Tested the EQS AMG today!
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If speed is your jam and tracking or track like moves are lower on the list, the Plaid is the pick.
My F02 rear seat is much more spacious than the EQS. But with Pinnacle trim, and rear executive seating with recline, massage, heat/vent, wireless charging, tablet to control, gesture control, and etc., it's actually better than most optioned S-Class if not just as good. Spacious is where the EQS falls start in the back.
And if you're used to getting in and out of a G-wagon or SUV, the head bump getting in and out could be a detractor for you. Despite the being an AMG and the 4matic+ suspension tune, it's relatively well balanced and planted.
The AMG EQS is comparable to the S-Class S63/S65 back in the day, but better in interior sound quietness, driving performance, similar in ride quality, but not up to par with spaciousness in the rear. But I'm OK with that since I have a backseat queen and not the Queen of England.
My F02 rear seat is much more spacious than the EQS. But with Pinnacle trim, and rear executive seating with recline, massage, heat/vent, wireless charging, tablet to control, gesture control, and etc., it's actually better than most optioned S-Class if not just as good. Spacious is where the EQS falls start in the back.
And if you're used to getting in and out of a G-wagon or SUV, the head bump getting in and out could be a detractor for you. Despite the being an AMG and the 4matic+ suspension tune, it's relatively well balanced and planted.
The AMG EQS is comparable to the S-Class S63/S65 back in the day, but better in interior sound quietness, driving performance, similar in ride quality, but not up to par with spaciousness in the rear. But I'm OK with that since I have a backseat queen and not the Queen of England.
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I have 23'. When you driving spirited in strong regen, you really have to get used to it because the brakes will feel harder. Additionally, the throttle is different between no regen vs. strong regen. For example, the software provides more throttle power in normal and no regen mode compared to strong regen mode despite the accelerator pedal being in the same position. As for the brake pedal, unless you drive with two feet, the software applies and moves the pedal in strong regen.
I see how car reviewers don't like AMG programming. I, too, was somewhat in the same boat. However, I drive with two feet, so the transition was quick. But the programming to the accelerator pedal takes a bit more time. Drive in no regen solves all the problem.
In spirited driving, I put it in no regen sport+. Triple digit freeway navigation is a breeze and every car around you feels stationary. Double the recommended speed on curves is a piece of cake (disclaimer: most not all). When in no regen, there no surprise except not noticing how quick the damn thing can get to triple digit and beyond. On sharper curves, and high speed left turns, some people may perceive it as oversteering because they are not used to the rear wheel steering nanny. I've had it on my 7er for 10 years, so not that much different on the EQS.
I'd take car reviews with a grain of salt. It really depends on how much experience they have with EV. EQS AMG can't compare to the Taycan 4S/GTS or beyond in the driving dynamics. Forget about the Plaid. That thing is wicked. I have no experience with Lucid. As for the i7 m70, I was going to get that one, but the deal on the AMG EQS was too good to pass up at the time. I'm glad I didn't get the i7 because quite honestly, BMW went major barge size on the i7. I just needed to change up this time around.
I see how car reviewers don't like AMG programming. I, too, was somewhat in the same boat. However, I drive with two feet, so the transition was quick. But the programming to the accelerator pedal takes a bit more time. Drive in no regen solves all the problem.
In spirited driving, I put it in no regen sport+. Triple digit freeway navigation is a breeze and every car around you feels stationary. Double the recommended speed on curves is a piece of cake (disclaimer: most not all). When in no regen, there no surprise except not noticing how quick the damn thing can get to triple digit and beyond. On sharper curves, and high speed left turns, some people may perceive it as oversteering because they are not used to the rear wheel steering nanny. I've had it on my 7er for 10 years, so not that much different on the EQS.
I'd take car reviews with a grain of salt. It really depends on how much experience they have with EV. EQS AMG can't compare to the Taycan 4S/GTS or beyond in the driving dynamics. Forget about the Plaid. That thing is wicked. I have no experience with Lucid. As for the i7 m70, I was going to get that one, but the deal on the AMG EQS was too good to pass up at the time. I'm glad I didn't get the i7 because quite honestly, BMW went major barge size on the i7. I just needed to change up this time around.
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EQS AMG vs Tycan Sport Turismo
I tested the Tycan GTS and EQS AMG back to back. The Tycan handles and brakes better but it’s uncomfortable and extremely difficult to get in and out of. The tech is clumsy in places.
The AMG gives up some performance but the interior is light years better. The tech is way better the seats are way more comfy and the back seat is usable for normal people. Price wise they’re both in the same realm of insane.
I think the Tycan looks better but only in the wagon format. The regular sedan version looks weird in the rear.
I have not driven the i7, but I did drive a Lucid Air and Tesla. The Lucid is nice but buggy as hell and noisy. The interior feels unfinished. Teslas are junk.
The AMG gives up some performance but the interior is light years better. The tech is way better the seats are way more comfy and the back seat is usable for normal people. Price wise they’re both in the same realm of insane.
I think the Tycan looks better but only in the wagon format. The regular sedan version looks weird in the rear.
I have not driven the i7, but I did drive a Lucid Air and Tesla. The Lucid is nice but buggy as hell and noisy. The interior feels unfinished. Teslas are junk.
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please help me… I am ignorant… please inform me of the numerous luxury features in a Model S… Because I cant seem to name more than one…
create a list of those numerous luxury features and let’s compare that list to MB, BMW, etc.
You can’t even get a leather steering wheel… you can’t even get a steering wheel that won’t start flaking and peeling after 6 months of use
Tesla does not make any Luxury vehicles.
create a list of those numerous luxury features and let’s compare that list to MB, BMW, etc.
You can’t even get a leather steering wheel… you can’t even get a steering wheel that won’t start flaking and peeling after 6 months of use
Tesla does not make any Luxury vehicles.
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please help me… I am ignorant… please inform me of the numerous luxury features in a Model S… Because I cant seem to name more than one…
create a list of those numerous luxury features and let’s compare that list to MB, BMW, etc.
You can’t even get a leather steering wheel… you can’t even get a steering wheel that won’t start flaking and peeling after 6 months of use
Tesla does not make any Luxury vehicles.
create a list of those numerous luxury features and let’s compare that list to MB, BMW, etc.
You can’t even get a leather steering wheel… you can’t even get a steering wheel that won’t start flaking and peeling after 6 months of use
Tesla does not make any Luxury vehicles.
I personally hate the styling of the MB EQ models, so if I were forced to choose between an EQS and a Model S, I would get the model S. With all the options available to me I wouldn't choose either.
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I have to agree that what's on paper doesn't tell the whole story when the tire actually meets the road. 1/2 second on paper is actually about 2 car lengths. Add real world reaction time, and gearing. There are only a few ICE with a tranny on the road that compares to an EV AMG either from a standstill or definitely not from a roll. It usually game over by the time the ICE driver downshifts if he or she isn't in the right gear. I've driven 600+ HP ICE such as the F488 GTB and a few others. The instant acceleration from 60 mph to 100 mph in EQS AMG comes in a flash and is jarring for the unexpected passengers. The G force from a roll (60mph) is similar if not faster than a 5 seconds 0-60 ICE. Doing all this in near silence is surreal, too. However, in cornering, the weight of the EV, despite technological nannies, is no sports car, but just one of the best sports sedan to date. It's definitely a sleeper and a vehicle with selectable modes from Dr.Jekyll to Mr. Hyde, or somewhere in between. It's my John Wick suit.
Car and Driver said, "If your car shopping checklist includes checkmarks in the boxes for "spacious," "fast," "expensive," "exclusive," and "electric," the AMG EQS would like a moment of your time."![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Car and Driver said, "If your car shopping checklist includes checkmarks in the boxes for "spacious," "fast," "expensive," "exclusive," and "electric," the AMG EQS would like a moment of your time."
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used AMG eqs are a bargain.
In my opinion, the best of the new luxury EV is lucid air GT. Luxury/ crazy fast/great driving dynamics/ 480 mile range and has similar depreciation as the AmG EQS. The sweet spot in the high-end luxury EV market is buying a year or so used. 🏆
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they should’ve also added ….that it will be worth 50% less than what you paid in one and a half years later….lol
used AMG eqs are a bargain.
In my opinion, the best of the new luxury EV is lucid air GT. Luxury/ crazy fast/great driving dynamics/ 480 mile range and has similar depreciation as the AmG EQS. The sweet spot in the high-end luxury EV market is buying a year or so used. 🏆
used AMG eqs are a bargain.
In my opinion, the best of the new luxury EV is lucid air GT. Luxury/ crazy fast/great driving dynamics/ 480 mile range and has similar depreciation as the AmG EQS. The sweet spot in the high-end luxury EV market is buying a year or so used. 🏆
on the other hand, Rivian gets panned constantly (as a company) despite the fact that you see the cars everywhere!
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Why do people keep parroting about Lucid? A company that is heading straight to the trash bin? Might as well be discussing a De Lorean. The car is ugly, half baked, and will probably disappear in a year or 2. Everyone complains about the depreciation on the EQS...you know what in a couple of years a Lucid will be worth exactly zero.
on the other hand, Rivian gets panned constantly (as a company) despite the fact that you see the cars everywhere!
on the other hand, Rivian gets panned constantly (as a company) despite the fact that you see the cars everywhere!
perhaps go drive one and report the results.
…….I’ll leave it at this. I’ owned the EQS AMG for a year and had a Plaid 2 years. The lucid air is superior in every driving dynamic(- the plaid ancceleration)has great interior/ huge rear seat room/ great performance / 480 mile range/ and it’s funny somebody driving an EQS calling a lucid ugly lol beauty is in the eye of beholder. I seen some absolutely stunning Lucids on the road and just to add they have just built out an entire new part of their facility expansion. Lucid aren’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future they have deep pockets and a new SUV arriving.
Tesla software still top all. i’m not sure what area of the country you’re in but on the West Coast I see more and more lucid on the road. Also hope Rivian stays in the game as well. They make a great vehicle with constant OTA updates.
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