches added to the legroom, is lost by the GLE in the rear cargo space's depth. Both cars have roughly the same length. I use the cargo area everyday, for my dog-crate, while I rarely use the rear-seats.
Naturally, I do expect leg room to increase every new generation because the vehicle keeps on growing bigger but this forum member said the W214 has less leg room than the W213 in the front at least, probably because of the dash and screen. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post9091753
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Naturally, I do expect leg room to increase every new generation because the vehicle keeps on growing bigger but this forum member said the W214 has less leg room than the W213 in the front at least, probably because of the dash and screen. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post9091753
I believe the difference is in how the dash encroaches on the knee area and the wider center console takes away from the overall leg room width in the W214 more than in the W213. This gives the overall feeling of less leg room even if there is more front to back. I also noticed this coming from my W212. In my case, at 6'1" I don't have an issue and a 6' adult can easily sit behind my seat in the W214. Interestingly, my wife who is 5'6" likes to move her seat nearly all the way back which leaves only a few inches behind her. She can't even reach the inclined part of the foot well with her feet, but she likes it that way. If we have someone in the back seat, she moves it forward to a more normal position for her height. Her complaint is that she is too close to the dash, but she is used to driving in a Dodge Durango with a lot more space between the seat and dash.
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Naturally, I do expect leg room to increase every new generation because the vehicle keeps on growing bigger but this forum member said the W214 has less leg room than the W213 in the front at least, probably because of the dash and screen. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post9091753
I did a quick check and the W213 and the W214 seem to have identical front and rear legroom. I had assumed that the W214 had added an inch. To be quite honest, for a next generation re-design, I would have expected at least a few more inches to be added. The W214 did add an inch of additional shoulder room over the W213, from what I could see. A Honda Accord in comparison (Front-wheel platform obviously is more space efficient inside), has around 6 inches of additional legroom, over the E-class.

I also noticed that the fuel tank capacity came down from 21.1 gallons in the W213 All-Terrain, to 17.4 gallons in the W214 All-Terrain. So some range loss there.

If I am a 2022/2023 W213 owner, I would keep driving my car, rather than "upgrading" to a W214. Unless you are moving up to a higher end model.


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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 01:08 AM
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I generally feel the same way as L1Wolf, but more German wagon options in the US is only a good thing for German wagon fans. Been searching for a W213 E63 to replace my AT, but nice to have something else to consider; the W214 AT just is not an upgrade IMO.
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
All terrain is a great car really liking mine I just wished they had skipped the plastic cladding and kept calling it the e450 wagon.
That's a different version, available on Europe - the "normal" E wagon.
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mykel79
That's a different version, available on Europe - the "normal" E wagon.
Ya in Europe they can coexist, MBUSA decided one model is enough.
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
I believe the difference is in how the dash encroaches on the knee area and the wider center console takes away from the overall leg room width in the W214 more than in the W213. This gives the overall feeling of less leg room even if there is more front to back. I also noticed this coming from my W212. In my case, at 6'1" I don't have an issue and a 6' adult can easily sit behind my seat in the W214. Interestingly, my wife who is 5'6" likes to move her seat nearly all the way back which leaves only a few inches behind her. She can't even reach the inclined part of the foot well with her feet, but she likes it that way. If we have someone in the back seat, she moves it forward to a more normal position for her height. Her complaint is that she is too close to the dash, but she is used to driving in a Dodge Durango with a lot more space between the seat and dash.
Ya it does make it feel more cramped but that screen looks good. I guess it is a compromise.
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I did a quick check and the W213 and the W214 seem to have identical front and rear legroom. I had assumed that the W214 had added an inch. To be quite honest, for a next generation re-design, I would have expected at least a few more inches to be added. The W214 did add an inch of additional shoulder room over the W213, from what I could see. A Honda Accord in comparison (Front-wheel platform obviously is more space efficient inside), has around 6 inches of additional legroom, over the E-class.

I also noticed that the fuel tank capacity came down from 21.1 gallons in the W213 All-Terrain, to 17.4 gallons in the W214 All-Terrain. So some range loss there.

If I am a 2022/2023 W213 owner, I would keep driving my car, rather than "upgrading" to a W214. Unless you are moving up to a higher end model.
Something I naturally assumed as well given the grow in wheelbase. I guess that screen and dash does take up some space or at least it feels like it.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 05:05 PM
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I read that, they will be bringing the e53 wagon to the US. They have already certified the All Terrain which is essentially the same vehicle, body structure etc. No pricing at this point though.
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 09:18 PM
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^ Yes, it's coming...someone included a link to the MBUSA press release near the top of the thread. 2025 E53 sedan pricing/configurator is on the MBUSA site...2026 wagon will most likely be a bit more.

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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 10:07 PM
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^ Yes, it's coming...someone included a link to the MBUSA press release near the top of the thread. 2025 E53 sedan pricing/configurator is on the MBUSA site...2026 wagon will most likely be a bit more.
I think it will be priced between the All Terrain wagon and the E63 wagon pricing from last year. I hear we'll see an E63 eventually. So maybe base price of $90K
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Old Apr 20, 2025 | 12:30 PM
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I also noticed that the fuel tank capacity came down from 21.1 gallons in the W213 All-Terrain, to 17.4 gallons in the W214 All-Terrain.
I believe the reason they reduced the fuel tank capacity by almost 4 gallons in the W214, vis-a-vis the W213, was to use the space to accomodate the Electric hardware that comes on the W214 PHEV versions, like the E53 etc. So instead of developing bespoke versions of fuel tanks for the PHEV vs the non-PHEV E-classes, they just developed a single version that works for both PHEV and non-PHEV, and thus short-changed the non-PHEV versions, with lower capacity vis-a-vis the W213 cars.

https://www.mbusa.com/en/vehicles/mo...s/sedan/e53ew4

As per the above, the E53 also gets 17.4 gallons fuel tank capacity, just like the E450. The E450 in turn does not have all of the PHEV electric crap added on, but got short-changed with the fuel tank that comes on the E53, which has all of the PHEV hardware added in. I for sure would not have minded an additional 4 gallons of fuel in the E450's tank, since I don't have to drag along 500lbs of additional electric hardware, which compromises the trunk space, in addition to the aforementioned short-changing of the fuel tank capacity (and God knows what other compromises lurk underneath, due to the addition of the electric stuff).


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Originally Posted by Roweraay
I believe the reason they reduced the fuel tank capacity by almost 4 gallons in the W214, vis-a-vis the W213, was to use the space to accomodate the Electric hardware that comes on the W214 PHEV versions, like the E53 etc. So instead of developing bespoke versions of fuel tanks for the PHEV vs the non-PHEV E-classes, they just developed a single version that works for both PHEV and non-PHEV, and thus short-changed the non-PHEV versions, with lower capacity vis-a-vis the W213 cars.

https://www.mbusa.com/en/vehicles/mo...s/sedan/e53ew4

As per the above, the E53 also gets 17.4 gallons fuel tank capacity, just like the E450. The E450 in turn does not have all of the PHEV electric crap added on, but got short-changed with the fuel tank that comes on the E53, which has all of the PHEV hardware added in. I for sure would not have minded an additional 4 gallons of fuel in the E450's tank, since I don't have to drag along 500lbs of additional electric hardware, which compromises the trunk space, in addition to the aforementioned short-changing of the fuel tank capacity (and God knows what other compromises lurk underneath, due to the addition of the electric stuff).
Before the modern assembly plant, I would agree. Today, it's quite easy to have different parts for cars on the same assembly line. The E-Class is made on the same line as the S-Class and EQS models. If they can have that variation with cars literally right next to each other on the same line, they can have a different fuel tank based on the version of E-Class. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I doubt it's the reason.

More plausible to me is fuel efficiency. A smaller tank has less weight both in materials and the lower volume of fuel it can carry. Less weight translates into better fuel efficiency. It may not be much but every little bit helps them meet government regulations. I'm just guessing here and really don't know why myself. I would have preferred to have the larger tank. As with any business, every decision boils down to maximizing profits and minimizing loss and risk.
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Before the modern assembly plant, I would agree. Today, it's quite easy to have different parts for cars on the same assembly line. The E-Class is made on the same line as the S-Class and EQS models. If they can have that variation with cars literally right next to each other on the same line, they can have a different fuel tank based on the version of E-Class. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I doubt it's the reason.

More plausible to me is fuel efficiency. A smaller tank has less weight both in materials and the lower volume of fuel it can carry. Less weight translates into better fuel efficiency. It may not be much but every little bit helps them meet government regulations. I'm just guessing here and really don't know why myself. I would have preferred to have the larger tank. As with any business, every decision boils down to maximizing profits and minimizing loss and risk.
I think the theme of my post was cost-cutting being the real reason. Instead of multiple part#s (design, manufacturing, testing and finally stocking/logistics), they consolidated into a single part#. This is no favor to their customers, or anything to do with weight reduction. There are plenty of such signs of cost-cutting throughout the W214, but i am beating a dead horse here.

The below is my first fill-up, with no break-in miles in it. The prior fill-up had a bit of break-in miles (constantly varying RPMs while keeping it under 3K rpm), and thus I did not count that, but that too was around 28.2mpg. This was 28.4 (Premium gas, "Comfort" drive-mode, Auto-start/stop switched OFF all the time, 20% city stop-and-go/80% rural highways). I think if it is put into the "E" (Eco) mode, the mileage will shoot up by at least 6-7mpg. And of course with Stop/Start turned on, maybe another 1mpg or so, is a guess.



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Sort of trashes the idea that you need a 4 cylinder to improve gas mileage. This inline 6 with e-assist is a marvelous power plant. Sounds great too IMO.
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Originally Posted by TulsaVic
Sort of trashes the idea that you need a 4 cylinder to improve gas mileage. This inline 6 with e-assist is a marvelous power plant. Sounds great too IMO.
Sounds great is a good bonus.
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