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Old 03-16-2024, 08:39 PM
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Any thoughts on why or why not upgrade 2022 EQS 580

Received a mail from local dealer who wants to buy my 2022 EQS 580. I haven’t seen or heard of any compelling difference between 2022 and 2024 models. I’ll be interested in hearing member’s thoughts. I have no idea what they are offering for mine. It has been a solid car with Zero issues.
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Here's a list I made previously of year to year changes and vehicle rangeEQS Sedan changes over time

MY22 launch —> MY22 regular

-loss of comfort doors

-all season tires (not run flat) not orderable on 20 inch wheels

-trim levels rename

-removal of air balance from exclusive trim

-addition of ventilated seats and 10 instead of 4.5 rear steer std

-addition of AMG line, 21 inch wheels to EQS580 std

-loss of Hyperscreen option on 450+

-addition of beginner/valet drive modes

-loss of standard active ambient lighting (non orderable option, included when possible)



MY22 —> MY23

-addition of 450 4Matic

-change of trim structure (exclusive to trim level package, pinnacle to trim level package plus choice of rear seat package)

-redesign of power rear seat and AMG steering wheel

-air balance + interior assist in trim level package, beltbag +adaptive rear compartment lighting + interior assist rear in executive rear seat plus package

-Illuminated belt buckles in new manufaktur interior package

-Black fine structure console available

-AAL orderable

-USB ports illuminated

-exterior sound experience

-20 inch wheels possible on AMG line

-All season tires (not run flat) possible on 20 inch wheels



MY23 —> MY23.5

-Black/Biscaya upholsteries(Maybe)

-Sonoran Brown

-Walnut trim supported to be replaced with star pattern Magnolia trim (didn’t happen)

-manufaktur emblem package on Black Nappa possible

-Updated rear tablet



MY23.5 —> MY24

-450+ and 580 slight boost in power

-Hyperscreen standard across the board, loss of Relief trim and laser cut backlit trim as a result, also AR HUD now optional on 450s. Also ZYNC streaming

-Walnut possibly available, magnolia star pattern definitely available, walnut aluminum lines replaced with Norway maple aluminum lines

-Nappa leather and massage standard on EQS580

-Black Nappa no longer requires dynamica headliner

-Signature exterior and interior colors available, also definitely black/biscaya

-power rear seats with slightly different design plus luxury armrest with wireless charging standard across the board

-heated rear seats standard

-executive rear seats package no longer available; pinnacle trim now includes exert the rear seat plus package always, all features previously in Executive rear seat package now either standard or only in PLUS package. Pinnacle requires Nappa, so no AMG interior

-110V charger no longer available, now 110V/220V flex charger standard

-heat pump standard, same with front motor disconnect for 4Matic models, updated braking

-AAL standard, 5G comm module, power open/close charge port

-Rear Seat Entertainment, rear energizing, wireless headphones optional standalone (screens first, other two possible as further additions)
-Level 3 autonomy sort of available in CA/NV



Later changes:

-U31 one wireless headset on all early EQSs due to netstar problem. Global error.

-Night Package added as option.

-MY24.5



MY24 —> MY24.5

December production and on

-Selenite magno replaced with graphite magno, only on AMG Exterior

-illuminated chrome trim on back of front seats, not on AMG interior

-Optimization of interior assist both front and back

-intro of Animated logo projectors for just front doors or all four doors (589 and 590, not C53), 589 required for exclusive and pinnacle, 590 required for manufaktur emblem pack or signature pack (actually all 2024s)

-New manufaktur executive interior package with redesigned more comfortable front and rear seats, 7U3. Includes extra recline, more padding, chauffer front seat, etc. Only on pinnacle, executive interior package actually is instead of executive rear seat package as they include all of the same thing. Not available with manufaktur signature or emblem package but is available with manufaktur interior package (Neva gray Biscaya). Only on nappa leather or That Neva interior. Seats have a different code, so each nappa interior option except for the signature ones has two code possibilities one for regular seats and one for nice seats.



2022-2023 EQS450+ 108kwh 350 miles

2024 EQS450+ 108kwh Heat pump 352 miles

2022-2023 EQS580 4matic and 2023 EQS450 4Matic 108kwh 340 miles

2024 EQS580 4matic and 2024 EQS450 4Matic 108kwh heat pump and front motor disconnect 345 miles

2022-2023 Mercedes AMG EQS 108kwh 277 miles

2024 Mercedes AMG EQS 108kwh heat pump and front motor disconnect 305 miles
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Originally Posted by bgrewal
Received a mail from local dealer who wants to buy my 2022 EQS 580. I haven’t seen or heard of any compelling difference between 2022 and 2024 models. I’ll be interested in hearing member’s thoughts. I have no idea what they are offering for mine. It has been a solid car with Zero issues.
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What does it mean by "front motor disconnect?
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What does it mean by "front motor disconnect?
It means your car disconnects the front motor to save energy while cruising. Automatically toggles between rear wheel drive and all wheel drive depending on what is needed. On an EV when you do this you are reducing HP so saving energy. But you still can use it for regen when braking. I'm surprised with this and the heat pump the difference is only 5 mpg of range. I expect in most circumstances it would be more.

I think these are good upgrades, but not enough to warrant signing up again for a slide on one of the worst depreciation curves I have experienced.
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Thanks for the explanation. I think this front disconnection is already available on the 4/23' production amg eqs. In the amg window, when I am cruising, it's the rear that is deactivated. When I give it a little more acceleration, the rear motor engages.
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Thanks for the explanation. I think this front disconnection is already available on the 4/23' production amg eqs. In the amg window, when I am cruising, it's the rear that is deactivated. When I give it a little more acceleration, the rear motor engages.
I believe the 4Matic models 580 and AMG always had rear-motor disconnect. Even on the 2022 models. rear motor disconnect saves energy in cruising. front motor disconnect saves energy in light acceleration.
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Originally Posted by MB37
Thanks for the explanation. I think this front disconnection is already available on the 4/23' production amg eqs. In the amg window, when I am cruising, it's the rear that is deactivated. When I give it a little more acceleration, the rear motor engages.
Don't know where you are, but in the US Front Motor Disconnect starts with 09/23 production for the most part.
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It means your car disconnects the front motor to save energy while cruising. Automatically toggles between rear wheel drive and all wheel drive depending on what is needed. On an EV when you do this you are reducing HP so saving energy. But you still can use it for regen when braking. I'm surprised with this and the heat pump the difference is only 5 mpg of range. I expect in most circumstances it would be more.

I think these are good upgrades, but not enough to warrant signing up again for a slide on one of the worst depreciation curves I have experienced.
On other models it's a bigger differnce, on the EQE 350 AWD Sedan, range jumps 260-->280, and on the EQE500 260-->277.
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Originally Posted by MB37
Thanks for the explanation. I think this front disconnection is already available on the 4/23' production amg eqs. In the amg window, when I am cruising, it's the rear that is deactivated. When I give it a little more acceleration, the rear motor engages.
That window just tells you that no power is being sent to the motor. That doesn't mean it is "disconnected."
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Originally Posted by bgrewal
Received a mail from local dealer who wants to buy my 2022 EQS 580. I haven’t seen or heard of any compelling difference between 2022 and 2024 models. I’ll be interested in hearing member’s thoughts. I have no idea what they are offering for mine. It has been a solid car with Zero issues.
I would wait for 2025. Much bigger difference there. NACS, better efficiency, possible bigger battery, plus all the changes from '23 and '24.
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That window just tells you that no power is being sent to the motor. That doesn't mean it is "disconnected."
What is the difference between a physical disconnect of an electric motor versus a power disconnect in terms of efficiency? Does the motor still offer drag while connected and therefore not as efficient as a physical disconnection?
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What is the difference between a physical disconnect of an electric motor versus a power disconnect in terms of efficiency? Does the motor still offer drag while connected and therefore not as efficient as a physical disconnection?
Exactly, and as someone already mentioned, its not a huge difference.
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