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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Jacking up the EQS SUV for a wheel change

Is there a jacking mode for these EQS cars with air suspension? My Audi's have a feature to disable air suspension prior jacking up the car so I am curious to know if Mercedes cars have the same feature that I couldn't find. Thanks.
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 10:57 PM
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I have removed and re-installed the wheels on my EQS SUV at least 20 times over the last year. I don't believe there is an option to disable the air suspension. If I remember to do so I turn off the Tow Away Alarm. I recall triggering the alarm one time. But, if you only lift the tires 1/2" off the ground it should not make a difference if the alarm is on or off.
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 11:12 PM
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I will be removing a wheel and bring it to a tire shop because another branch of the same tire shop did a tire repair (plug and patch) last week and it's leaking air slowly. Ordered a new tire from tirerack and got it shipped to the discount tire for the tire replacement. I only have around 4k miles on my tires.

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I have removed and re-installed the wheels on my EQS SUV at least 20 times over the last year. I don't believe there is an option to disable the air suspension. If I remember to do so I turn off the Tow Away Alarm. I recall triggering the alarm one time. But, if you only lift the tires 1/2" off the ground it should not make a difference if the alarm is on or off.
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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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I will be removing a wheel and bring it to a tire shop because another branch of the same tire shop did a tire repair (plug and patch) last week and it's leaking air slowly. Ordered a new tire from tirerack and got it shipped to the discount tire for the tire replacement. I only have around 4k miles on my tires.
My EQS SUV was delivered with 275/45-R21 RunOnFlat tires with non-staggered wheels. I have over 22K miles on the tires (rotated twice) and the right rear tire has consistently worn faster than the other tires. If I were adding a new tire with 4000 miles on the other three tires, I would mount the new tire on the right rear. Then I would move the tire with the most amount of wear to the left front. I expect to get between 23K and 24K miles on the original tires before any of them reaches 3/32" tread depth.

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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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...Ordered a new tire from tirerack and got it shipped to the discount tire for the tire replacement...
Were you able to find an exact match tire at TireRack? I have never seen the Goodyear Eagle Touring RunOnFlat tires listed on TR.
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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 11:38 AM
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Yes, it's a Goodyear Eagle Touring MOE.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ar=275%2F45-21

I have noticed that the front tires are wearing down much faster than the rear tires...

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Were you able to find an exact match tire at TireRack? I have never seen the Goodyear Eagle Touring RunOnFlat tires listed on TR.
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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 10:20 PM
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Yes, it's a Goodyear Eagle Touring MOE.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ar=275%2F45-21

I have noticed that the front tires are wearing down much faster than the rear tires...
The supply of that tire must have increased. TireRack did not offer them earlier this year. As far as the front tires wearing faster... We must have wildly different driving habits. Or, is it possible that DT rotated your tires moving the rears to the front when they attempted the first repair on the tire you replaced?
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The front tires on my 580 SUV are wearing faster than the rear tires also.
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Old Oct 7, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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The front tires on my 580 SUV are wearing faster than the rear tires also.
The wear pattern on my EQS 450 4Matic SUV is the same as it was on my 2013 GL450 - rear right most wear, front left least wear. I frequently pulled a cargo trailer with the GL450. The biggest difference is that the tires are wearing almost twice as fast on the EQS SUV as they did on the GL450. If your SUV is fitted with staggered wheels then a significant difference between front and rear tire wear patterns can not be compensated for by rotating the tires.
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Old Oct 7, 2023 | 12:04 PM
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All 4 of my tires are 21” and are rotated every 5k miles. I doubt the Summer compound on my Goodyear tires will make it 20k miles.
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Old Oct 7, 2023 | 01:44 PM
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Just removed the wheel and dropped it off at discount tire for the tire swap. I also discovered that the rear brake pad is probably half way gone already, considering I only have 4k miles from July. The rear wheels also have a lot more brake dust than the front.

Has anyone replaced the brake pads on his/her EQS SUV yet?
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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by aquarian
Just removed the wheel and dropped it off at discount tire for the tire swap. I also discovered that the rear brake pad is probably half way gone already, considering I only have 4k miles from July. The rear wheels also have a lot more brake dust than the front.

Has anyone replaced the brake pads on his/her EQS SUV yet?
Excessive brake dust was the reason I turned off Active Steering Assist (ASA) and Active Lane Keeping Assist after driving the car for less than two months. When I checked the rear brake pad wear at around the 18K mile mark the outer pad was down to 7mm and the inner pad was at 6mm.

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Does anyone know where the jack points to lift the front or rear up? I need to put jack stands under 4 corners to rotate the tires. It a ridiculous wait time to get tires shop to rotate your tires so I might as well do it myself at home.

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Old Nov 15, 2023 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 23-EQS580-SUV
Does anyone know where the jack points to lift the front or rear up? I need to put jack stands under 4 corners to rotate the tires. It a ridiculous wait time to get tires shop to rotate your tires so I might as well do it myself at home.

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I am pretty sure that there are no central jack points in the front or rear. If you want to do tire rotations you will need two floor jacks, or a jack stand like Jack Point Jack Stands. If you have two sets of wheels, you could use one wheel from the extra set as a placeholder, but it will require a few extra steps.
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
Excessive brake dust was the reason I turned off Active Steering Assist (ASA) and Active Lane Keeping Assist after driving the car for less than two months. When I checked the rear brake pad wear at around the 18K mile mark the outer pad was down to 7mm and the inner pad was at 6mm.
The fast wear of the brake pads is quite surprising especially with a pretty strong regen braking option, and the ability of regen braking to blend in with the steel brakes in certain modes. Also curious how much turning off the Assist functions improved the dusting (in fact - why do these options contribute to dusting)?
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I change my rim at ~500 miles, I noticed brake pad and brake disc is about half the size of ice car. I spoke to my friends in the shop and he said it is normal as he saw over 100 ev and all of them only have thin brake pad and disc to reduce the cost.
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Just removed the wheel and dropped it off at discount tire for the tire swap. I also discovered that the rear brake pad is probably half way gone already, considering I only have 4k miles from July. The rear wheels also have a lot more brake dust than the front.

Has anyone replaced the brake pads on his/her EQS SUV yet?
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 02:28 PM
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Quick question do you have picture of the jack point cover that you removed to jack up the car? Had tires replaced at Discount Tire and they did not reinstall the jack point covers on my EQS 53.
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 05:28 PM
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I don't see covers for the jack points on my car.

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Quick question do you have picture of the jack point cover that you removed to jack up the car? Had tires replaced at Discount Tire and they did not reinstall the jack point covers on my EQS 53.
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
Excessive brake dust was the reason I turned off Active Steering Assist (ASA) and Active Lane Keeping Assist after driving the car for less than two months. When I checked the rear brake pad wear at around the 18K mile mark the outer pad was down to 7mm and the inner pad was at 6mm.
Every one of our cars since 2004 (Audi TT & S5, Merc C55 AMG and a Volvo XC60) has worn the rear brake pads way faster then the fronts. This is strange to me, having learned over years of track days and all that that the fronts should wear 2-4x the rate of the rears. I've been told that active cruise control causes it but most of our cars didn't have it, only the Volvo.

The American wife's AMG E53 with 90k miles is back to what I consider to get normal with about 1 mm left rear pads using the old rule of thumb to change pads when the friction material thickness matches the steel backing plate.
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Every one of our cars since 2004 (Audi TT & S5, Merc C55 AMG and a Volvo XC60) has worn the rear brake pads way faster then the fronts. This is strange to me, having learned over years of track days and all that that the fronts should wear 2-4x the rate of the rears. I've been told that active cruise control causes it but most of our cars didn't have it, only the Volvo.

The American wife's AMG E53 with 90k miles is back to what I consider to get normal with about 1 mm left rear pads using the old rule of thumb to change pads when the friction material thickness matches the steel backing plate.
I believe Active Lane Keeping Assist causes more wear on the rear brakes than Active Steering Assist does. Driving on the track does not really compare to driving the same distance on the Interstate highways. On the track you are using the front brakes to go from 100+ mph to 60 mph several times per lap. On the highway you can drive hundreds of miles without using the front brakes. But if Active Lane Keeping Assist is enabled the rear brakes will produce a lot of brake dust.

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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
I believe Active Lane Keeping Assist causes more wear on the rear brakes than Active Steering Assist does. Driving on the track does not really compare to driving the same distance on the Interstate highways. On the track you are using the front brakes to go from 100+ mph to 60 mph several times per lap. On the highway you can drive hundreds of miles without using the front brakes. But if Active Lane Keeping Assist is enabled the rear brakes will produce a lot of brake dust.
How does ALA/ASA cause rear brake wear?
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How does ALA/ASA cause rear brake wear?
Active Lane Keep Assist applies the brakes on one side in order to gently move the car to the center of the lane. Based upon the amount of brake dust on the wheels, the rear brakes seem to do more of the work.

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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
Active Lane Keep Assist applies the brakes on one side in order to gently move the car to the center of the lane. Based upon the amount of brake dust on the wheels, the rear brakes seem to do more of the work.

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I always thought the steering wheel what kept the car within the lane. many times, when changing lane without signal the steering wheel jerk the car back into its lane. I tried to drive with strong regenerative for one week without the use of the brake and my wheel still get covered in brake dust, so something is going on back there.
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