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Old 01-11-2024, 08:24 AM
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Driving range is increasing

The 80% driving range on my 2024 AMG EQE SUV originally showed 175 miles when the car was delivered. After two weeks of driving and charging, the 80% driving range now shows 210 miles or a 20% increase. My driving is mixed suburban and interstate so my mileage use is basically what it was in my E63S. Extrapolating to a 100% charge yields a maximum range of 262 miles. The car is EPA-rated at 235 miles, consistent with that specification. My miles/kWH since reset is currently showing 429 which should yield a range of 215 Miles. What are others experiencing with actual range over time?

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It should increase over time. It begins with a very pessimistic outlook. My EQE350V4 sedan started in the 200s when I purchased it, and after a couple of weeks it was projecting about 353. In the winter, it's significantly lower for now(about 250-260), but will go back up again as it warms up. The range forecast is quite temperature dependent. With our EQE350X4, it projected a bit over 300 miles, but now is significantly lower (230-240) due to low temperatures. Interestingly, SUV with heat pump is significantly lower in range than sedan without heat pump - air resistance must be a huge factor, and the waste heat loop in the sedan, even without heat pump, is still quite efficient.
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It should increase over time. It begins with a very pessimistic outlook. My EQE350V4 sedan started in the 200s when I purchased it, and after a couple of weeks it was projecting about 353. In the winter, it's significantly lower for now(about 250-260), but will go back up again as it warms up. The range forecast is quite temperature-dependent. With our EQE350X4, it projected a bit over 300 miles, but now is significantly lower (230-240) due to low temperatures. Interestingly, SUVs with heat pumps is significantly lower in range than sedan without heat pump - air resistance must be a huge factor, and the waste heat loop in the sedan, even without heat pump, is still quite efficient.
I'd be tickled pink if my miles/KWH was at three. With the AMG model, I was told not to expect a range above 275 miles in warmer weather. I believe that the sedans have a larger battery pack than the SUVs. The one in my AMG is 90.6KW.
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I'd be tickled pink if my miles/KWH was at three. With the AMG model, I was told not to expect a range above 275 miles in warmer weather. I believe that the sedans have a larger battery pack than the SUVs. The one in my AMG is 90.6KW.
We've seen 3.6-3.8 with the sedan on highway trips, and up to about 3.4-3.5 with the SUV. However, as you have "the beans" with your AMG and custom motors and inverters, I'd imagine it may run a bit less efficient. But in warmer weather, efficiency definitely goes up!
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I'd be tickled pink if my miles/KWH was at three. With the AMG model, I was told not to expect a range above 275 miles in warmer weather. I believe that the sedans have a larger battery pack than the SUVs. The one in my AMG is 90.6KW.
Range seems to have settled in as 275 miles now that the weather has turned warmer. The 80% number is now 220 which is more than sufficient. I'm charging now when the level gets below 50%
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Originally Posted by HBerman
Range seems to have settled in as 275 miles now that the weather has turned warmer. The 80% number is now 220 which is more than sufficient. I'm charging now when the level gets below 50%
I'm just curious what the original temperatures were when the range was lower and what the temps are now.

We have had our 350 4Matic SUV for about a month and the range was around 185 (at 80% charge) when the temps were in the single digits and below F. Now that the temps are up around 35 F, we are seeing a range of 210 at 80% charge. That would give us a range of around 260 at 100% (I think). If this is true, I may actually see above 300 miles per charge in the summer like others have reported. I would be very happy with that.
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Originally Posted by ngiovas
I'm just curious what the original temperatures were when the range was lower and what the temps are now.

We have had our 350 4Matic SUV for about a month and the range was around 185 (at 80% charge) when the temps were in the single digits and below F. Now that the temps are up around 35 F, we are seeing a range of 210 at 80% charge. That would give us a range of around 260 at 100% (I think). If this is true, I may actually see above 300 miles per charge in the summer like others have reported. I would be very happy with that.
The temperature at delivery was around 55 degrees. Range indicated was 175 miles. Temperature yesterday was 65 degrees range indicated 221 miles. That translates to 276 miles at 100%. Car has 606 miles now.

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I think once I realized how much I could affect range just by changing my behavior my anxiety got considerably better. All I have to do is slow down from 75 to 50 MPH and/or turn the HVAC on/off/eco-mode and I'll make it just fine, no worries. Locating a bunch of free level two chargers near where I shop helped too. I especially like the Volta chargers at movie theaters and malls. I really only worry about range now when I get low and need to shuffle cars around in the garage so my dryer outlet Splitvolt EVSE/charger cable can reach. Next house gets a hard-wired 80 AMP NACS charger installed.
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I installed a 60 amp years ago in my garage for an electric range/oven. When I got the EV last year, I had to install another 60 amp breaker because the existing oven outlet was not in an ideal location in relation to where I wanted to park the EV. The good news is that if I get another EV (get rid of the ICE) , It can use the oven outlet.

As for increase range, the lowest estimate I've seen the eqs amg is 244@80% (305@100%). Most of the time, it is around 255-274@80%. An weird detail is that while the 22-23 AMG is estimated at 277@100%, the interior pictures of the EQS amg on the MB website has always shown 299 miles@100%. See what the EQE AMG website say.
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Originally Posted by MB37
I installed a 60 amp years ago in my garage for an electric range/oven. When I got the EV last year, I had to install another 60 amp breaker because the existing oven outlet was not in an ideal location in relation to where I wanted to park the EV. The good news is that if I get another EV (get rid of the ICE) , It can use the oven outlet.

As for increase range, the lowest estimate I've seen the eqs amg is 244@80% (305@100%). Most of the time, it is around 255-274@80%. An weird detail is that while the 22-23 AMG is estimated at 277@100%, the interior pictures of the EQS amg on the MB website has always shown 299 miles@100%. See what the EQE AMG website say.
I would advise you NOT to use the oven outlet. Those receptacles are not designed to have connections made and removed over time.You will get a fire eventually. Several videos online in which this ocurred.
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I would advise you NOT to use the oven outlet. Those receptacles are not designed to have connections made and removed over time.You will get a fire eventually. Several videos online in which this ocurred.
No worries. Its the same outlet plug used for EV charger wall plug. My electrician verified it. Both plugs are commercial rated NEMA 14-50 and not the residential type. Since the house was built before 2020 codes, he didn't see a need to put in a GFCI breaker. Why 60 amps? For future in case you want to hardwire and do 50A. I have my Emporia set at 40A since that's the max for the EQS.
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Just charged my 2023 EQE350 Suv 4m from 54% to 100%. Was charging at about 7.8kwh. Initial eta for 100% SoC was 3:40am, but it reached 100% SoC early at 3:10am. Also, range seems so low? Initial expected range was about ~380km. At 100% SoC its telling me 290km, which is absolutely ridiculous. There has to be something going on here right?

Note that I just picked this up from the dealership this morning at 96%, drove about 80km freeway and had 69% when I parked. Then drove it a little bit more around town down to 54%. Its currently -11c(12f) outside.

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Originally Posted by lfranc_canuck
Note that I just picked this up from the dealership this morning at 96%, drove about 80km freeway and had 69% when I parked. Then drove it a little bit more around town down to 54%. Its currently -11c(12f) outside.

Any thoughts?
That's expected behavior. When it's that cold, it'll underpredict your range significantly to not let you believe you can go farther than you can. In warmer temps, you'll see it show over 450km if your driving style can support it. You're not actually losing any capacity - however, at such cold temperatures, the battery has to limit its output power at lower percentages, as it simply can't support as much current flow. So, it artificially limits how much of the pack you can use.

Don't worry though, you'll usually outperform that estimate significantly, especially if you just picked up the car. Over the coming weeks, it'll adjust to your driving style and show updates that are still temperature dependent but more accurate. Just give it time.
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Originally Posted by lfranc_canuck
Just charged my 2023 EQE350 Suv 4m from 54% to 100%. Was charging at about 7.8kwh. Initial eta for 100% SoC was 3:40am, but it reached 100% SoC early at 3:10am. Also, range seems so low? Initial expected range was about ~380km. At 100% SoC its telling me 290km, which is absolutely ridiculous. There has to be something going on here right?

Note that I just picked this up from the dealership this morning at 96%, drove about 80km freeway and had 69% when I parked. Then drove it a little bit more around town down to 54%. Its currently -11c(12f) outside.

Any thoughts?
Temperature definitely affects range as it gets lower than 32 degrees F. My 2024 AMG EQE started off with 175 miles at 80% and is now 225 miles at the same SOC. That's a range of 275 miles at 100%
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Originally Posted by HBerman
Temperature definitely affects range as it gets lower than 32 degrees F. My 2024 AMG EQE started off with 175 miles at 80% and is now 225 miles at the same SOC. That's a range of 275 miles at 100%
The range is now 245 miles at 80% charge or 306 miles at 100%. EPA rating is 235 at 100%. I'm psyched!
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yep, 350+ with optimistic range checking in
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We're seeing 70 MPH road trip ranges of about 270 miles at around 50°F this spring with a fully-loaded car (SUV). As the air density and heater use goes down, I suspect we'll see closer to 300 miles.

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