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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
You don't have to shut off the car either. Simply lock it and it turns itself off after a brief interval..... Im always surprised about complaints that arise from user lack of info.
I’m not really complaining. I’ll get used to it, eventually. Doesn’t make it any less ridiculous though. There was no need for a start button and the car should auto lock when the key is out of proximity, period. The latter could easily be fixed.
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 03:45 PM
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The one thing that irritates me about my 580 SUV that appears to not bother anyone else is the recirculation button on the AC/ Heating system. Every time one starts the SUV the system lets in outside air and I have to change it on the screen. The system cools in Summer and heats much better in Winter by recirculating inside air. Why do I want to mix 105F outside air into the AC system? The vast majority of car owners do not smoke cigarettes any more in a vehicle. I wish the natural position was in recirculate all the time.
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Utopia Texas
Why do I want to mix 105F outside air into the AC system? The vast majority of car owners do not smoke cigarettes any more in a vehicle. I wish the natural position was in recirculate all the time.
Why do I want to inhale recycled farts, decreasing levels of oxygen, and increased levels of carbon dioxide due to passengers breathing. The vast majority of cars are capable of efficiently cooling or heating the cabin regardless of outside air temperature. I am happy the natural position is NOT in recirculate all the time.
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 05:50 PM
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It would seem that in terms of recirculation, having a persistent setting would be an easy to implement solution.
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 05:53 PM
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I’ve noticed hundreds of vehicles pulled over on the side of the road from drivers passing out from oxygen depletion….😇
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Utopia Texas
I’ve noticed hundreds of vehicles pulled over on the side of the road from drivers passing out from oxygen depletion….😇
Those are all the people complaining about a silly recirculation button being defaulted to the state that makes sense.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 03:23 AM
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Those are all the people complaining about a silly recirculation button being defaulted to the state that makes sense.
Why so defensive? It's not silly to want your previous settings saved.

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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 07:41 AM
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What makes sense is behaving like a real button. If I flip a mechanical switch to another position it stays there until I flip it back. I shouldn't feel like there's a ghost in the machine that's pushing buttons when I'm not looking.

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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crito
What makes sense is behaving like a real button. If I flip a mechanical switch to another position it stays there until I flip it back. I shouldn't feel like there's a ghost in the machine that's pushing buttons when I'm not looking.
So....You expect this car to act like no other car ever acted? The recirculate button reverts in every car that I have owned. The reason is, recirculated air gets very stale over time in a confined space like your car cabin. Come on man.....
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 03:41 PM
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So....You expect this car to act like no other car ever acted? The recirculate button reverts in every car that I have owned. The reason is, recirculated air gets very stale over time in a confined space like your car cabin. Come on man.....
I expect people to use their brains to think and not just imitate the other chimpanzees. The car shouldn't be mandating recirculation settings to me like it's the authority on recirculation. The outside air could be radioactive or have some kind of biohazardous Corona super virus that turn people into zombies floating around in it.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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On all the Ford Pickups I have owned/driven, 6 since 1972, and my wife’s last two XT5’s all the AC/Heat settings stay just like you left them when the trucks/cars were turned off. It’s pure BS that the air gets stale in the cars. The doors and trunk hatches get opened on every trip whether during grocery shopping or elsewhere. I assume some think Central AC units in houses are supposed to pull in outside air also. Yes, vehicles are a bit more sealed but have you ever driven through smoke from a fire. You can smell it in a car even with the AC off.
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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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I totally get the desire to recirc the air in hot, cold or bad outside air, however with the recent bad air here where I wanted to recirc all the time I paid more attention to the recirculation function and I did conclude that it is for safety reasons to have it default to the outside air setting. I think maybe my E Class times the recirc out after a period of time for this reason. I kind of thought the recirc was for a temporary situation like following a vehicle with bad emissions or going through a tunnel. Now maybe they could design it to have a minimum outside air mix to maintain a healthy interior air quality

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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Utopia Texas
On all the Ford Pickups I have owned/driven, 6 since 1972, and my wife’s last two XT5’s all the AC/Heat settings stay just like you left them when the trucks/cars were turned off. It’s pure BS that the air gets stale in the cars. The doors and trunk hatches get opened on every trip whether during grocery shopping or elsewhere. I assume some think Central AC units in houses are supposed to pull in outside air also. Yes, vehicles are a bit more sealed but have you ever driven through smoke from a fire. You can smell it in a car even with the AC off.
Were talking apples and oranges here. A house has LOTS more volume of air. It probably is a matter of preference, really. The three Ford pickups I have owned since 1999 reverted from recirculate after a period of time, just as my Porsche, BMWs and Mercs have done. I can definitely tell when I have forgotten to turn off the recirculate button if I drive through smoke or dust, and I immediately turn it off and notice the difference fresh air makes in my cars cabin. I suspect it is also better for the AC system. I also concede that this is a matter of perception and preference. A working AC has no problem cooling fresh air. Even if it is 105 outside in San Antonio, my AC (without recirculating) kicks butt on the way home from the golf course. YMMV.
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It doesn’t matter much the car will switch back to fresh air before your journey is over not just on restart.
I don’t know how long “After a while” is but MB apparently dont want their drivers sitting with recirculation mode on in their cars.
This has been a weird departure from the thread topic lol
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya

It doesn’t matter much the car will switch back to fresh air before your journey is over not just on restart.
I don’t know how long “After a while” is but MB apparently dont want their drivers sitting with recirculation mode on in their cars.
This has been a weird departure from the thread topic lol
If the AC is in reciculate all the time the indoor air "viciates" and becomes polluted over time. I never run reciculate. For example it make a hot car take longer to cool and in damp weather leads to fogging. MB has spent a lot of effort in adding all sorts of filters to clean incomming air thus making recirculate mostly unnecessary. Unless...... you want to smell your own farts
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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 01:51 AM
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I really wanted to like the Lucid, but the car I checked out was really buggy as the touchscreen interface didn't work reliably. In addition, it just didn't feel as luxurious as the EQS. It felt underwhelming while the AMG EQS just blew me away. I was looking for the most luxurious EV out there, and the AMG EQS checked the most boxes.
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