Thinking about trading in S580
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Thinking about trading in S580
HI,
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
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Can't really answer all your questions, but in regards to the 450 vs 580 power wise, the 450 is plenty, and may even be faster with the introduction of the AWD model for MY23. If you are not a speed demon and just need easy comfort and passing the 450 is plenty satisfactory there as the electric torque comes in quick.
As for the range, a lot of people here seem to be very impressed and getting great mileage. The winter will take a hit though depending on your location, but the EQS seems to beat its EPA range in testing.
@stealth.pilot @c4004matic @AppleFan1 @hlothery @Tjdehya are great sources of information for any and all EQS questions.
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@js_cls Thank you! I think I have to watch dealer inventory and then look and feel if it is right for me. I ordered 2 Mercedes and don't think I have the same leverage as far as trade in or other factors. Luckily I am not emotional about most add ins. I want comfort, heads up display and NOT black for the exterior, so I am open to see different builds at the dealers. I prefer 20" wheels, but am not locked into that either.
THANKS for your reply!
THANKS for your reply!
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HI,
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
The seats are just as comfortable for me. I am not really missing the Exclusive leather from my S550 coupe.. YMMV
"Regret" is not applicable in my case but I will say that the 450's power is not enough to make me consider keeping the 450 and canceling my 580 order. Its enough power but I don't buy luxury cars for "enough" power
The range is real, I think Tesla is the only one that gives unachievable numbers for their range. The EQS and the Porsche Taycan are both underrated and you will get more than the advertised numbers with normal driving.
I usually plug in and walk away to go shopping or eat. However this past weekend I sat in my car because it didn't work as desired on my previous visit. https://mbworld.org/forums/eqs/84035...ml#post8591474
I had an issue a couple months ago where two of the 4 chargers were broken. One was being used and the other was blocked but a dude in a VW ID4 who was already fully charged when I arrived, so I had to sit and wait for him to return 20mins later... Poor Charging etiquette on his part
Other than that I have not had an issue aside from my initial EA charging attempts
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Agree with all the above, however, one point you need to understand the 450 is noticeably slower than the S580
Not slow, but it is definitely less swift. On the other hand, the EQS 580 is actually faster then the S580. If you are from a very snowy clime you may want AWD. Materialwise, the S can be optioned significantly more plush, for a price, of course.. With the EQS Mercedes is attempting model bundling so there are less options. Regardless, the EQS is plenty plush. I drove the 450 on multiple occasions it drives with the exact same excellence as the 2 motor version. Unless you bury the pedal on a constant basis you would never know the difference. In 100% of normal driving the extra power of the 580 is not necessary. One thing you quickly learn anyway is that if you are constantly burying the pedal on the 580 is that the battery level shrinks just as fast! If there is something an EV trains you yo do is to drive conservatively so as to preserve range, particularly on the highway, 80 sucks a bit more battery than 70.....just saying😁
Not slow, but it is definitely less swift. On the other hand, the EQS 580 is actually faster then the S580. If you are from a very snowy clime you may want AWD. Materialwise, the S can be optioned significantly more plush, for a price, of course.. With the EQS Mercedes is attempting model bundling so there are less options. Regardless, the EQS is plenty plush. I drove the 450 on multiple occasions it drives with the exact same excellence as the 2 motor version. Unless you bury the pedal on a constant basis you would never know the difference. In 100% of normal driving the extra power of the 580 is not necessary. One thing you quickly learn anyway is that if you are constantly burying the pedal on the 580 is that the battery level shrinks just as fast! If there is something an EV trains you yo do is to drive conservatively so as to preserve range, particularly on the highway, 80 sucks a bit more battery than 70.....just saying😁
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HI,
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
I have a 2021 S580 that is really nice, but it has had a few glitches like I have now a message that the Left Window Airbag is Malfunctioning. I know it will be fixed, but future is electric and trade in values are still pretty good (or at least in the online estimators).
I have a few questions about the EQS.
Are the owners generally happy with the car?
I sat in one and the seats were not quite as comfortable as the 2021 S-Class (with Exclusive leather). I see there is a $1,300 upgrade leather, is that a better quality, or is it color options or more surfaces covered?
I have solar panels at home and generate an average 50-63 KWh a day and use about 2/3rd to 3/4 of that. I now drive about 5000 miles a year since retirement. Would the remaining energy cover charging for about 100 miles a week?
For mostly city driving is the 450 plenty of power, or do the 450 owners regret not buying the 580?
Is the range listed reality? In the city, on the highway?
If on a long trip, do you wait in the car while charging?
Have there been enough charging stations on long road trips?
Thanks to anyone that has answers to any of my questions!
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That made me laugh! 
Four great points. Thanks you!
Regardless, the EQS is plenty plush.
I drove the 450 on multiple occasions it drives with the exact same excellence as the 2 motor version.
Unless you bury the pedal on a constant basis you would never know the difference. In 100% of normal driving the extra power of the 580 is not necessary.
One thing you quickly learn anyway is that if you are constantly burying the pedal on the 580 is that the battery level shrinks just as fast!
I drove the 450 on multiple occasions it drives with the exact same excellence as the 2 motor version.
Unless you bury the pedal on a constant basis you would never know the difference. In 100% of normal driving the extra power of the 580 is not necessary.
One thing you quickly learn anyway is that if you are constantly burying the pedal on the 580 is that the battery level shrinks just as fast!
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May I ask, do most (if not all) EQS owners here in this forum have a driving history of the S-Class?
And, what is the general average age of the EQS owners here, with respect to the S-Class owners? Say, if x is the average age of the S-Class owners, what would that be here? x minus 5? x minus 10? A rough figure would do. This info should help me to understand the members' comment in a more accurate age context. Thanks.
And, what is the general average age of the EQS owners here, with respect to the S-Class owners? Say, if x is the average age of the S-Class owners, what would that be here? x minus 5? x minus 10? A rough figure would do. This info should help me to understand the members' comment in a more accurate age context. Thanks.
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May I ask, do most (if not all) EQS owners here in this forum have a driving history of the S-Class?
And, what is the general average age of the EQS owners here, with respect to the S-Class owners? Say, if x is the average age of the S-Class owners, what would that be here? x minus 5? x minus 10? A rough figure would do. This info should help me to understand the members' comment in a more accurate age context. Thanks.
And, what is the general average age of the EQS owners here, with respect to the S-Class owners? Say, if x is the average age of the S-Class owners, what would that be here? x minus 5? x minus 10? A rough figure would do. This info should help me to understand the members' comment in a more accurate age context. Thanks.
My feeling is that the EQS drivers are 5-10 years younger on average than the S Class drivers.
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450+ owner here coming from the BMW side. This is our first MB and we absolutely love the car. Previously owned a G80 M3, F90 M5, F80 M4, F10 M5 and E90 M3 along with a host of other high powered cars. I don't find the 450 underpowered at all. Plenty quick in daily driving and on the freeway.
FYI, at least here in SD the 450+ is part of the Costco car buying program. We ended up significantly below sticker for our purchase after a few other dealers wanted $10-15K over.
FYI, at least here in SD the 450+ is part of the Costco car buying program. We ended up significantly below sticker for our purchase after a few other dealers wanted $10-15K over.
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450+ owner here coming from the BMW side. This is our first MB and we absolutely love the car. Previously owned a G80 M3, F90 M5, F80 M4, F10 M5 and E90 M3 along with a host of other high powered cars. I don't find the 450 underpowered at all. Plenty quick in daily driving and on the freeway.
FYI, at least here in SD the 450+ is part of the Costco car buying program. We ended up significantly below sticker for our purchase after a few other dealers wanted $10-15K over.
FYI, at least here in SD the 450+ is part of the Costco car buying program. We ended up significantly below sticker for our purchase after a few other dealers wanted $10-15K over.
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Good guess! My guess owners are in their 50s. I have been looking for an EV with sufficient range for a while. Im not team Musk so Tesla was not an option. When I saw the specs on the EQS I knew this was the right moment. Im still a little leery of software bugaboos (MB is famous for them) but I decided to take the chance anyway. Ive owned dozens of cars and I must admit this is the best driving vehicle I have ever owned or driven, it is indeed a homerun. Aside from the restrictive sightlines the car is otherwise pretty much perfect. My only hope is that it turns out to be reliable. Now that Teslas Supercharger Network is opening to other brands I have zero issues with range anxiety, pretty much assured I can drive anywhere on a whim, just as in an ICE car.
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Glad to hear you like it!
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Just realized I didn't answer your question about whether I like the car. I LOVE it. I am actually on my second one now - I bought one off the lot in February which was a more basic build. I just sold it and took delivery of my second one which was build-to-order car with all the options I wanted. It's an amazing car. It's like a more performance oriented S-Class, with the smoothness and efficiency only an EV can deliver. I prefer the interior too because you get a nice center console with wood trim instead of black plastic. Also the hyper screen looks better integrated than the stick-on tablets in the S-Class,
In my opinion this is THE luxury sedan to own right now.
In my opinion this is THE luxury sedan to own right now.
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The center console on my S-Class is black plastic and I really dislike (hate?) that. I posted another thread about what option allowed the wood console door and it appears to be available on the EQS580 with the Hyperscreen. I am thinking I would be OK with an EQS450, but that plastic bothers me. I guess I have to browse the So Cal Mercedes websites and look at the builds and prices and see what works for me.
Thanks for your reply!
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Yea, I think the EQS seems to be well liked. The body style is a little on the wedge shape that is different then most S-Class, but it is actually nice looking, not as nice as the W223, but nice. Like you say it is the car to have now, but if Mercedes changes it soon, it will not have the same likability as the W223 vs W222. BMW usually has nice looking new models but they come out with the next new models so soon that they make the last style look dated too soon. Mercedes are more "classic" or "stately", but the EQS has an aggressive style. As long as it doesn't change too soon, I think it will have long term acceptance.
The center console on my S-Class is black plastic and I really dislike (hate?) that. I posted another thread about what option allowed the wood console door and it appears to be available on the EQS580 with the Hyperscreen. I am thinking I would be OK with an EQS450, but that plastic bothers me. I guess I have to browse the So Cal Mercedes websites and look at the builds and prices and see what works for me.
Thanks for your reply!
The center console on my S-Class is black plastic and I really dislike (hate?) that. I posted another thread about what option allowed the wood console door and it appears to be available on the EQS580 with the Hyperscreen. I am thinking I would be OK with an EQS450, but that plastic bothers me. I guess I have to browse the So Cal Mercedes websites and look at the builds and prices and see what works for me.
Thanks for your reply!
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Yea, I think the EQS seems to be well liked. The body style is a little on the wedge shape that is different then most S-Class, but it is actually nice looking, not as nice as the W223, but nice. Like you say it is the car to have now, but if Mercedes changes it soon, it will not have the same likability as the W223 vs W222. BMW usually has nice looking new models but they come out with the next new models so soon that they make the last style look dated too soon. Mercedes are more "classic" or "stately", but the EQS has an aggressive style. As long as it doesn't change too soon, I think it will have long term acceptance.
The center console on my S-Class is black plastic and I really dislike (hate?) that. I posted another thread about what option allowed the wood console door and it appears to be available on the EQS580 with the Hyperscreen. I am thinking I would be OK with an EQS450, but that plastic bothers me. I guess I have to browse the So Cal Mercedes websites and look at the builds and prices and see what works for me.
Thanks for your reply!
The center console on my S-Class is black plastic and I really dislike (hate?) that. I posted another thread about what option allowed the wood console door and it appears to be available on the EQS580 with the Hyperscreen. I am thinking I would be OK with an EQS450, but that plastic bothers me. I guess I have to browse the So Cal Mercedes websites and look at the builds and prices and see what works for me.
Thanks for your reply!
