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Old May 20, 2024 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LastOne
@gxprice Yes "creep" must be turned off for OPD. I have not tested but the emergency braking system should prevent crashing into the vehicle ahead. Maybe it just reduces the impact.

DISTRONIC functions are totally independent of regen mode, as in it does not matter what regen is set to when DISTRONIC is in use.

There are reports that Strong regen with highway driving could result in a 30% drop in range but I think is way off, and is more likely just the typical loss of range with highway driving vs city driving.
Yes and no. When the car is in auto it uses the distronic sytstem to select which regen its going to use. In the city it is also used to follow the vehicle ahead of you. In effect its using the braking portion of distronic but withou using the speed maintaining one. Reharding losing 30% with strong regen, I strongly doubt it. If using distronic the car will maintain tho most energy efficient mode regarless of what regen is set to. The peculiarity of the highway is that you get shorter range than in the city, most particularly if you drive at 70mph plus, something true of all EV's. If you're driving at 80 forget about ever getting 300 miles of range. On my 4000 mile road trip which at times was cold or with winds of 50mph and speed limits were 80 I was lucky to get 280 miles of range.
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Old May 20, 2024 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LastOne
@gxprice Yes "creep" must be turned off for OPD. I have not tested but the emergency braking system should prevent crashing into the vehicle ahead. Maybe it just reduces the impact.
When I had Strong + Creep, it got way too close to the car in front for me to even consider hoping it would do it's thing!
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Old May 20, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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Yes and no. When the car is in auto it uses the distronic sytstem to select which regen its going to use. In the city it is also used to follow the vehicle ahead of you. In effect its using the braking portion of distronic but withou using the speed maintaining one. Reharding losing 30% with strong regen, I strongly doubt it. If using distronic the car will maintain tho most energy efficient mode regarless of what regen is set to. The peculiarity of the highway is that you get shorter range than in the city, most particularly if you drive at 70mph plus, something true of all EV's. If you're driving at 80 forget about ever getting 300 miles of range. On my 4000 mile road trip which at times was cold or with winds of 50mph and speed limits were 80 I was lucky to get 280 miles of range.
Interesting... I was hoping for a little more range than that since it's supposed to be a little more efficient at highway speeds (a cd of 0.20). Well, there should be no winds and it's pretty much summer here already so I'll see. I understand the car will lower itself over 75mph? I'm hoping that will also help if I'm cruising between 75 and 80...
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Old May 20, 2024 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
Yes and no. When the car is in auto it uses the distronic sytstem to select which regen its going to use. In the city it is also used to follow the vehicle ahead of you. In effect its using the braking portion of distronic but withou using the speed maintaining one.
Huh? What is "auto"? Regen modes are No, Normal, Strong, and Intelligent. If DISTRONIC is on then regen does not apply... unless you are suggesting that it impacts when physical braking vs regen is applied.
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Old May 20, 2024 | 05:11 PM
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Huh? What is "auto"? Regen modes are No, Normal, Strong, and Intelligent. If DISTRONIC is on then regen does not apply... unless you are suggesting that it impacts when physical braking vs regen is applied.
In auto mode the car uses the radar to decide how much regen to use in a particular situation. The radar is a distronic component.
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Old May 20, 2024 | 06:00 PM
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In auto mode the car uses the radar to decide how much regen to use in a particular situation. The radar is a distronic component.
Both of you are talking the same thing.
Mercedes displays "Intelligent Recuperation", and also "D Auto" when this mode is in use.
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Old May 20, 2024 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nosnoop
Both of you are talking the same thing.
Mercedes displays "Intelligent Recuperation", and also "D Auto" when this mode is in use.
A reasonable explanation. The other posting about Auto selecting which regen to use was confusing.
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Old May 21, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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In strong regen, you do have to hold the accelerator pedal down further than in normal or no regen mode. No sure how this affects charge/power and efficiency. However, it does eliminate coasting which is more efficient than charge/power status.
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
Yes and no. When the car is in auto it uses the distronic sytstem to select which regen its going to use. In the city it is also used to follow the vehicle ahead of you. In effect it’s using the braking portion of distronic but withou using the speed maintaining one. Reharding losing 30% with strong regen, I strongly doubt it. If using distronic the car will maintain tho most energy efficient mode regarless of what regen is set to. The peculiarity of the highway is that you get shorter range than in the city, most particularly if you drive at 70mph plus, something true of all EV's. If you're driving at 80 forget about ever getting 300 miles of range. On my 4000 mile road trip which at times was cold or with winds of 50mph and speed limits were 80 I was lucky to get 280 miles of range.
I don’t like to use the auto regen in the city any more. It doesn’t brake smoothly. It’s too harsh. That’s why I’ve come to like the one pedal driving in city driving.
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Originally Posted by nosnoop
Both of you are talking the same thing.
Mercedes displays "Intelligent Recuperation", and also "D Auto" when this mode is in use.
The behaivior of the pedal is entirely "fake". Its just an electric "rheostat". The increase in force in high regen is simply a tactile feedback.
I agree. I don't know if its a perception thing (cant see the front of the car) but how close it comes to a stop makes me uncomfortable.

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Just got an eqe350+ suv and immediately noticed when in one pedal mode the car drives much heavier and slower around town. Is this common?

I would have thought for acceleration and reg driving it would feel the same as intelligent. Thnx
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatfill
Just got an eqe350+ suv and immediately noticed when in one pedal mode the car drives much heavier and slower around town. Is this common?

I would have thought for acceleration and reg driving it would feel the same as intelligent. Thnx
Intelligent will use normal and strong or none dependent on the situation.Strong only uses strong, of course! In strong the accelerator is a rheostat (like a golf kart) as you release it starts to brake the more you release the stronger the regeneration. You get used to it pretty quickly. It's my favorite mode in city driving. Auto can be disconcerting in the city since you are never sure how much deceleration you will get when you lift off. I use auto mostly when Im on the highway. Play with the modes in different situations after a week or two you will fund your prefference and they will seem natural to you. If it's too much of a hassle youcan simply leave it in normal which feels like anotherwise normal ICE vehicle.
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