js_cls

I’m just saying the collision notifications can be set off by things that aren’t collisions. For example, when the cars come off the truck at the dealer sometimes they have been set off due to how they are loaded/unloaded. My S-Class once alerted me of a collision, but it turns out that when I was parked inside a garage, that the car next to me with a very loud modified exhaust was the culprit. Its a feature that hopefully you’ll never need but is handy if something bad does happen. However I have heard from another owner that sometimes it can be set off by a car lift purely because the car’s electronics detect that it was somehow off the ground.

vhooloo

Indeed looks like they put it on the lift. I called the dealer and they confirmed the car was pushed in and put on the lift.

SW20S

They just rely on shock, so when a shock is registered they register as a collision. So a lift, etc may set them off. I have collision detection through a aftermarket dashcam and it sometimes registers slamming a door.

Wolfman

Which is actually a good thing. At least there are sensors in the car that register g-force and noise when not driving. Similar to how dash cams report parking mode interactions.

Radman991

Depends on what you mean by accurate. They are very sensitive. I had my car trucked to Florida from RI and I inadvertently armed the sensors midway en route. I also got a warning that car was in collision. I immediately called the driver who assured me there was no collision. Sure enough, it was the shaking of the car on the truck that set off the alarm. I did a through inspection of the car and not a scratch. Someone also posted by jacking their car up to change a tire also set off the collision warning.

Utopia Texas

That was me jacking up my 580 SUV to change a tire and the collision detector went off.

vhooloo

Dealer just called. The whole front end motor will need to be replaced. They don't have the parts and they think it may take up to 2 months. So right now I am as yellow as a Lemon.

LasVegas_89135

A few days ago I was in my garage, standing next to my EQS SUV (not even touching it) and and received a Collision Alert.

Tjdehya

Start the lemon process early. Start it even if you haven't hit the 30days.
If you are lucky MB may have the dealer buy it back. That will be a whole lot quicker and easier than if MB has to buy it back.
Monday morning call and ask to speaker to the dealership GM.

J_Boxer

Cash-back rebates are one of the most effective ways to incentivize potential car buyers to make a purchase. Despite this, manufacturers are often reluctant to offer them, given that it is often perceived as an indication that a particular model is underperforming in terms of sales. The greater the rebate offered, the weaker the sales for a given model. As such, the decision to offer rebates is usually reserved for models that are experiencing slow sales.

In many cases, automakers use incentives as a means of driving sales for models that are underperforming. However, giving cash rebates can be viewed as a signal of a particular model's poor sales performance and can be damaging to a brand's reputation. To avoid this, some manufacturers choose to provide incentives through "hidden" channels, such as dealer incentives and low APR financing. Dealer incentives are essentially bonuses given to dealers for selling underperforming models and are preferred by many luxury car brands as an alternative to cash-back rebates.

That being said, it's for those very reasons that I was more attracted to getting an EQS. "Full price for this car? Not a chance. But do I enjoy it nonetheless? Absolutely. It's the difference between choking on a $112k price tag but drooling over a steal at $77k. Smart shopping, if you ask me!" At first, I was put off by the looks, and then when I saw the pricing, I knew that there would be challenges moving these models at some point, not to mention the fact that as an EV, which tends to be a second car in many households, buyers are less likely as a whole to clamor for the jelly bean at close to full price. Especially when there are significantly more attractive EVs at this price point that have much more curb appeal. That being said, the jelly bean has grown on me, and the opportunity to attain one at a cost that would cause your jaw to drop is the only reason I even considered this car. So far, I really like it, and the looks are growing on me. Most of us would jump at the opportunity to take one home, and I did just that, but only because I snagged a deal that was similar to what I was paying for my 22 Lexus ES 350 Ultra luxury, a car that MSRP's for $56k, and I'm driving a $112k car for the same price as I was paying for my Lexus. No brainer, and I'm thrilled!

J_Boxer

How about this:

"I think the new ad campaign should go something like this:

"Don't fall for the trap, just give leasing a slap! Choose lease, not buy - and watch your bank account fly!"

nath_h

I just read an article about this yesterday. Apparently MB made a lot of EQS cars, and didn't make a lot of EV's on their lower tier like the EQB. Most of the rich enthusiastic early adopter folks have already bought their new EV (ie all of us here), and the market is slowly turning toward more widespread adoption of EV's. Interest rates and a slowing economy are not doing any favors for people outside of the richest 1% buying cars. And, apparently MB is offering very little lease support on the EQS, still. I found the original lot label in my car asking $165,000--a $20,000 'market adjustment'...what a scam. I was recently shopping for another car (ended up buying an EQB) but was very surprised how many dealers are still wanting market adjustments, supported by the usual lies about how whatever car is in hot demand. As for jelly beans and people not liking the shape, to each his/her own. The car is a spaceship, and I feel lucky to have it.

J_Boxer

My market adjustment was -$35,166. $112,295 - 35,166 = $77,129.

stealth.pilot

Well done.

noobified

Great cars. Horrible assets. These are computers on wheels, and technology is evolving quickly. Whatever you think is great about them now is going to be very basic in a year. Lease them, enjoy them, and get a newer, better one after your lease ends. Rinse and repeat.

lenk

He hit the nail on the head. Electric cars are like all other tech products i.e. T.V's. It is the only sector where there is constant deflation. The technology changes at a stark pace and as economies of scale increase prices decrease. Remember the first plasma flat screens were $15,000 15 years ago, now the same size flat screen is $300. ICE cars have already plateaued economies of scale because the infrastructure has been in place since the model T and relatively speaking there has been very little change in the technology of ICE vehicles (again relatively speaking). If flat screen TV's never improved as they still do, then their prices would stabilize.

nath_h

Yup, agree about the TV analogy. I was at the dealer yesterday, and my SA mentioned that they recently took in a 2022 EQS w/ 12,000 miles for $40,000. Big ouch, but I assume this was not a Pinnacle 580. If you can now score a highly optioned EQS for anything around $80,000 or below...wow, what a car for the money. Considering many totally lame ice cars cost nearly $100,000 or above (Ram pickup anyone w/ cloth seats for $83,000?), the EQS would be an epic value of car/performance for the money. I'd encourage everyone again to just chill on the resale if you plan to keep it, as we do. I hope to run it all the way to 120,000 miles, when my extended warranty expires, and the cost is fine when broken down over such a long period of time. If the car were to get totaled in an accident....that would be very unfortunate to receive a pittance insurance payout.

SW20S

My problem is I still have to want the car I choose, a great deal is great, but looking back on my car in the parking lot and saying “man that is so cheap” doesn’t do it for me.

Av2987

I recently bought a 2022 EQS 580 with 3,400 miles CPO, for $89,500. The original MSRP was $137,000. There are plenty of used ones for sale with low miles. I used Cargurs.com and negotiated. It is a buyers market. The prices are dropping every week.

fantasy521

Good job! If I were to buy one I'd done the same EQS450 with 8k miles for high 60K to low 70k range.

I leased a new one for great price so when my lease is done
1. I return it and leave it
2. I can deal with MB to lower the initial buyout (they often do... they don't want to send it to auction and if they agree I can buy it out for cheap.

icwhatudidthere

That's interesting, are you negotiating with the dealership or with MBFS directly?

ILoveNY

I find the cheap EQS450s are the RWD ones, 4matic ones hold their value well.

fantasy521

The 4 Matics are 23 only. The 23 still hasn't gone down as much as the 22.
Also I live in CA so RWD is perfect for me.

fantasy521

I'm going to look into it next year when my lease is over but I heard people in the forum do both. However, they all said it happens just a few days before the lease turn in.

MBNUT1

IDK the cheaper they are the prettier they look...