EQS resale value just went up
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I suppose they first have to figure out how to build enough EVs to supply such a market. As it stands, the industry is running out of lithium. Since the ban only affects new car sales, I'm not sure used EV resale values will go up. One can still buy used ICE cars after 2035. New car prices may skyrocket, though, due to limited supply.
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I suppose they first have to figure out how to build enough EVs to supply such a market. As it stands, the industry is running out of lithium. Since the ban only affects new car sales, I'm not sure used EV resale values will go up. One can still buy used ICE cars after 2035. New car prices may skyrocket, though, due to limited supply.
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Yes but high new car prices mean high used car prices. That is the lesson of the last couple of years.
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Its very likely the 450, they are harder to move because RWD has become a bad word all of the sudden and customers refuse to buy RWD cars now (even though a RWD car with excellent winter tires will perform very well), hence why MB is introducing the 450 4Matic model which should help with demand. The 580's are very hard to get, especially at sticker.
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California leads the nation in its "Ready, Fire, Aim" approach as it moves towards future modernization.
Besides government mandates such as quoted by the OP, some cities in CA announced LAST YEAR they will no longer issue building permits for gasoline stations.
Using governmental brute force to bend the minds of the natural marketplace will seriously backfire and disable the state someday in the near future. It's hard to predict what will actually break first. Might be the electrical infrastructure, might be technology, might be lack of natural resources to support electric vehicles...maybe one of these or combinations of these........It certainly will be interesting to watch it from the sidelines of another state.
Besides government mandates such as quoted by the OP, some cities in CA announced LAST YEAR they will no longer issue building permits for gasoline stations.
Using governmental brute force to bend the minds of the natural marketplace will seriously backfire and disable the state someday in the near future. It's hard to predict what will actually break first. Might be the electrical infrastructure, might be technology, might be lack of natural resources to support electric vehicles...maybe one of these or combinations of these........It certainly will be interesting to watch it from the sidelines of another state.
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California leads the nation in its "Ready, Fire, Aim" approach as it moves towards future modernization.
Besides government mandates such as quoted by the OP, some cities in CA announced LAST YEAR they will no longer issue building permits for gasoline stations.
Using governmental brute force to bend the minds of the natural marketplace will seriously backfire and disable the state someday in the near future. It's hard to predict what will actually break first. Might be the electrical infrastructure, might be technology, might be lack of natural resources to support electric vehicles...maybe one of these or combinations of these........It certainly will be interesting to watch it from the sidelines of another state.
Besides government mandates such as quoted by the OP, some cities in CA announced LAST YEAR they will no longer issue building permits for gasoline stations.
Using governmental brute force to bend the minds of the natural marketplace will seriously backfire and disable the state someday in the near future. It's hard to predict what will actually break first. Might be the electrical infrastructure, might be technology, might be lack of natural resources to support electric vehicles...maybe one of these or combinations of these........It certainly will be interesting to watch it from the sidelines of another state.
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From my anecdotal experience, dealers in the Northeast have been getting WAY more 580s then 450s.
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Most Northeast dealers will DX (dealer exchange) any EQS 450’s or any non 4Matic cars they receive, RWD cars do not sell here anymore and the dealers do not want inventory sitting that they can’t sell.
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Just provides ammunition to people who like to live in the past. Like you.
Innovation requires raising the pressure on the system. And in this case, the innovation will save the planet and save mankind.
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I see you're not in California, so I bet you don't have to stay home tonight and renew your Netflix subscription.
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The more major concern I have is not the adoption to EVs, it's whether the infrastructure can support them.
My hat is off to anyone who has rounded that corner already, or completely ignored it and went ahead anyway. I will be there when I see what I need to see to be confident I am making a good move, but a "naysayer" I am not. It's my opinion California is making some bad decisions by forcing things too fast.
In the meantime, participation here is educational. I'm learning more than I could have just jumping to conclusions.
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“It is only a question of a short time when the carriages and trucks of every large city will be run by motors. The expense of keeping and feeding horses in a great city like New York is very heavy, and all this will be done away with. You must remember that every invention of this kind which is made adds to the general wealth by introducing a new system of greater economy of force. A great invention which facilitates commerce, enriches a country just as much as the discovery of vast hoards of gold.”
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I don't think the horse and carriage is a valid parallel. Back then they weren't using petrol to power people's homes and industries. The internal combustion engine was completely new, using a fuel that wasn't widely in use already. Remember it won over electric horseless carriages. It's not like it ran on hay and people already had trouble getting enough hay for their horses. But that's the situation we are in today. We are switching cars to an energy source that's already widely in use and we already have issues powering everything today that depends on it. The power outages are already happening around here in California today, because the grid can't handle the existing demand. Not to mention that the national electric grid was never designed to last this long. Not sure if people are aware of this, but it's way past its originally planned lifetime. Multiple times over actually.
Not saying we won't get there, but it's likely we won't rebuild the grid in the next 13 years. California couldn't even build a new Bay Bridge in less than 20 years.
Not saying we won't get there, but it's likely we won't rebuild the grid in the next 13 years. California couldn't even build a new Bay Bridge in less than 20 years.
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