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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Okay so I got some data from a broker.

The average Mannheim Auction sold value for an EQS580 4Matic is $56500 based on 10 auction transactions in the last 60 days. The values range from 49k miles for a higher mileage car, to $61k for the best one. Most of the better cars were in the $55-60k range. So that would be the right wholesale value for my car. Retail listings tend to be around $70-80k. So the retail margin is probably in the $10-15k range on these, which reflects that the dealer may bear some timing risk on holding time of the car.

We also looked at other cars. The Porsche EV depreciation curve is a lot less steep than the Mercedes one.
So it tracks. $48k trade-in and then they are probably gonna wholesale it hoping to get $55k, for a $7k profit.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:55 PM
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So it tracks. $48k trade-in and then they are probably gonna wholesale it hoping to get $55k, for a $7k profit.
Yeah although trade-in below wholesale is kind of stupid. I could send it to auction myself. I wonder if anyone accepts these kinds of offers. You would think a dealer would prefer buying a car direct from the owner because they know what they get. A wholesale car from Mannheim comes without inspection and risk around refurbishment cost.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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Yeah although trade-in below wholesale is kind of stupid. I could send it to auction myself. I wonder if anyone accepts these kinds of offers. You would think a dealer would prefer buying a car direct from the owner because they know what they get. A wholesale car from Mannheim comes without inspection and risk around refurbishment cost.
You can always auction it yourself if you want to go that route. That's what BaT is all about. But don't expect to get many takers on a non special car. It's gonna have to be an AMG at least. I see an AMG EQS with Brabus upgrades got auctioned off last year, but it didn't meet the reserve.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...amg-eqs-amg-2/
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 02:39 PM
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You can always auction it yourself if you want to go that route. That's what BaT is all about. But don't expect to get many takers on a non special car. It's gonna have to be an AMG at least. I see an AMG EQS with Brabus upgrades got auctioned off last year, but it didn't meet the reserve.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...amg-eqs-amg-2/
BAT is for sports cars, not this kind of car. You would need to send it Mannheim through a broker. But the broker won't charge 7k.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 02:42 PM
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If the buyers were 'smart' enough they would have already got a third mortgage on their vacation home and paid $10k over your asking price....just for the privilege.....this car does or does not come with the pheromones of spectacularly gifted humans?


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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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If the buyers were 'smart' enough they would have already got a third mortgage on their vacation home and paid $10k over your asking price....just for the privilege.....this car does or does not come with the pheromones of spectacularly gifted humans?
Go die already you useless individual. what kind of a twit spends all his time on a board for electric car enthusiasts and spends his entire time whining about EVs.

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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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By accident, and I mean, literally IN an accident, I beat the game. Don't recommend anyone do the same thought -

I was in a huge rush to get an early EQS450, minimally optioned, and bought the first one my Cincinnati dealer sold. Great car. Inside a year on a very curvy road I lost it - it was totaled. No injury. My insurance recovery was close to 90% of what I paid for it.
I started to replace it, but then said to myself - "Hey, our 2018 S560, 27,000 miles, is sitting unused in the garage. Why replace the EQS? So, I did not.
The only thing I miss about it is the 10 degree rear wheel steering. I could not risk driving any farther than a 75 mile round trip to Cincinnati, so it wasn't available for longer trips. Kept it charged to 80%, saw it drop in cold winter weather. Don't miss it. A lovely Cardinal Red, but I don't miss it. I have put the insurance payoff to very good use.
Wish all you current and soon-to-be EQ owners the best of luck and the greatest enjoymnent.

Off topic, I know. Please forgive me.

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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 06:14 PM
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From what I can see, the new EV market is cratering, and lowering the value of used EVs to chump change.
It's not just EV's. We have been making bi-weekly price reductions on most of our dealership's inventory for the past couple of months. Reduced both of our GLE 400's $4k each in the past three weeks. The economy is in a slump, interest rates are sky high, the supply chain problems with new car inventory are (mostly) solved, so people are not buying as much and prices are coming down.
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It's not just EV's. .
People in every genre of shopping seem to fail to follow the simple mindset that as soon as you purchase something quit shopping for the thing you just bought you'll only be disappointed in what you paid the longer time goes on.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 07:30 PM
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Unless you are a car collector, it makes much more sense nowadays to lease rather than buy (cash or finance). I'm leasing a 2024 AMG EQEX4 for 30000 miles / 3 years. I haven't "owned" a car for the past 35 years. No worries about values at the 3-year turnover. Occasionally, the vehicle's value is greater than the calculated residual $$, and I receive cash back for the transaction. NC only has a highway use tax at 3% and it is only applied to the periodic lease payment rather than to the capitalized value of the car being leased. YMMV
Or just buy used and let someone else take the hit on depreciation if you plan on keeping the car. A car dropping 50%+ in value in just a couple of years is wild!
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Has anyone actually been able to sell their EQS without trading it in for $30k below market?

I saw a nice EQE SUV AMG in Florida and thought I might be interested in switching.

So I went on Cargurus to look at value, and it was telling me that my low mileage EQS580 in amazing condition which is 26 months old is now worth $48k on an MSRP of over $140k.
You might submit your car to Carvana and Carmax. See what offers they give you. They usually are able to pay through the nose.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 08:19 PM
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You might submit your car to Carvana and Carmax. See what offers they give you. They usually are able to pay through the nose.
yes the numbers are going up. I am at $56k now. Will check Carmax in AM. My guess is I can easily sell this for $65k privately since my particular spec is somewhat unique on Autotrader and Cars.com.
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You could trade it in for another used EV. I've been looking at a low miles Porsche Taycan 4 Cross Tourismo for the last six months and the asking price has dropped from $120K to 100, or about the same amount of value my EQE 500 SUV has lost in that time.
yoy can get a low miles Taycan 4 cross turismo comfortably for around 80. 100 is where the 4S is selling.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 09:36 PM
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I'd take it for 80! It's practically new though:



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I'd take it for 80! It's practically new though:


Nice. Do you think the back seats in this car are usable?
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No idea, rear seat in my EQE SUV has, thus far, never been sat in. I'm in it for the cargo space.
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No idea, rear seat in my EQE SUV has, thus far, never been sat in. I'm in it for the cargo space.
Okay I am now leaning towards this instead of the EQE AMG SUV. Plus my wife just pointed out that if I am ditching the EQS because of I'm angry about the depreciation then I shouldn't buy another electric Mercedes.

I'm going to get one of these.

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I'm tempted to go nuts and have a full-blown mid-life crisis but I guess this just isn't practical:


Plus I can only imagine how much insurance is going to be on a 1000 HP EV that costs $250,000. Yikes!
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Originally Posted by Crito
I'm tempted to go nuts and have a full-blown mid-life crisis but I guess this just isn't practical:

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Plus I can only imagine how much insurance is going to be on a 1000 HP EV that costs $250,000. Yikes!
That's crazy they made a 2 seat version! Especially since they have a real 2 seat electric sports car that is about to be launched.
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Or, just keep the car and don't worry about depreciation. All cars are going way way down over the long term...these have just been accelerated, at least in the short term. FWIW, just sold my dad's perfect 2018 BMW every option 7 Series w/ 30,000 miles for $24,000. I'm cheering the Maybach EV heading straight down in value, so I can pick one up in a couple years.
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
That's crazy they made a 2 seat version! Especially since they have a real 2 seat electric sports car that is about to be launched.
The four seat version isn't any cheaper. Same dealer that has the used one above has this:



Plain white though? Seriously? Not even a chalky shade of grey? And if they're too lazy to take real pics for 250K what kind of service should I expect after the sale?

I'd still take the used cross tourismo for 80 though.
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The back seats of a sports car are usable, for lower insurance premiums compared to the same car as a 2 seat sports car.
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The back seats of a sports car are usable, for lower insurance premiums compared to the same car as a 2 seat sports car.
One of the dynamics of the market I found very interesting post-covid is that sports cars now hold their value better than family cars. It used to be the case that a Mercedes SL would be a terrible purchase, but now it is a great purchase relative to an S-Class or an E-Class from a value retention standpoint and that will typically offset any insurance delta.
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One of the dynamics of the market I found very interesting post-covid is that sports cars now hold their value better than family cars. It used to be the case that a Mercedes SL would be a terrible purchase, but now it is a great purchase relative to an S-Class or an E-Class from a value retention standpoint and that will typically offset any insurance delta.
Yes. Very interesting. So true of the many markets. Often they are very mercurial. Just like the people that run them. No matter where you go, you can’t get away from people, who are inherently mercurial. Some more than others.
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