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Which 110V Mobile Charger works best?

Old Jan 20, 2023 | 02:03 PM
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Which 110V Mobile Charger works best?

I asked our dealer about the MB 110V 'emergency charging' cable, and they said MB doesn't make it anymore. Which third-party charging cable are you using? I can't install a 220V/permanent charging setup for now, so 110V trickle charging will have to do (I can live with 3mi/hr).

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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 03:34 PM
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I bought a portable charger with the Shell brand name off Amazon.. It came with 2 plugs, one for a regular 110 outlet the other is a 15- 40 plug. I also use my Tesla portable charger from a previous vehicle.
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by klondike616
I bought a portable charger with the Shell brand name off Amazon.. It came with 2 plugs, one for a regular 110 outlet the other is a 15- 40 plug. I also use my Tesla portable charger from a previous vehicle.
What kind of adapter do you use with your Tesla portable charger?
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eqs
I asked our dealer about the MB 110V 'emergency charging' cable, and they said MB doesn't make it anymore. Which third-party charging cable are you using? I can't install a 220V/permanent charging setup for now, so 110V trickle charging will have to do (I can live with 3mi/hr).

I almost bought https://www.amazon.com/Lectron-Level...dp/B08HHBDQ88/, but it has some recent 'my charger melted' reviews.
I got two with my BMW. The regular "Brick" and this one. Works fine as a back up / Emergency.....



https://www.google.com/shopping/prod...HQa_CLIQ2SsIFQ
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 06:15 PM
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I bought the Jdapter stub 40 amps rated

https://qccharge.com/products/jdapter-stub
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 08:28 PM
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Buying a 110 charger is idiotic. But a Ford 110/220 one. Never use the 110 dongle since its useless.
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 09:27 PM
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From my reading the usefulness of a 110v cord depends on how large the battery is, how many days you have available and how much battery loss you have in a particular model car just while it is sitting.

For example on the Lucid forum folks were complaining that their Lucid Airs were losing 4-5 percent battery level every day just sitting because the cars computers were starting and stopping heating and cooling cycles for the batteries. In effect a 110v set up could not keep up with such a discharge.

On the other hand I have read of a Tesla Model 3 user who has gone to Big Bend National Park here in Texas and gets just enough charge from a 110v system overnight to get around during the day. He just ran a extension cord out of his room window to the car. How He managed this I do not know as distances out there are huge. I personally think the 110v charger is a waste unless I only drove once or twice a month but to each his own.

For my own piece of mind I carry a level 2 Ford Mach E cord which has the standard 14-50 plug that will fit any RV park or camping site receptacle and a adapter for the Tesla Destination chargers found at many hotels.

PS-The Ford Mustang set up also contains a adapter to use on 110v.

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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 11:42 PM
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I agree a 110V/220V charger makes more sense than just L1. I believe the BMW charger linked above is a rebranded version of this one: https://store.evsolutions.com/turboc...arger-p28.aspx. Going to give it a try.


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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
Buying a 110 charger is idiotic. But a Ford 110/220 one. Never use the 110 dongle since its useless.
I don't disagree with much of what you say, but I do disagree with your first sentence. The OP stated he could not have a 220/240 line installed at this time, and had to rely on 110. I used the Mercedes 110v charger which came with my car for three weeks, until I got my charger and installed 240v line, and it actually worked quite well. It gave me about 9% charge each day, if I left the car plugged in all the time at home, and that was enough for my local travels in the car until my charging station was operational. However, having said this, I do like the idea of the Ford charger, which will do either.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by eqs
I agree a 110V/220V charger makes more sense than just L1. I believe the BMW charger linked above is a rebranded version of this one: https://store.evsolutions.com/turboc...arger-p28.aspx. Going to give it a try.
The reason I do not like the BMW setup is that the prongs come out directly from the case and there are some, very few, electrical sockets with flip up weather covers where the prongs would not go in far enough to use. Also for $75 more the Ford Mach E charger is set up for Level 2 with the common 14-50 plug so you get the best of both worlds.

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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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I use the ford mobile charger that has both 110 and 220v. My commute is only 20miles round trip and 110 worked flawlessly. The car always ready in the morning. When my 14-50 was installed I just switched to 220v. After my Chargepoint Homeflex was installed the Ford charger went in my truck as a backup for road-trips.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 12:32 PM
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Thanks for all the answers. I just ordered the Ford charger because of the NEMA 14-50/32A option. I searched for it online and didn't want to order it from an online-only store. Once I found the latest part number: LJ9Z-10C830-L, it was easy to order it directly from Ford: https://accessories.ford.com/products/charge-cord-1.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eqs
Thanks for all the answers. I just ordered the Ford charger because of the NEMA 14-50/32A option. I searched for it online and didn't want to order it from an online-only store. Once I found the latest part number: LJ9Z-10C830-L, it was easy to order it directly from Ford: https://accessories.ford.com/products/charge-cord-1.
Good choice. I wish there was a 9.5 KW mobile charger, but I don't know of any. The Ford does nicely, and you are assured a full "tank" overnight regardless of how empty it is when you started your charge.
If you live in an area where there are no DC chargers its a must if you are going to use your car as a sole vehicle. On 110 your EQS is simply a street lega,l very nice, golf kart.

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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eqs
Thanks for all the answers. I just ordered the Ford charger because of the NEMA 14-50/32A option. I searched for it online and didn't want to order it from an online-only store. Once I found the latest part number: LJ9Z-10C830-L, it was easy to order it directly from Ford: https://accessories.ford.com/products/charge-cord-1.
Pardon my ignorance but is a 220 nothing more than a 3 prong charger? If so, where can you charge your car? Hotels? I assume you will get charged ($) for this. I don’t really see what good this type of cable charger does if you’re making an all day trip but not staying at a hotel. There must be more to it than what I’m making it to be.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 07:09 PM
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Pardon my ignorance but is a 220 nothing more than a 3 prong charger? If so, where can you charge your car? Hotels? I assume you will get charged ($) for this. I don’t really see what good this type of cable charger does if you’re making an all day trip but not staying at a hotel. There must be more to it than what I’m making it to be.
You use the available Level 3 chargers on the road and the Level 2 and Level 1 cable is for back up on the road for places there are no level 3 and for use at home. The Level 2 and Level 1 cables are a guarantee you don’t get stuck out in the middle of no where with no way to charge. This Summer I plan on a trip to Big Bend National Park where the closest Level 3 charger is over 190 miles away one way. The park is 802,000 acres so there is a lot of driving between hiking areas.

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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 07:58 PM
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220 V is the most common public plug. All campgrounds have them. The majority are of the NEMA 14 50 variety. Again, even more plentiful, of course, are level 2 chargers in hotels, parking lots, and so on. Your mobile charger is your last line of defense from getting stranded somewhere.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 08:06 PM
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I carry: the Ford 110/220, a 6/50 adapter AND a Tesla tap. I have never used them because I needed to. I use the Ford when I go to our lake home, but that should also be a bonus soon since I ordered another Chargepoint Flex for there too. Don't forget to download the Plug Share app which is, by far, the easiest way to find chargers anywhere
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 08:25 PM
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Besides carrying the Ford set up and the Tesla Tap I also have a Level 2 Grizzl-E charger here at home and our weekend house. I charge at these two places 99% of the time. There is a local level 3 charger I pass 4 times a week 17 miles from home but all 4 spaces are full every time I pass by.
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I carry: the Ford 110/220, a 6/50 adapter AND a Tesla tap. I have never used them because I needed to. I use the Ford when I go to our lake home, but that should also be a bonus soon since I ordered another Chargepoint Flex for there too. Don't forget to download the Plug Share app which is, by far, the easiest way to find chargers anywhere
I am having my second ChargePoint flex installed thru Tuesday. I love the charger. Only drawback I have found is that you can’t put two chargers on the same app. I called ChargePoint help line and they say you have to create a second account with a different email address. Said they would pass along the request to have the app support two chargers on the same account. Won’t be much of a problem for me as I winter in Florida and summer in RI so I would have to sign in and out of my accounts twice a year. If I was going to a local lake house every other week or so it would be a pain signing in and out of accounts so often.
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I am having my second ChargePoint flex installed thru Tuesday. I love the charger. Only drawback I have found is that you can’t put two chargers on the same app. I called ChargePoint help line and they say you have to create a second account with a different email address. Said they would pass along the request to have the app support two chargers on the same account. Won’t be much of a problem for me as I winter in Florida and summer in RI so I would have to sign in and out of my accounts twice a year. If I was going to a local lake house every other week or so it would be a pain signing in and out of accounts so often.
I suspected as much. Thanks for confirming.Ill just put the second account on the wife's email​​​​​​​

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Old Jan 22, 2023 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
220 V is the most common public plug. All campgrounds have them. The majority are of the NEMA 14 50 variety. Again, even more plentiful, of course, are level 2 chargers in hotels, parking lots, and so on. Your mobile charger is your last line of defense from getting stranded somewhere.
I’m really lost on the portable charging cables. If you have a 220V charging cable and are on a trip, I still don’t understand how you use it, say at a parking lot for example. Is it as simple as plugging one end of the charging cable to the car and the other end into a wall outlet just like the level 1 which came with the EQS? Or is there a charger there that one needs to plug the potable charging cable to? Is an adapter needed? Is there some sort of video demonstrating how and to what the 220 cable is connected to? Thanks in advance for the patience you guys are having with me on this topic.
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All the charging mechanisms, the brains, are installed in the car. All you really need are the cables. People buy the “wall” units mostly to get a app. for the convenience to regulate the time to start charging when one lives in a area where electrical cost at home is less at night. You can get by, by just using the cables only.

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Old Jan 22, 2023 | 09:19 AM
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I’m really lost on the portable charging cables. If you have a 220V charging cable and are on a trip, I still don’t understand how you use it, say at a parking lot for example. Is it as simple as plugging one end of the charging cable to the car and the other end into a wall outlet just like the level 1 which came with the EQS? Or is there a charger there that one needs to plug the potable charging cable to? Is an adapter needed? Is there some sort of video demonstrating how and to what the 220 cable is connected to? Thanks in advance for the patience you guys are having with me on this topic.
In order to charge level 2 with a portable, one has to find a 220V source, such as a NEMA 14-50 plug. These are available at most camping sites across the nation, because that is what campers use. If you find one, you can charge just as you do with your home wallbox charger. However, if not, 110v is a much slower option, as I described in my post above. It works, just very slowly. Never seen a NEMA 14-50 outlet by itself in a parking lot or parking garage, but there are often level 2 charging stations with a wallbox in some of them. My understanding is that portables like the Ford cable allow you to use either a normal 110 plug, or a NEMA 14-50 for 220v if you can find one. Either way, yes, you just plug it in and plug into the car and charge. Hope this helps.
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In order to charge level 2 with a portable, one has to find a 220V source, such as a NEMA 14-50 plug. These are available at most camping sites across the nation, because that is what campers use. If you find one, you can charge just as you do with your home wallbox charger. However, if not, 110v is a much slower option, as I described in my post above. It works, just very slowly. Never seen a NEMA 14-50 outlet by itself in a parking lot or parking garage, but there are often level 2 charging stations with a wallbox in some of them. My understanding is that portables like the Ford cable allow you to use either a normal 110 plug, or a NEMA 14-50 for 220v if you can find one. Either way, yes, you just plug it in and plug into the car and charge. Hope this helps.
A portable chager is what you use when there id no level 2 charger. You plug one side to the wall the ither to the car. Exactly like you do with the Mercedes one. There are 2 common 220 plugs. In homes the common drier 220v is a 6/50. 14/50 you will find in places like RV parks. RV parks use the 14-50 since that plug can provive not only 220 but also 110 depending on the prong configuration you are using! That is why Tesla and Fords mobile charger have multiple dongles a 110 AND a 220 14-50. You could even use a tesla mobile charger if you wanted to! But, of course, you would need an adater (Tesla Tap).
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In order to charge level 2 with a portable, one has to find a 220V source, such as a NEMA 14-50 plug. These are available at most camping sites across the nation, because that is what campers use. If you find one, you can charge just as you do with your home wallbox charger. However, if not, 110v is a much slower option, as I described in my post above. It works, just very slowly. Never seen a NEMA 14-50 outlet by itself in a parking lot or parking garage, but there are often level 2 charging stations with a wallbox in some of them. My understanding is that portables like the Ford cable allow you to use either a normal 110 plug, or a NEMA 14-50 for 220v if you can find one. Either way, yes, you just plug it in and plug into the car and charge. Hope this helps.
Thank you so much for this explanation. The confusing part for me was this: I figured that something similar to a ChargePoint wall flex charger has its own cord, so why do you need a level 2 charging cable.

Yes I know all about the 110 cable being extremely slow. But believe it or not, I used it at my daughter’s house near Akron. Since I didn't drive the EQS580 very much while there, the 110V cable did its job. I made sure that the car was charged at 100% on the return trip by plugging it in on several consecutive nights.

I do have the Plug Share app so I suppose, it will tell me where these 220V chargers are located. The next step is for me to buy one of these cables from Ford just in case I need to charge the car and there are no EA stations anywhere close.
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