Recuperation for breaking
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Recuperation for breaking
I use the paddle shifters (the handles behind the steering) wheel to break, then shift "up" to "no recuperation" when the light turns green. I have a 2023 AMG EQS. Basically I'm using these shifters like I would a gear controller - shift down when coming to a stop, shift up when accelerating. I use them numerous times every drive (every time I break, I shift down all the way to full recuperation then back up). Almost never touch the brake pedal. Am I overusing them? Are they not meant to be used as such, and I'm therefore "wearing them out"? Thanks!
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What does shifting to no recuperation do for acceleration? Changing the program to sport mode makes a difference in acceleration but what you are doing I believe does nothing going from a stop at all.
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It makes the car at least feel it has a much stronger pick up relative to if full recuperation or even normal is left on. But my question is more about the intended use of these different modes - are they meant to be changed once in a long while, like keep the same on in the city, and change to another when you go on the highway... or is it ok to use them like I do - all the time, constantly switching between them like a gear box.
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I cannot answer your question but in my recent experience I get the best mileage using the intelligent mode on the highway where I can coast a lot and the strong mode in stop and go city traffic.
I do understand what you are experiencing. The accelerator pedal feels a lot different in the two extreme modes.
I do understand what you are experiencing. The accelerator pedal feels a lot different in the two extreme modes.
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So I was thinking the same thing - nice not to wear out the brake pads, but doesn't "strong recuperation" use the brake pads too? You're just not pressing the brake pedal, but the brakes are still being applied, no?
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If you press the brake pedal, you will get mechanical brakes in proportion to the max regen. The brakes get a lot less wear since most of the baking action is being done by the regen.
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I think there is no mechanical braking (regardless of the recuperation setting) unless you get above about 0.6 or 0.7Gs. There is no reason for mechanical braking (reduce speed and generate heat) if one can simply reduce speed and generate current in the motor.
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I think the mechanical brakes are being used, and that is why the pedal feels different when you do depress it in strong regen. Be that as it may, I use the paddles similarly, although not as actively as you do. i change to strong regen whenever I see traffic slowing, so that I can OPD, and shift back out of it when the road is clear. But I do not use it for every stop, since braking also uses regen and generates electricity. I'm totally not worried about brake pads.
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UTOPIA TEXAS,,,,,,,,I'd never tried the Intelligent mode on the interstate before today. I tried all the others before on trips from Ft Worth to Eastland, so I had something to compare 'Intelligent Mode with.
I"ve convinced myself today that Intelligent Mode is the best for interstate driving and Strong for around town. So I agree with your recommendation,
I"ve convinced myself today that Intelligent Mode is the best for interstate driving and Strong for around town. So I agree with your recommendation,
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When you are in Intelligent Mode and there is no one ahead of you it is amazing how far you can glide when you take your foot off the accelerator pedal. It is as if there is no friction internally in the running gear or wheels.
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What occasions or conditions give you an opportunity for “gliding?”
As described, I haven’t been able to think of any - probably need a push to jog my approach.
As described, I haven’t been able to think of any - probably need a push to jog my approach.
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Going down hills, overpasses and taking your foot off the accelerator pedal long before you need to stop. Just the opposite of how my son drives. He is either stomping on the accelerator pedal or stomping on the brake pedal with nothing in between.
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In my usual driving area, if I were to use Intelligent Regeneration, I would have to use my foot brake a great deal. As it is, Normal is better for 95% and Strong better, if there’s no traffic behind me, for the balance.
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In my usual driving area, if I were to use Intelligent Regeneration, I would have to use my foot brake a great deal. As it is, Normal is better for 95% of my driving and Strong better, if there’s no traffic behind me, for the balance.
Re driving like your son: I am frequently surprised at people (including my dear wife) not understanding that the best way to better gas (or power) mileage is to minimize the use of the brake pedal.
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The only thing I miss from the Taycan is the no regeneration default - everything was done through the brake pedal. It gives a surreal perception that the car is floating when you are coasting. I know a lot of people enjoy the one-pedal driving - I did too on my first 3 Tesla's. After the Taycan and the EQS it irritates me when I drive my wife's model - coming down a slope or coasting to a traffic light you have to keep the foot on acceleration at a precise level just to adjust to a speed you like.
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I'm Strong Regen 100% of the time. During the summer months I really didn't notice a hit to the mileage using strong regen as I was averaging 425 per charge. It is fantastic using it during mountain driving. Windy roads coupled with Strong regen and the 10% rear wheel turn and the car just seems to float around curves. The one petal technique seemed foreign to me two months ago, now I can't live without it.
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I'm seeing a number of reviews stating the EQS doesn't have a one-pedal drive mode. I had to turn off 'creep mode' and turn on strong regen - could it be that the press cars and drivers aren't setting it up to operate that way?
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mode as you described. Could not find this in the manual though.
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I’ve learned more about this car in this forum than reading the manual. I was leery about one pedal driving but turned off creep mode and use strong recouperation based on suggestions from the forum. I pretty much don’t drive using any other method and have got quite comfortable using strong recoup all the time. One thing I still wish they would fix is to allow last selected recuperation on start up. I don’t know how many times I start the car and take off forgetting to set it to strong and wonder why when I come to a stop sign it doesn’t slow down. I actually think this may be a safety issue as I expect the car to be in strong recoup and it’s in normal.
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I’ve learned more about this car in this forum than reading the manual. I was leery about one pedal driving but turned off creep mode and use strong recouperation based on suggestions from the forum. I pretty much don’t drive using any other method and have got quite comfortable using strong recoup all the time. One thing I still wish they would fix is to allow last selected recuperation on start up. I don’t know how many times I start the car and take off forgetting to set it to strong and wonder why when I come to a stop sign it doesn’t slow down. I actually think this may be a safety issue as I expect the car to be in strong recoup and it’s in normal.
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I use no recuperation mode as I came from a Porsche electric and that is what Porsche prefers. In fact, they don't offer one pedal driving. However, when I use the brake, the car recoups and rarely does it engage the mechanical brakes. I think the choice of different recoup modes provides the driver a choice of what he prefers, but the underlying process is the same, i.e the car uses recuperation preferentially where ever possible.
