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I dunno what Websters says these days but gaining unauthorized access is a pretty good definition of a hack if you ask me. Since your motives are benign and not malicious though, you're a white hat h@X0r, not the much cooler black hat kind.
unauthorized as in, Mercedes Benz doesn’t get to sell me $80/yr Mercedes Me charge subscription. Yes!
EQEBlue, just wanted to thank you for the info. I had my first successful charge on a Tesla Supercharger this evening!
I purchased an A2Z Typhoon Pro last month in anticipation of the release, so when I drove by my local Supercharger site and it was empty, I thought "might as well give it a try"!
Thanks again for the info, and I look forward to Mercedes/Tesla making this official and integrated with the car soon.
Will the charge rate depend on what type of EV you have in entered in the Tesla app. 55KW a bit slow, I think EQE can do 90? What model Ford or Chevy is best for highest rate? Going to go try today at a V3 station nearby.
Will the charge rate depend on what type of EV you have in entered in the Tesla app. 55KW a bit slow, I think EQE can do 90? What model Ford or Chevy is best for highest rate? Going to go try today at a V3 station nearby.
That's a good question! I only did this as an experiment, so the battery was at a high state of charge and the battery was cold (27F) after sitting at work all day. I will say that the Tesla charger ramped up much faster than I'm used to seeing on EA chargers. I do expect that if the battery was preconditioned and at a lower SOC, the Supercharger would have given everything the vehicle would demand (I've seen 170KW+ at EA). Personally, once Mercedes gets it integrated with MBUX I think the experience will be better than EA.
Will the charge rate depend on what type of EV you have in entered in the Tesla app. 55KW a bit slow, I think EQE can do 90? What model Ford or Chevy is best for highest rate? Going to go try today at a V3 station nearby.
EQE maxes out at about 173kW. Vehicle selected in the app doesn't matter. I just set it to Hummer EV as that has a huge peak charge, but it shouldn't correlate at all.
Viola, it works! Only saw 90 KW on my 2022 EQE for the 5 minutes I tried it. I was at 67% when I started. Suspect this is about max, as I saw this at a MB station at a Bucees on FL east coast. Now for that road trip.
This 90kw is probably right. MB says 170 KW up to 50%, then tapers down to 110KW at 70%, 80KW at 80%, then 45KW to 100%. All this plus or minus depending on battery temp. It was about 60 F in my area.
Will the charge rate depend on what type of EV you have in entered in the Tesla app. 55KW a bit slow, I think EQE can do 90? What model Ford or Chevy is best for highest rate? Going to go try today at a V3 station nearby.
The charge rate should be negotiated between the car and the charger while you charge. It is a dynamic value that changes as the car charges. The protocol for this communication is the same between CCS and NACS, so there should not be a problem. If there is a problem, your car will not charge.
The charge rate should be negotiated between the car and the charger while you charge. It is a dynamic value that changes as the car charges. The protocol for this communication is the same between CCS and NACS, so there should not be a problem. If there is a problem, your car will not charge.
When I charged my EQE my SoC was 4-5% and I was getting 168kW to 30% and 150kW to 55% and 100kW to 80%
until we get Tesla supercharger as charging station POI in MBUX, you’d need to navigate to a DCFC higher than 100kW to get battery preconditioning, which is likely why others saw lower charge rate.
looking to do a long roadtrip around april, this is helpful news. destination has no fast charging infrastructure besides a single supercharger location about 20 minutes away.
looking to do a long roadtrip around april, this is helpful news. destination has no fast charging infrastructure besides a single supercharger location about 20 minutes away.
Glad to help make sure it's a V3 that's newer than June 2023
Glad to help make sure it's a V3 that's newer than June 2023
We have a supercharger next to an EA 5 minutes from our home. The EA station went live in the summer of 2023, but the supercharger was installed at least a year before, and I've been able to use it just fine. Definitely seems to work with units older than June 2023 unless something was retrofitted.
We have a supercharger next to an EA 5 minutes from our home. The EA station went live in the summer of 2023, but the supercharger was installed at least a year before, and I've been able to use it just fine. Definitely seems to work with units older than June 2023 unless something was retrofitted.
Nice can you share station info? I’d like to see why some older V3 aren’t working
I tried to see when it went live. If you scroll down in Plugshare, it seems that it cuts off the number of max checkins. For instance, our EA station in the same location went live in June or July 2023. But the newest checkin it shows is from July of 2024, so it must be cutting off after a certain number. I'm certain the Supercharger was installed well before June 2023 - the EA came much later. I'd estimate it was installed in 2021 or 2022.
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Nice can you share station info? I’d like to see why some older V3 aren’t working
If you only list your MB EQ vehicle in your stable of cars in the Tesla app, then only Magic Dock stations will appear as available chargers. Once I added a Ford Lightning to my list of vehicles then many more V3 and V4 chargers appear on the Tesla app map. Do the V3 stations that don't work, show up as available for use with an adapter in the Tesla app? This could be problematic for someone trying to plan a road trip using Superchargers that are displayed in the app as being available.
If you only list your MB EQ vehicle in your stable of cars in the Tesla app, then only Magic Dock stations will appear as available chargers. Once I added a Ford Lightning to my list of vehicles then many more V3 and V4 chargers appear on the Tesla app map. Do the V3 stations that don't work, show up as available for use with an adapter in the Tesla app? This could be problematic for someone trying to plan a road trip using Superchargers that are displayed in the app as being available.
No, it only seems to show compatible ones. I added a Hummer EV in addition to the EQs for search, and it has been working. All that will be moot soon anyway in February, I guess.
No, it only seems to show compatible ones. I added a Hummer EV in addition to the EQs for search, and it has been working. All that will be moot soon anyway in February, I guess.
I stopped by the MB dealer today to see if I could make an appointment for the required software update to show Tesla Superchargers in the Navigation system. They were not accepting appointments yet. They also did not mentino the $80 subcription fee to enable Plug & Charge. It does not make sense to me to use Plug & Charge if doing so precludes getting the Tesla membership discounted rate.
So, I wonder if this still works today. Apparently, EGMP vehicles are now blocked by reading the car's on-board VIN and/or certificate. So, maybe the loophole we had for MB and any other car is now not working at this point until official release date. Wonder if anyone wants to confirm.
So, I wonder if this still works today. Apparently, EGMP vehicles are now blocked by reading the car's on-board VIN and/or certificate. So, maybe the loophole we had for MB and any other car is now not working at this point until official release date. Wonder if anyone wants to confirm.
I have an Ioniq 5 and the Tesla app shows chargers for it. I think it's just Kia.
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