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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 06:19 AM
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This is the last time I will attempt to explain to @JTK44

Hybrid Behavior Beyond EV Range

Even when the EV range display hits “0 miles,” the 2025 E53e’s battery is far from empty. Mercedes‑AMG deliberately holds back roughly 25 – 30 % of the battery’s charge as a performance reserve. In fact, out of the 28.6 kWh battery pack, only about 21.2 kWh is used for pure‑electric driving – the remaining energy is explicitly “reserved for electric boost during high‑performance driving,” according to Mercedes. In other words, “0 miles” of EV range simply means the car will no longer sustain continuous electric‑only propulsion, not that the battery has been drained to zero. There is ample charge left in the pack to support the hybrid system’s needs.

Crucially, the E53e’s electric motor continues to work full‑time beyond the EV range. It doesn’t become a dormant weight; instead it seamlessly provides torque‑fill and boost in tandem with the gasoline inline‑6, and keeps recuperating energy whenever you lift off the throttle or brake. Official AMG literature confirms that in the sportier drive modes the combustion engine stays on specifically to maximize assistance from the e‑motor. For example, Sport and Sport+ disable pure‑electric driving but enable an “intensified” or “even more powerful” boost effect. In RACE mode, the system calls upon the full 120 kW electric output to support the engine and dials up “strong recuperation when decelerating for maximum electrical availability.” In short, the hybrid control strategy always uses the battery’s remaining charge to enhance acceleration and responsiveness – even with 0 miles indicated, the e‑motor’s instant 480 Nm of torque is there to fill turbo lag, bolster low‑end power, and add bursts of acceleration whenever you demand it. The car effectively operates as a conventional hybrid at this stage, blending both power sources for optimal performance.

Because the battery is never truly “dead,” it also continues to bolster efficiency once EV range is exhausted. The E53e will still shut off its inline‑6 whenever possible – at idle, coasting, or low loads – and instantly restart it via the e‑motor when needed, just like any hybrid. Testers have noted that with the battery showing zero EV range, the E53e “drives like a hybridized E‑Class, shutting off the combustion engine whenever possible to save fuel.” Any energy recovered from braking is fed back into the battery to later propel the car or assist the engine. The result is that the battery is never a “dead weight” – it’s continuously working to either save or supply energy. Real‑world reviews report impressively good fuel economy even after the EV portion is depleted; one journalist observed roughly 23 MPG city and 29.5 MPG highway in a 600‑plus‑hp E53e with the battery pack run down. These figures would be nearly impossible without the hybrid system’s ongoing assistance. All of this is by design: the E53e’s plug‑in‑hybrid system always keeps a substantial charge buffer to ensure the battery can deliver its performance and efficiency benefits at all times, even when the car is no longer in EV‑only mode.

In summary, once the indicated electric range is spent, the E53e seamlessly transitions into a traditional hybrid driving pattern rather than becoming a heavy ICE‑only vehicle. The last ~25 % of the battery’s state of charge is strictly off‑limits for EV cruising and instead serves as a permanent power reserve. This means the electric motor is always at work – providing boost for quicker response, filling in torque gaps, and recapturing energy – and the engine can cycle off regularly to save fuel. Far from being “dead weight,” the battery continues to pull its weight for both performance and efficiency. Mercedes‑AMG documentation underlines this logic: “the electric machine will provide support to the combustion engine as needed” during all driving, or even propel the car alone when conditions allow. In essence, the E53e’s battery is never truly empty – it remains an integral, working part of the drivetrain beyond the EV range, ensuring you always benefit from electric torque and energy recovery in every mile you drive.
Battery Placement – Low and Balanced, Not a Trunk Anchor

Another misconception is about the battery’s location and its effect on handling. The E53e’s high‑voltage battery is not sitting high up in the trunk or robbing cargo space like a big suitcase. Instead, it’s mounted low in the chassis, underneath the trunk floor (just above and forward of the rear axle). This design keeps the weight down low and toward the car’s center, lowering the center of gravity and improving balance. Official specs and service info (ref. document P‑2374‑214‑25C) place the 400 V battery beneath the rear cargo floor, tightly integrated into the body structure. There is a slight trunk‑floor height increase (trunk volume is about 13.1 cu ft), but the pack’s forward‑low placement means it’s not swinging off the tail or raising the car’s center of mass.

The benefit of this layout is evident when driving. Weight carried down low and near the rear axle can actually help: reviewers observed the battery’s mass over the rear axle “helps plant the car” in corners. The car feels well‑planted rather than top‑heavy. By placing the battery centrally, Mercedes kept the front/rear weight distribution at roughly 47 / 53 % – impressively balanced for a front‑engine sedan. This contributes to stable, predictable handling. Far from being a liability, the battery’s placement improves stability and traction. The E53e also features active rear‑axle steering and adaptive suspension, which together with the low battery position make the car remarkably agile for its size. One test driver noted the E53 corners so flat and composed that the rear‑wheel steering “disguises its 5,100‑lb curb weight” around bends. There’s no sense of a top‑heavy load; the car’s chassis tuning and weight distribution keep it feeling like a proper AMG sport sedan.
Weight and Handling – AMG Engineering Hides the Mass

It’s true that the E53e, with its hybrid components, is heavier than a standard E‑Class or the old E63. Independent testing measured 5,309 lb – about 800 lb more than the previous‑generation E63 S. But AMG’s engineering prowess masks that weight and maintains performance. Instrumented tests bear this out:
  • 0 – 60 mph: 3.3 s (quicker than AMG’s own 3.7 – 3.8 s claim, and just 0.3 s off the lighter V8 E63’s time)
  • ¼ mile: 11.7 s @ 120 mph (only about half a second behind the last E63 S)
  • 60 – 0 mph braking: 102 ft (better than the lighter E63 S sedan’s 109 ft stop, thanks to strong regen plus big brakes)
  • Skidpad: 0.93 g lateral grip (solidly in sports‑sedan territory; only marginally below the prior E63’s ≈ 0.97 g)
  • Figure‑8 course: 24.1 s @ 0.84 g (again very close to the older V8’s performance)
These are super‑sedan numbers despite the car’s weight. In spirited driving, the E53e still feels every bit an AMG. The low‑slung battery, adaptive air suspension, and standard 4MATIC+ AWD with an electronic limited‑slip rear diff let the car put power down exceptionally well. Coming out of a corner, it “just sticks and goes” without drama. The battery’s location over the rear axle adds useful rear traction, and the trick diff can apportion torque to help rotate the car smoothly on throttle. As an owner who’s pushed the car hard, I can attest it hides its mass deftly – you feel the heft only in the most extreme transitions, and even then the E53e remains composed. AMG clearly tuned the chassis to mitigate any weight penalty, so it still delivers the agility we expect from the badge.
Conclusion: Confidence in AMG’s Hybrid Engineering

As an enthusiast and owner, I’ve been thoroughly impressed with the E53e’s engineering. Mercedes‑AMG answered every doubt with hard data and real‑world results. Yes, it’s a heavy car on paper, but that weight is strategically placed and expertly managed. The hybrid battery isn’t a handicap – it’s a performance enhancer and a key efficiency tool. The car delivers the thrilling acceleration, dynamic handling, and high‑tech sophistication expected of an AMG, while adding the benefits of electrification. Personally, I have zero reservations about the E53e’s weight or hybrid system after living with it. The way this machine can rip off a 3.3‑second 0–60 run, hug a corner, then quietly cruise in EV mode around town is a testament to AMG’s thoughtful design. It’s a no‑compromise solution to the plug‑in‑hybrid dilemma – not a half‑baked idea, but a well‑executed blend of performance and efficiency in one package. I remain very satisfied and confident in the E53e’s overall performance profile and engineering. Mercedes‑AMG set out to prove a plug‑in‑hybrid sedan could truly be an AMG, and from my perspective, they’ve absolutely succeeded.

Sources: Personal Experience; Mercedes‑AMG PHEV technical documentation and owner materials; MotorTrend testing and review of the 2025 AMG E53 Hybrid; InsideEVs first‑drive impressions; Official Mercedes‑Benz USA E53e product literature; Automoblog technical breakdown.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Avi8tor
This is the last time I will attempt to explain to @JTK44

Hybrid Behavior Beyond EV Range

Even when the EV range display hits “0 miles,” the 2025 E53e’s battery is far from empty. Mercedes‑AMG deliberately holds back roughly 25 – 30 % of the battery’s charge as a performance reserve. In fact, out of the 28.6 kWh battery pack, only about 21.2 kWh is used for pure‑electric driving – the remaining energy is explicitly “reserved for electric boost during high‑performance driving,” according to Mercedes. In other words, “0 miles” of EV range simply means the car will no longer sustain continuous electric‑only propulsion, not that the battery has been drained to zero. There is ample charge left in the pack to support the hybrid system’s needs.

Crucially, the E53e’s electric motor continues to work full‑time beyond the EV range. It doesn’t become a dormant weight; instead it seamlessly provides torque‑fill and boost in tandem with the gasoline inline‑6, and keeps recuperating energy whenever you lift off the throttle or brake. Official AMG literature confirms that in the sportier drive modes the combustion engine stays on specifically to maximize assistance from the e‑motor. For example, Sport and Sport+ disable pure‑electric driving but enable an “intensified” or “even more powerful” boost effect. In RACE mode, the system calls upon the full 120 kW electric output to support the engine and dials up “strong recuperation when decelerating for maximum electrical availability.” In short, the hybrid control strategy always uses the battery’s remaining charge to enhance acceleration and responsiveness – even with 0 miles indicated, the e‑motor’s instant 480 Nm of torque is there to fill turbo lag, bolster low‑end power, and add bursts of acceleration whenever you demand it. The car effectively operates as a conventional hybrid at this stage, blending both power sources for optimal performance.

Because the battery is never truly “dead,” it also continues to bolster efficiency once EV range is exhausted. The E53e will still shut off its inline‑6 whenever possible – at idle, coasting, or low loads – and instantly restart it via the e‑motor when needed, just like any hybrid. Testers have noted that with the battery showing zero EV range, the E53e “drives like a hybridized E‑Class, shutting off the combustion engine whenever possible to save fuel.” Any energy recovered from braking is fed back into the battery to later propel the car or assist the engine. The result is that the battery is never a “dead weight” – it’s continuously working to either save or supply energy. Real‑world reviews report impressively good fuel economy even after the EV portion is depleted; one journalist observed roughly 23 MPG city and 29.5 MPG highway in a 600‑plus‑hp E53e with the battery pack run down. These figures would be nearly impossible without the hybrid system’s ongoing assistance. All of this is by design: the E53e’s plug‑in‑hybrid system always keeps a substantial charge buffer to ensure the battery can deliver its performance and efficiency benefits at all times, even when the car is no longer in EV‑only mode.

In summary, once the indicated electric range is spent, the E53e seamlessly transitions into a traditional hybrid driving pattern rather than becoming a heavy ICE‑only vehicle. The last ~25 % of the battery’s state of charge is strictly off‑limits for EV cruising and instead serves as a permanent power reserve. This means the electric motor is always at work – providing boost for quicker response, filling in torque gaps, and recapturing energy – and the engine can cycle off regularly to save fuel. Far from being “dead weight,” the battery continues to pull its weight for both performance and efficiency. Mercedes‑AMG documentation underlines this logic: “the electric machine will provide support to the combustion engine as needed” during all driving, or even propel the car alone when conditions allow. In essence, the E53e’s battery is never truly empty – it remains an integral, working part of the drivetrain beyond the EV range, ensuring you always benefit from electric torque and energy recovery in every mile you drive.
Battery Placement – Low and Balanced, Not a Trunk Anchor

Another misconception is about the battery’s location and its effect on handling. The E53e’s high‑voltage battery is not sitting high up in the trunk or robbing cargo space like a big suitcase. Instead, it’s mounted low in the chassis, underneath the trunk floor (just above and forward of the rear axle). This design keeps the weight down low and toward the car’s center, lowering the center of gravity and improving balance. Official specs and service info (ref. document P‑2374‑214‑25C) place the 400 V battery beneath the rear cargo floor, tightly integrated into the body structure. There is a slight trunk‑floor height increase (trunk volume is about 13.1 cu ft), but the pack’s forward‑low placement means it’s not swinging off the tail or raising the car’s center of mass.

The benefit of this layout is evident when driving. Weight carried down low and near the rear axle can actually help: reviewers observed the battery’s mass over the rear axle “helps plant the car” in corners. The car feels well‑planted rather than top‑heavy. By placing the battery centrally, Mercedes kept the front/rear weight distribution at roughly 47 / 53 % – impressively balanced for a front‑engine sedan. This contributes to stable, predictable handling. Far from being a liability, the battery’s placement improves stability and traction. The E53e also features active rear‑axle steering and adaptive suspension, which together with the low battery position make the car remarkably agile for its size. One test driver noted the E53 corners so flat and composed that the rear‑wheel steering “disguises its 5,100‑lb curb weight” around bends. There’s no sense of a top‑heavy load; the car’s chassis tuning and weight distribution keep it feeling like a proper AMG sport sedan.
Weight and Handling – AMG Engineering Hides the Mass

It’s true that the E53e, with its hybrid components, is heavier than a standard E‑Class or the old E63. Independent testing measured 5,309 lb – about 800 lb more than the previous‑generation E63 S. But AMG’s engineering prowess masks that weight and maintains performance. Instrumented tests bear this out:
  • 0 – 60 mph: 3.3 s (quicker than AMG’s own 3.7 – 3.8 s claim, and just 0.3 s off the lighter V8 E63’s time)
  • ¼ mile: 11.7 s @ 120 mph (only about half a second behind the last E63 S)
  • 60 – 0 mph braking: 102 ft (better than the lighter E63 S sedan’s 109 ft stop, thanks to strong regen plus big brakes)
  • Skidpad: 0.93 g lateral grip (solidly in sports‑sedan territory; only marginally below the prior E63’s ≈ 0.97 g)
  • Figure‑8 course: 24.1 s @ 0.84 g (again very close to the older V8’s performance)
These are super‑sedan numbers despite the car’s weight. In spirited driving, the E53e still feels every bit an AMG. The low‑slung battery, adaptive air suspension, and standard 4MATIC+ AWD with an electronic limited‑slip rear diff let the car put power down exceptionally well. Coming out of a corner, it “just sticks and goes” without drama. The battery’s location over the rear axle adds useful rear traction, and the trick diff can apportion torque to help rotate the car smoothly on throttle. As an owner who’s pushed the car hard, I can attest it hides its mass deftly – you feel the heft only in the most extreme transitions, and even then the E53e remains composed. AMG clearly tuned the chassis to mitigate any weight penalty, so it still delivers the agility we expect from the badge.
Conclusion: Confidence in AMG’s Hybrid Engineering

As an enthusiast and owner, I’ve been thoroughly impressed with the E53e’s engineering. Mercedes‑AMG answered every doubt with hard data and real‑world results. Yes, it’s a heavy car on paper, but that weight is strategically placed and expertly managed. The hybrid battery isn’t a handicap – it’s a performance enhancer and a key efficiency tool. The car delivers the thrilling acceleration, dynamic handling, and high‑tech sophistication expected of an AMG, while adding the benefits of electrification. Personally, I have zero reservations about the E53e’s weight or hybrid system after living with it. The way this machine can rip off a 3.3‑second 0–60 run, hug a corner, then quietly cruise in EV mode around town is a testament to AMG’s thoughtful design. It’s a no‑compromise solution to the plug‑in‑hybrid dilemma – not a half‑baked idea, but a well‑executed blend of performance and efficiency in one package. I remain very satisfied and confident in the E53e’s overall performance profile and engineering. Mercedes‑AMG set out to prove a plug‑in‑hybrid sedan could truly be an AMG, and from my perspective, they’ve absolutely succeeded.

Sources: Personal Experience; Mercedes‑AMG PHEV technical documentation and owner materials; MotorTrend testing and review of the 2025 AMG E53 Hybrid; InsideEVs first‑drive impressions; Official Mercedes‑Benz USA E53e product literature; Automoblog technical breakdown.
You have drunk the Kool Aid.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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You have drunk the Kool Aid.

The desperation in justifying the purchase of the vehicle is amazing. Just say you wanted it and it satisfied your _______ (insert appropriate word). Three years ago I purchased an SL450. Zero justification. I just wanted it.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 08:41 AM
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The desperation in justifying the purchase of the vehicle is amazing. Just say you wanted it and it satisfied your _______ (insert appropriate word). Three years ago I purchased an SL450. Zero justification. I just wanted it.
Actually agree. This is true for for every luxury car purchase. If we didn’t have some other thing we were looking for, we’d all be driving a Camry. These are not rational purchases.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 09:18 AM
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I’m new here, but I’m surprised of what I read after 11 pages !
It’s your opinion, you own and drove an « old » E450, your use of your car needs some advantages and characteristics that E53 don’t have, you do not appreciate some equipments that may offer comfort, ease of use and excellence or luxury from S Class, it’s your right….
But please stop E53 bashing even some facts are real and some of your conclusions are founded. …L1Wolf
You are happy with your 2019 E450, let us be happy here with our 2024 E53 or 2025 and explain why for potential buyers and mostly satisfied owners
The Owners of this E53 are conscious of the pros and cons of this hybrid car, but the balance (and financial capacity) are OK, and we bought it.
it’s not the best car (none is but one may match most needs and dreams of its owners), but it’s a good one.
You are happy with 375 HP, let us enjoy the 20% extra-weight and the 35% of extra-power and extra-torque… and the 40 miles of electric range, 10% of total range
For me, less is not more,
NB: try a current top ICE E450 or a 2021 BMW 545e or a 2024 BMW 550e and you may change your point of view on weight, consomption and driving !
You must be confusing me with someone else. Did you actually read any of my posts? Unless I'm confused in thinking you are addressing this to me.

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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 09:19 AM
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same, just trying to help less informed understand the tech.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 09:22 AM
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@Avi8tor - share some of that kool aid! I defer to #250.

That D-Bag lost me at "why did you get me out of my Koenigsegg today". Really? Lucky for him there is YouTube.
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Sorry @L1Wolf it’s a misunderstanding: I just wrote you started this thread on the E53 and the motor trend article and I thank you for this, that’s all. I do NOT at all addressing you!

the fact is that everything else concerned @JTK44 and it’s bashing words…
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Sorry @L1Wolf it’s a misunderstanding: I just wrote you started this thread on the E53 and the motor trend article and I thank you for this, that’s all. I do NOT at all addressing you!

the fact is that everything else concerned @JTK44 and it’s bashing words…
It does no good to admonish JTK44. He never shuts up. It just encourages him.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:13 AM
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It does no good to admonish JTK44. He never shuts up. It just encourages him.

My mother taught me, If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

I guess you missed that class with your mother
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 01:11 PM
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same, just trying to help less informed understand the tech.
Well done. Those bashing the car here have not driven it. Personally, even though I am anti-PHEV for the most part, I am keeping an open mind as performance wagons are very few and far between. Only comment is the new E53 does not have air suspension.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Well done. Those bashing the car here have not driven it. Personally, even though I am anti-PHEV for the most part, I am keeping an open mind as performance wagons are very few and far between. Only comment is the new E53 does not have air suspension.
Really well said — and I agree completely. I was also skeptical at first, especially coming from air suspension setups. When I first picked up the E53e, the ride felt a bit tight, and I genuinely wondered if it was a step backward without AIRMATIC.

But once the springs settled (around the 2–3k mile mark), it really bloomed. Still not as pillowy as full air, but much more composed, and now it soaks up Atlanta’s broken pavement beautifully — while still keeping that tight AMG response in corners. Honestly, I don’t miss AIRMATIC anymore.

As for the hybrid system: it’s not a typical PHEV. The e-motor lives inside the transmission (P2 layout), which means instant torque-fill and no delay between inputs. Even when EV range reads zero, you’re still getting electric assist for performance and efficiency. It never feels like a compromise — it feels like AMG finally figured out how to do hybrid right. If you want me to go deeper into how it does not use a traditional starter motor or alternator like you'd find in most vehicles, hybrid or otherwise let me know.

Open mind = rewarded.

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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 03:09 PM
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….If you want me to go deeper into how it does not use a traditional starter motor or alternator like you'd find in most vehicles, hybrid or otherwise let me know.

Open mind = rewarded.
Could you do that in a separate thread so we don’t have to scroll through 300 posts to find it?
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My mother taught me, If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

I guess you missed that class with your mother
He was busy in a different class with your mother 🤪

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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Avi8tor
Thanks for sharing that image—it perfectly illustrates my point.

What you're seeing there is exactly what I described earlier: The battery in the E53 is not "just thrown into the trunk" as dead weight. It's placed deliberately low, directly ahead of the rear axle, precisely to optimize the vehicle's center of gravity and maintain ideal weight distribution. This strategic placement significantly contributes to the car’s agile handling and balanced dynamics.

AMG engineers aren’t amateurs; the battery positioning shown in your own image clearly demonstrates their thoughtful approach. It ensures stability and performance—exactly the opposite of what you were implying.

I've tried with glasses and without; turning my laptop upside down; looking at a reflection in the mirror; and what I see is a battery pack that is mounted with the forward edge directly above the rear axle and the rear edge hanging into what would be a trunk space. Definitely NOT ahead of the rear axle, and definitely NOT low.
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Well done. Those bashing the car here have not driven it. Personally, even though I am anti-PHEV for the most part, I am keeping an open mind as performance wagons are very few and far between. Only comment is the new E53 does not have air suspension.
Me personally, I would certainly have considered the E53 wagon, if it came with the regular 3.0L Inline Turbo and the Mild-hybrid system like in the E450 (which removes several of the drive belts, the starter-generator and the alternator and provides the instant torque-fill function that the smaller turbo in a bi-turbo setup does), but with the AMG sports-seats, and the bracings that stiffens up the structure even further.

The 3.0L Inline Turbo and the Mild-hybrid of the E53 being a bit more souped up over the E450 version. Just like is present within the current GLE53.

Without of course the massive PHEV related pork (and diminished cargo space) as a mandatory add-on. Simplify the damn thing, than making it more complicated.

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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
Could you do that in a separate thread so we don’t have to scroll through 300 posts to find it?

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post9185676

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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 06:14 PM
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There is a full press file with all these explainations, for the balance with battery place: deeper and lower could be difficult on a not SUV vehicle, there is some pipes, rear drive transmission fuel tank to fill the space too !

there is some interesting videos to make your opinion on how an a E53 reacts, how it sounds, how it performs… what to expect or not
https://youtu.be/2KkswGUaieM
after 14’
https://youtu.be/8Sx1qPIAN8I

Too speed 294 km/h
https://youtu.be/NahqAVhk3dw
https://youtu.be/XD09MFcceJc?feature=shared

enjoy !
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
Me personally, I would certainly have considered the E53 wagon, if it came with the regular 3.0L Inline Turbo and the Mild-hybrid system like in the E450 (which removes several of the drive belts, the starter-generator and the alternator and provides the instant torque-fill function that the smaller turbo in a bi-turbo setup does), but with the AMG sports-seats, and the bracings that stiffens up the structure even further.

The 3.0L Inline Turbo and the Mild-hybrid of the E53 being a bit more souped up over the E450 version. Just like is present within the current GLE53.

Without of course the massive PHEV related pork (and diminished cargo space) as a mandatory add-on. Simplify the damn thing, than making it more complicated.
I would have liked that as well. But it doesn't exist. The E53 also has the M256 engine and same benefits of the E450 you list; just a bigger battery with plug-in capability and electric-only range, which would be useful. Whether mild- or plug-in-hybrid, both are complex...overall more similar than different. Regardless, doesn't matter to me if I'm leasing. Yes, I wish it was lighter...but the S213 is 700lbs heavier than my W211 yet rides and handles better, and doesn't go through tires any faster (and becasue of regen uses far less brakes). Tech moves the ball forward. Options for replacing my S213 AT wagon (which I only got because there were no E63s sold here in 2022) with a new wagon are:

Audi RS6
Mercedes E53
BMW M5

All three have less cargo capacity than the S213, which is not ideal. Neither the MB nor the BMW have air suspension, which is not ideal. Both the MB and BMW are PHEVs, which is not ideal. Audi has ~11% interest on leases, is the most expensive MSRP of the three, and is limited to stock on hand, which is not ideal. I have only driven the RS6 out of the three, and while it looks great in and out, I haven't been able to fall in love with the way it drives. Tried to like the M5 styling in person, but just can't past it. Plus it's huge as well as heavy.

I may drive the E53 wagon and hate it, but for now it's the leading contender for me.

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The more reviews I see on the E53 the more I'm convinced I made the right choice in getting the E450. Not because I don't think I would like the car. I think I would love it actually. I would likely get myself into trouble if it was my daily driver. With the E450, I don't feel the urge to hit it very often and even when I do, I will usually talk myself out of it before doing so. That would be much harder to control if I had the E53. Here is another review that has mostly great things to say. The only real negative is the trunk space. All the other negatives are not uniquely E53 and also found on the E450 and even E350.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 09:29 PM
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I would likely get myself into trouble if it was my daily driver.

and that my friend is the only negative I can say I have with my purchase...sometimes I just wanna punch it
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 09:44 PM
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With the E450, I don't feel the urge to hit it very often and even when I do, I will usually talk myself out of it before doing so.
I hit it, whenever I feel the urge, in the E450 wagon, and with its 4.6secs 0-60, it can accelerate faster than 90% of the other cars on the road, which is more than good enough for me.

During a recent 1500+ mile trip, just a step on the gas pedal would quickly take it to triple-digit speeds, and the thing is deceptively fast, since it is so smooth and silent. I have no desire for more power, even though I would certainly appreciate more bolstering in the seats, and additional chassis stiffness and tighter steering can never hurt, and is always welcome.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I would have liked that as well. But it doesn't exist. The E53 also has the M256 engine and same benefits of the E450 you list; just a bigger battery with plug-in capability and electric-only range, which would be useful. Whether mild- or plug-in-hybrid, both are complex...overall more similar than different. Regardless, doesn't matter to me if I'm leasing. Yes, I wish it was lighter...but the S213 is 700lbs heavier than my W211 yet rides and handles better, and doesn't go through tires any faster (and becasue of regen uses far less brakes). Tech moves the ball forward. Options for replacing my S213 AT wagon (which I only got because there were no E63s sold here in 2022) with a new wagon are:

Audi RS6
Mercedes E53
BMW M5

All three have less cargo capacity than the S213, which is not ideal. Neither the MB nor the BMW have air suspension, which is not ideal. Both the MB and BMW are PHEVs, which is not ideal. Audi has ~11% interest on leases, is the most expensive MSRP of the three, and is limited to stock on hand, which is not ideal. I have only driven the RS6 out of the three, and while it looks great in and out, I haven't been able to fall in love with the way it drives. Tried to like the M5 styling in person, but just can't past it. Plus it's huge as well as heavy.

I may drive the E53 wagon and hate it, but for now it's the leading contender for me.
Thing is, even the GLE 53 is said to be the PHEV later.
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Was this posted yet? I haven't watched it but he always have something to say:
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