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Old Apr 16, 2025 | 07:15 PM
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I want a more comfortable ride. I like the current iteration of the E450 wagon and enjoyed the test drive. The only thing keeping from getting one is the rather numerous electrical problems reported on this forum. I asked my local dealer about it and I was told a wiring harness was too close to the drive train. This has been fixed and I should not experience any problems. Any info on this and are there relatively fewer electrical problems in the 2025s?
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Old Apr 16, 2025 | 08:05 PM
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I have about 3000 miles on my 2025, and knock on wood all is good. So far I love the car.
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Old Apr 16, 2025 | 08:58 PM
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I have around 1300 miles on mine, and absolutely zero problems till date, electrical or otherwise. I had the 2022 E450 All-Terrain wagon prior to this (sold to my brother) and that too was absolutely spotless from a reliability perspective, over the course of over 30K+ miles and over 2+ years.
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Old Apr 16, 2025 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mid9
I want a more comfortable ride. I like the current iteration of the E450 wagon and enjoyed the test drive. The only thing keeping from getting one is the rather numerous electrical problems reported on this forum. I asked my local dealer about it and I was told a wiring harness was too close to the drive train. This has been fixed and I should not experience any problems. Any info on this and are there relatively fewer electrical problems in the 2025s?
Forum issues are amplified, people rarely post a thread complaining of their car having no issues, so the focus when posting on a forum is to solve an issue.
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Old Apr 17, 2025 | 12:56 AM
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I've posted about the "amplification" of issues discussed here before. Many forum members come here because they have an issue as evidence by their first post being about some issue they have. The vast majority of owners likely don't even know about this forum and may be problem free without any indication found here. The end result is that us forum members see a higher number of reported issues that is not likely a true representation of the overall population of cars. I'm not saying there are or are not common issues, but I dont believe this forum is valid representation one way or another.

That said, I as well as many others on this forum have not had any significant issues and we all hope it stays that way. It's likely more common to not have an issue, but I'm sure the folks that do would not feel the same.
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Old Apr 17, 2025 | 06:22 AM
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Thanks for your replies. I do understand about forums amplifying problems. My concern was the length of some of the threads concerning electrical problems in the new Es.
I am glad your cars are trouble free and the lack of negative replies to this thread reinforces the reliability of the E.
Thanks again.
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Old Apr 17, 2025 | 08:09 AM
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I've posted about the "amplification" of issues discussed here before. Many forum members come here because they have an issue as evidence by their first post being about some issue they have. The vast majority of owners likely don't even know about this forum and may be problem free without any indication found here. The end result is that us forum members see a higher number of reported issues that is not likely a true representation of the overall population of cars. I'm not saying there are or are not common issues, but I dont believe this forum is valid representation one way or another.

That said, I as well as many others on this forum have not had any significant issues and we all hope it stays that way. It's likely more common to not have an issue, but I'm sure the folks that do would not feel the same.
MB is probably a less enthusiast brand than competitors like bmw for example. I understand all of us here are enthusiasts though.
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Old Apr 17, 2025 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mid9
I want a more comfortable ride. I like the current iteration of the E450 wagon and enjoyed the test drive. The only thing keeping from getting one is the rather numerous electrical problems reported on this forum. I asked my local dealer about it and I was told a wiring harness was too close to the drive train. This has been fixed and I should not experience any problems. Any info on this and are there relatively fewer electrical problems in the 2025s?

Do not forget, we, here on this site are the less than 1% of the less than 1%. Many folks here never learn to use their car...then complain about "bugs and issues". 99% of owners never comment on any forum, let alone this one.
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I almost wonder if it could be true with the electrical issues. My car does weird things off and on. I just did a 1450 mile trip and realized these things are gonna need to be checked out at the dealer the first maintainence which is coming up soon. The distronic cruise drives me nuts. A lot of the time it starts pinging right she. Tv steering wheel comes up on the screen. Sometimes but rare if works as it should. The screen with the steering wheel should I’ll image with no pinging and you have some time to touch the steering wheel at which point the.car is suppose to be ok for a while. Sometimes even when I have both hands on the steering wheel it pings and cuts off the audio. If mb intentislly made the distronic this sensitive a lot of people are gonna get frusterated and never buy another Benz. The other thing I notice is I need to hit the cruise control set sometimes 3 or 4 times before it actually comes on. Same goes for the seat controls. The buttons are sluggish. This perhaps could have something to do with the drivers door popper not working when it’s swiped. The three other door poppers work fine.
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
I almost wonder if it could be true with the electrical issues. My car does weird things off and on. I just did a 1450 mile trip and realized these things are gonna need to be checked out at the dealer the first maintainence which is coming up soon. The distronic cruise drives me nuts. A lot of the time it starts pinging right she. Tv steering wheel comes up on the screen. Sometimes but rare if works as it should. The screen with the steering wheel should I’ll image with no pinging and you have some time to touch the steering wheel at which point the.car is suppose to be ok for a while. Sometimes even when I have both hands on the steering wheel it pings and cuts off the audio. If mb intentislly made the distronic this sensitive a lot of people are gonna get frusterated and never buy another Benz. The other thing I notice is I need to hit the cruise control set sometimes 3 or 4 times before it actually comes on. Same goes for the seat controls. The buttons are sluggish. This perhaps could have something to do with the drivers door popper not working when it’s swiped. The three other door poppers work fine.
Are you by any chance wearing gloves? All the problems you describe would happen if the car isn't registering touch properly, including the pinging during cruise control.
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No gloves. It’s strange with the distronic. It just starts making pining sounds and won’t shut up. Very annoying. It’s as if I’m wearing gloves though. Like I said sometimes both hands on the wheel and cutting on and off the music and ping ping ping. This can’t be normal. I find myself not using distronic because of this.
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
No gloves. It’s strange with the distronic. It just starts making pining sounds and won’t shut up. Very annoying. It’s as if I’m wearing gloves though. Like I said sometimes both hands on the wheel and cutting on and off the music and ping ping ping. This can’t be normal. I find myself not using distronic because of this.
Many of these problems get solved “magically”, when the MBUX gets re-loaded, and you need to get it done by the dealer.

I had a problem with my wired/wireless Apple CarPlay dropping intermittently in my 2024 GLE450, which was completely resolved when they loaded the latest MBUX into the car……the whole update process took over 3 hours, which means it was an absolutely massive update.
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
No gloves. It’s strange with the distronic. It just starts making pining sounds and won’t shut up. Very annoying. It’s as if I’m wearing gloves though. Like I said sometimes both hands on the wheel and cutting on and off the music and ping ping ping. This can’t be normal. I find myself not using distronic because of this.
It would seem some is wrong with your specific car. None of that is normal. I've driven 6K miles in a 2024 and now 10K miles in a 2025 E and have never had these or any issues for that matter. One minor issue in the 2024 related to music. I've used driving gloves during the winter and still none of these issues. I have noticed from time to time if I have a very light touch on the wheel that the car will put the warning up with the chime to grab the wheel. All it takes is a little stronger of a grip and it goes away. Doesn't matter if I have cruise on or not. I would take my car into the dealership if I had these issues.
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Many of these problems get solved “magically”, when the MBUX gets re-loaded, and you need to get it done by the dealer.

I had a problem with my wired/wireless Apple CarPlay dropping intermittently in my 2024 GLE450, which was completely resolved when they loaded the latest MBUX into the car……the whole update process took over 3 hours, which means it was an absolutely massive update.
Any time MBUX is updated it takes 2 to 3 hours. Pretty normal actually. Glad an update resolved your issues. As much as people love to complain about too much high tech stuff in cars, it's pretty cool that many things can be resolved without ever turning a wrench.
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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
Any time MBUX is updated it takes 2 to 3 hours. Pretty normal actually. Glad an update resolved your issues. As much as people love to complain about too much high tech stuff in cars, it's pretty cool that many things can be resolved without ever turning a wrench.
Interestingly, the dealer (with the best techs in this part of the country) who do such updates for customers all the time, commented that they had never seen such a big update on any car.

When the dealer system hooks up directly to the MB system, a MBUX update takes around 15-20 mins (as per them), unlike say a customer downloading it and uploading it themselves. But when it kept on going for 3+ hours (direct dealer system to the MB system) they were all amazed at how massive an update it was.

PS: After I posted my experience on this forum, another forum member with his 2024 GLE63, facing the exact same problem as me on his Android Auto, got his MBUX upgrade done at his dealer, and the problem vanished without a trace.
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
Interestingly, the dealer (with the best techs in this part of the country) who do such updates for customers all the time, commented that they had never seen such a big update on any car.

When the dealer system hooks up directly to the MB system, a MBUX update takes around 15-20 mins (as per them), unlike say a customer downloading it and uploading it themselves. But when it kept on going for 3+ hours (direct dealer system to the MB system) they were all amazed at how massive an update it was.

PS: After I posted my experience on this forum, another forum member with his 2024 GLE63, facing the exact same problem as me on his Android Auto, got his MBUX upgrade done at his dealer, and the problem vanished without a trace.
Are there throttling with MB's servers?
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