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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
A screenshot of my System information is earlier in the thread. Mine is E330 which apparently means MBUX 2.4. I can see that @HBerman is at E505, all up to date!

How do you know that the Exxx decodes to MBUX x.y?

My MBUX app says no updates available. Do I need to go to the dealer to get updated to E505?
It's a bit confusing, honestly, as there's no seeming numerical relation. Those of us who got 2.4 update know we have E330 as the version number. Those of you who got 2.6.1 know in turn you have E505. There were several versions inbetween. I'm bringing in our SUV for 20k service in a week, I'll see if I can convince them to do both cars for E505.

@EQEBlue , correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe ADAS is handled by other software updates and modules. There is ADAS-specific software in MBUX (e.g., auto lane change assist doesn't work when MBUX is rebooting), but the core of the system is controlled by different software. You mentioned phantom braking. I've never experienced that in an MB vehicle - ever - since 2013. I've had a couple of times where the warning went off under a bridge (older Distronic systems), but I've never had it jam on the brakes in Drive. I've had one slow-down in my sedan (MB calls this "partial braking", but never a full-on emergency brake like I see in Tesla videos all the time). Reverse is a different story - our EQEs see some sort of stimulus in reverse in my parents' driveway, nowhere else though. I've been very happy with MB performance when it comes to avoiding false positives for ADAS.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 03:19 AM
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I received this update in Australia on the first day of release on my 2023 EQE with a big BUT -- I had numerous bugs in my original firmware and MB agreed to update it, which actually required replacing hardware and took several weeks.

My initial version was RL_NTG7_E316.505_22092AC3 and I received no upgrades between when I received the car July 2023 and when I left it for service. The version I got returned me after the hardware replacement was RL_NTG7_E504.304_24133AC3. My version after receiving 2.6.1 has changed slightly to RL_NTG7_E505.404_24441AC3.

I don't have Sound Drive (no surprise, as Dolby Atmos didn't make it here either) -- but I do have the new EV routing engine.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bollar
I received this update in Australia on the first day of release on my 2023 EQE with a big BUT -- I had numerous bugs in my original firmware and MB agreed to update it, which actually required replacing hardware and took several weeks.

My initial version was RL_NTG7_E316.505_22092AC3 and I received no upgrades between when I received the car July 2023 and when I left it for service. The version I got returned me after the hardware replacement was RL_NTG7_E504.304_24133AC3. My version after receiving 2.6.1 has changed slightly to RL_NTG7_E505.404_24441AC3.

I don't have Sound Drive (no surprise, as Dolby Atmos didn't make it here either) -- but I do have the new EV routing engine.
This is a good data point, can you elaborate on different EV routing engine? What difference are you seeing compared to prior?
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
It's a bit confusing, honestly, as there's no seeming numerical relation. Those of us who got 2.4 update know we have E330 as the version number. Those of you who got 2.6.1 know in turn you have E505. There were several versions inbetween. I'm bringing in our SUV for 20k service in a week, I'll see if I can convince them to do both cars for E505.

@EQEBlue , correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe ADAS is handled by other software updates and modules. There is ADAS-specific software in MBUX (e.g., auto lane change assist doesn't work when MBUX is rebooting), but the core of the system is controlled by different software. You mentioned phantom braking. I've never experienced that in an MB vehicle - ever - since 2013. I've had a couple of times where the warning went off under a bridge (older Distronic systems), but I've never had it jam on the brakes in Drive. I've had one slow-down in my sedan (MB calls this "partial braking", but never a full-on emergency brake like I see in Tesla videos all the time). Reverse is a different story - our EQEs see some sort of stimulus in reverse in my parents' driveway, nowhere else though. I've been very happy with MB performance when it comes to avoiding false positives for ADAS.
Yes, ADAS is Nvidia tech brought in by Continental, Digital lights are Hella, every single bit of our cars are from different suppliers.

I have a EQE sedan and I’ve been seeing Phantom braking once every 30-40 miles. It’s as bad as Model S Raven. It’s not like the Tesla system where it triggers just at over passes. It triggers at almost any location, I’d get the whole emergency forward collision alerts when there is nothing and no one in from of me for almost a mile but a semi or pickup not too far behind which is really bad timing.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
It's a bit confusing, honestly, as there's no seeming numerical relation. Those of us who got 2.4 update know we have E330 as the version number. Those of you who got 2.6.1 know in turn you have E505. There were several versions inbetween. I'm bringing in our SUV for 20k service in a week, I'll see if I can convince them to do both cars for E505.
Where does the v2.4 or 2.6.1 come from? What's the source of those numbers that allows anyone to make an inference that they are related to the Exxx?

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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
Where does the v2.4 or 2.6.1 come from? What's the source of those numbers that allows anyone to make an inference that they are related to the Exxx?
MB's MBUX versioning comes up with 2.3, 2.4 and 2.6.1. I suspect it's a larger version number that encompasses experiences, versus the internal version numbers that are relevant to software build and version, and vehicle specifications.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
MB's MBUX versioning comes up with 2.3, 2.4 and 2.6.1. I suspect it's a larger version number that encompasses experiences, versus the internal version numbers that are relevant to software build and version, and vehicle specifications.
Thank you. Specifically where do you read 2.6.1?
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
Thank you. Specifically where do you read 2.6.1?
For those who are receiving it, their apps will notify them of the "2.6.1" update. However, you won't see anything related to that number on the MBUX system information page.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
For those who are receiving it, their apps will notify them of the "2.6.1" update. However, you won't see anything related to that number on the MBUX system information page.
There was no reference to the installed MBUX level before I installed the update. There is no additional operational information available anywhere. I know that SoundDrive is not operational and there is no menu entry on the media page. Additionally, I saw a posting that said that the update was paused for distribution, but no further information was forthcoming.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 03:28 PM
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This is a good data point, can you elaborate on different EV routing engine? What difference are you seeing compared to prior?
The engine now shows different routes and estimates times for each of the proposed routes, supposedly incorporating available charging stations into the routing. You can then tap on one of the alternatives if you want to do it instead. Unfortunately, MB's EV charging station data provider doesn't include all station brands (Tesla, Ampol, BP), which makes it not useful. On a trip that will require charging, I always use ABRP via CarPlay. Shame, because routing on the Hyperscreen is very attractive.

We've had access to many Tesla stations for a couple of years now and they make the difference between an easy or difficult trip when you don't know that there are twelve Superchargers within eyesight of a single 50kW charger that MB proposes.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
I have a EQE sedan and I’ve been seeing Phantom braking once every 30-40 miles. It’s as bad as Model S Raven. It’s not like the Tesla system where it triggers just at over passes. It triggers at almost any location, I’d get the whole emergency forward collision alerts when there is nothing and no one in from of me for almost a mile but a semi or pickup not too far behind which is really bad timing.
I drove a Model S (2015 & 2018) for nine years so I'm thoroughly familiar with its phantom braking problem. I've driven the EQE about 6,000 miles. On the freeway I'm almost always using the active steering assistance. The MB active steering is not as good as the Tesla Autopilot, it will at times wander off the road unexpectedly, but I haven't experienced any phantom braking.
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Old Jan 20, 2025 | 09:29 AM
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Yes, I am not in US. India. That seems like a smart idea. Although the fear that i have is that, they might just decide to factory reset the MBUX first to see if resolved my concern. I'll have to make 2 trips then saying that the factory reset also didnt resolve the concern
same situation with my EQS bro any updates ? Did you visit the dealer ?
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 05:27 PM
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I took my 2024 EQE, with E330 system software, to the dealer and asked for a software update. As suggested, he was reluctant to do so. He told me there was no single s/w update, but that the system had 34 different software modules, all at different levels of revision and that the car would tell me when it needed an update. So I gave him some specific complaints, he relented and they kept the car overnight.

My car came back with E505! Further...
- The CSR corrected himself and said the fob was not linked to a profile.
- If I held the button for a few seconds, not just momentary, the door mounted seat adjustment would adjust the driver's seat before I got into the car.

Driving home, with Lane Keeping and Steering assistance both ON, but Auto Lane Change OFF (I never use this), the speed limit on the dash began to flash. I looked over at the center screen and the Auto Lane Change square in the display was flashing. Above it was a flashing notice that Auto Lane Change was not available. Touching the Auto Lane Change “button” on the screen did nothing. Turning other assistance features on/off did nothing. I finally pulled over and shut down. When I restarted, the speed limit was no longer flashing and I was able to turn OFF Auto Lane Change. It’s possible that Auto Lane Change was ON when I picked up the car and I didn’t notice, though I’m certain that Steering Assistance was OFF.

1. Is there a change log for the various versions anywhere?
2. The app has a "beta" software program. Has anyone ever been in this or received an update through that channel?
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ashwinksa
same situation with my EQS bro any updates ? Did you visit the dealer ?
in Settings - system information - System version make sure it says E505 it solves some phantom braking issues and different EV routing engine. Say the current one is routing to chargers behind you on the route -known issue - post on TeamBHP too, I know EV content is hated on but be the change you’d want to see in others
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
I took my 2024 EQE, with E330 system software, to the dealer and asked for a software update. As suggested, he was reluctant to do so. He told me there was no single s/w update, but that the system had 34 different software modules, all at different levels of revision and that the car would tell me when it needed an update. So I gave him some specific complaints, he relented and they kept the car overnight.

My car came back with E505! Further...
- The CSR corrected himself and said the fob was not linked to a profile.
- If I held the button for a few seconds, not just momentary, the door mounted seat adjustment would adjust the driver's seat before I got into the car.

Driving home, with Lane Keeping and Steering assistance both ON, but Auto Lane Change OFF (I never use this), the speed limit on the dash began to flash. I looked over at the center screen and the Auto Lane Change square in the display was flashing. Above it was a flashing notice that Auto Lane Change was not available. Touching the Auto Lane Change “button” on the screen did nothing. Turning other assistance features on/off did nothing. I finally pulled over and shut down. When I restarted, the speed limit was no longer flashing and I was able to turn OFF Auto Lane Change. It’s possible that Auto Lane Change was ON when I picked up the car and I didn’t notice, though I’m certain that Steering Assistance was OFF.

1. Is there a change log for the various versions anywhere?
2. The app has a "beta" software program. Has anyone ever been in this or received an update through that channel?

Are you now able to link your fob to your profile recognition? This feature was seeming added on E405 but my 23 EQE sedan didn’t get it.

no official changelog as far as I know I’ve posted a couple of time from my experience being on E316 thru E504

beta programs are for server side digital addon like Azure voice, Emergency vehicle in vicinity notification and being able to report traffic incidents. They get added to the vehicle base software after 2 quarters being in beta.

waiting for green light notification chime.

what are changes have your observed? Are we finally able to favorite or follow podcasts?
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:24 PM
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Are you now able to link your fob to your profile recognition? This feature was seeming added on E405 but my 23 EQE sedan didn’t get it.

no official changelog as far as I know I’ve posted a couple of time from my experience being on E316 thru E504

beta programs are for server side digital addon like Azure voice, Emergency vehicle in vicinity notification and being able to report traffic incidents. They get added to the vehicle base software after 2 quarters being in beta.

waiting for green light notification chime.

what are changes have your observed? Are we finally able to favorite or follow podcasts?
Sorry for not being clear. The CSR said the EQE did not support linking the fob to a profile.

I've only driven the car about 20 miles and have not yet noticed any new features, other than the Auto Lane Change "feature" cited above.
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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
Sorry for not being clear. The CSR said the EQE did not support linking the fob to a profile.

I've only driven the car about 20 miles and have not yet noticed any new features, other than the Auto Lane Change "feature" cited above.
The CSR needs to check again, they are wrong. I was helping an old couple charger their EQE SUV and their vehicle had smart key authentication. Proof attached

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Old Jan 22, 2025 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
The CSR needs to check again, they are wrong. I was helping an old couple charger their EQE SUV and their vehicle had smart key authentication. Proof attached


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Great to hear!

Was that car in the U.S.?
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 12:04 AM
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Great to hear!

Was that car in the U.S.?
Yes, NorCal
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
The CSR needs to check again, they are wrong. I was helping an old couple charger their EQE SUV and their vehicle had smart key authentication. Proof attached

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Thanks, I was able to pair the fobs to the profiles!
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Old Jan 23, 2025 | 11:02 PM
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Sound Drive was pushed to me overnight.
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Do you mean it actually installed itself and you can use SoundDrive?
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Do you mean it actually installed itself and you can use SoundDrive?
I was able to activate Sound Drive this morning in my Digital Extras. It was part of the content of the OTA that was installed several weeks ago. I haven't yet gone into my car to determine if the activation was completed.


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Do you mean it actually installed itself and you can use SoundDrive?
I was able to activate it in the portal, but it hasn't shown up on the car yet and the Mercedes Store on the car doesn't list it as something "purchased" or available for purchase. Maybe I'm a step closer?
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Do you mean it actually installed itself and you can use SoundDrive?
Yes, but I don't know how to set it up! Looking for instructions online somewhere or a YouTube video.
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