W214 vs. W213
Now days I download collectible music and stream the rest. Technology marches on, especially in vehicles.It's just amazing how some folks are happy to spend hours copying music onto a thumb drive, which has to be USB-C because they didn't include even 1 USB-A port.
These deficencies are not overcome by the larger screens and added info which are nice.
Also, I'll be looking at the Toyota Crown after I see what the safety statistics are. Also, maybe a used Bentley - I have a dealer near me.
On USB-A versus USB-C, its not much of an issue as you can get thumb drives in both form factors, however the USB-C interface is much faster and you can plug in a device in either orientation. You can also get adapters to switch from one to the other. My only complaint is that it's much easier to find low profile USB-A drives that do not stick out and cannot easily be hit and possibly broken. I posted a thread a while back (here) on my solution to that problem with USB-C drives. I should look again to see if any new low profile USB-C drives hit the market recently. Using the 90° adapters works great, but I would rather just have a low profile USB-C for simplicity.
Last edited by L1Wolf; Jul 19, 2025 at 11:53 AM.
Some Technology is great - my career was a manager in advanced network architecture for a very large US intelligence agency. Our older equipment was far more secure than the newer. It worked just as well. Are you enjoying the endless security breaches due to the new technology? I get a letter a month asking me to spend time to sign up for a pretty useless protection service. How about the run flats - ever get a flat on a Sunday 100 miles from an MB dealer. Or do you waste 1/4 of the space in the smaller W213 truck to carry one? Some new Tech is great - Others sucks..
I suppose you mean the below, by the "Permanent Bar" (which obviously does not include the "recirculation" "button") ?
And then you hit "Menu" in the bar above, which will bring a sub-menu, as shown below:
The above sub-menu has the "recirculation" icon within the screen, which can be pressed to activate re-circulation. And once you are in the sub-menu, your main menu, which has your maps etc is gone, replaced by the above sub-menu.....the whole user interface is a mess, and as user unfriendly as you can get, as far as I can see.
How did you make it a direct touch "recirculation" ? I am curious.
Last edited by Roweraay; Jul 19, 2025 at 02:30 PM.
Unless you can explain how you made the "re-circulation" function or other climate-control related functions, a direct press option on the "Permanent bar".
Unless you can explain how you made the "re-circulation" function or other climate-control related functions, a direct press option on the "Permanent bar".
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Also remember, that when the car starts up, pressing on the options within the "Permanent bar" does nothing, till the screen comes on fully. As opposed to buttons that are operational right from the get-go.
As below (where you can choose ONE of the below options to go onto the Permanent Bar - ALL of these were dedicated buttons in the X213):
Last edited by Roweraay; Jul 19, 2025 at 03:05 PM.
But then allow ALL of the climate controls and the Audio controls to be in a separate dedicated touch-screen.........just like Kia does in their $20K cars. Not have to play the game of having to choose/prioritize which button goes into the main bar, and which functions are accessible via menu and sub-menu diving.
Last edited by Roweraay; Jul 19, 2025 at 02:58 PM.
It's been hot and humid here in the northeast which means I am frequently hitting the recirculation button. Roweraay reports it's now a two-step process via the screen (which means taking ones eyes off the road)
Also remember, that when the car starts up, pressing on the options within the "Permanent bar" does nothing, till the screen comes on fully. As opposed to buttons that are operational right from the get-go.
As below (where you can choose ONE of the below options to go onto the Permanent Bar - ALL of these were dedicated buttons in the X213):




From October through March, unless it is raining and I need the AC to clear the windows, I have my climate control in auto, sync and and the AC off. This definitely improves gas mileage, saves wear and tear on the AC and I have never had any problem with mold. I have been on this board for many years and I cannot remember any post about not running the AC causing a mold problem. I do not understand why moisture would accumulate: there is fresh air coming through the vents which will dry out any moisture. In the winter there is little moisture in the air, the air is heated and any "moisture" will quickly be dried out - the reason we use humidifiers in our homes in the winter - the heated air is very dry!
There is a reason that Mercedes put a button for the AC: I suggest when appropriate to use that button and turn the AC off - especially in the winter!
As to air turning off the recirculation, I have done this once or twice, the last time when we had the smoke from the fires in Canada on Long Island two years ago. With the recirculation off, you do not bring in outside air and the air, at least to me, gets "stale" very quickly. My Mercedes has two filters for the air system: I let the two filters do their job and do not use the recirculation letting the system take in fresh air.
Last edited by JTK44; Jul 20, 2025 at 07:51 AM.
And as far as I know, unlike many other automakers, the Mercedes system will quietly turn off the re-circulation, after a few minutes, even if that's not what the driver wants. With a lighted button (like with the X213), you would immediately know that it turned off the re-circulation, while in case of the X214, you'd need to stare onto the specific spot on the screen to see if the barely visible "re-circulation" indicator is off.




I do miss a couple of things from my W213: 1. I much prefer the Cruise Control stalk on the steering wheel column which I think was the best device for controlling cruise control. 2. I do miss the built in sunglass holder in the W213. But for me, the W214 is enough better that those 2 missing items are not a big deal. I do love the wireless CarPlay in the W214 as well.
And I saw 2 other W214 wagons on the road during my trip yesterday! And one drove by my house this morning! It's gonna be a good day!
Last edited by beechcamp; Jul 20, 2025 at 10:22 AM.







