W205C43PFL

Ouch, true. Wonder if dealership's insurance will do anything about it, like if the battery is completely dead and I mean unable to charge anymore, mechanically totaled?

Crito

I double checked and you're right "The warranty period starts on the date the vehicle is delivered to the first retail purchaser.." but there's a clause at the very end that states ".. but no later than 18 months from the vehicle production date." So if you buy a year and a half old EV they could, legally, !@#$ you. And since the new models usually come out the previous fall, that might even include a brand new 2022 EQ.

Caveat emptor!

W205C43PFL

What! Glad you noticed it but why such a limitation?

Mort

One way or another MB will probably claim that any battery failure will be the result of the way you treated the car and not the way it was treated before you purchased it.

W205C43PFL

The ecu or even better a "blackbox?" will record everything only problem is MB is the only one who have access to it but if authorities need access to it MB must comply right?

Mort

Let's hope it never happens but if it does you could be right although it doesn't sound like a pleasant journey.

MBNUT1

To me this says people should understand the 100% capacity of the battery relative to a brand new one of any EV they intend to purchase. It's almost like getting a compression test done.

W205C43PFL

Yup hope it doesn't ever happen for sure.

W205C43PFL

Speaking of capacity, I believe EV manufacturers including MB recommends charging to max 80%, if people are doing that, they aren't getting the full capacity...

Utopia Texas

80% for normal daily use and 100% for long trips where you will be draining the battery right after charging. There is a hidden fudge factor also. 100% is not really 100% and 0 % is not really 0%. How much is it off only MB knows.

W205C43PFL

Makes sense, to protect the battery. Another side effect of batteries are the rated capacity, designed, and actual capacity, I guess not all batteries are created equal after all. So batteries have largest capacity than others for example, so there is mini "lottery" if you will. This applies to smartphone batteries as well, some might last a little longer because they "won" the lottery and got a "higher" capacity battery.

Utopia Texas

Since charging the last 80% to 100% of batteries takes so long the advantage of the Tesla set up is that it tells you how high to charge the batteries just enough to hop to the next charging station most of the time without having to charge above 80-85%. Saves you time and battery damage. At least this is how a friend explained it who has a Tesla.

finlayson

Yes, but the EQS's route optimization software does the same thing (when automatically inserting charging stations into a route).

W205C43PFL

Ah that is good to hear.