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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 02:21 PM
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Who would want to hurt that cool turtle! lol
Depends. That turtle can single shelled destroy the plans of a medical provider who would like to open a medical office in an under-served area for years and years and years. It can stop new water pipes or electrical lines from being run...and, if on the MTN bike trails if you pick it up and move it you can be taken to jail....much akin to touching a manatee with two hands.

So, if Tesla decided to build a 24 place super charger and this turtle was on the lot....plans are canceled.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 02:22 PM
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Depends. That turtle can single shelled destroy the plans of a medical provider who would like to open a medical office in an under-served area for years and years and years. It can stop new water pipes or electrical lines from being run...and, if on the MTN bike trails if you pick it up and move it you can be taken to jail....much akin to touching a manatee with two hands.

So, if Tesla decided to build a 24 place super charger and this turtle was on the lot....plans are canceled.
Plenty of places for a medical office, and plenty of places to ride a bike.

Is that turtle going to wander into a lot in a developed area where people would put any of these things? Highly doubtful.

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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 02:36 PM
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You must be kidding. Hell, as part of the local MTN bike club we have to close dirt trails if there is the wrong critter....or butterfly. For the clinic we are trying to build, the property is inspected over and again just in case some turtle was to show up (it is illegal to touch or move these turtles). It is CLEAR where the (low voltage) power lines are buried. Even more clear where the high voltage over head lines are (as they clear cut the trees under them). What is also clear - the MASSIVE trains that come to our region full of coal for our "Clean Energy"...they are seriously a mile or more long.
Dude, you sound insane. Not sure what those turtles have ever done to you. They are just minding their own business. It's their habitat. There are several trails around here that are closed during parts of the year due to unique local specifies having mating season and such. I'm not going off the reservation about it. Respect nature and the wildlife.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 03:11 PM
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Our Pacifica is in the shop and I have a PHEV Prius as a loaner car. Driving it around with the gas engine is a drag, its loud and buzzy and slow. Charged it last night and driving it in EV mode its actually a very enjoyable little car to drive. Smooth, quiet, not fast but the EV acceleration feels satisfying.

EV makes economy style cars much, much better than a crummy 4 (or even 3 cyl) engine. When you get into higher end cars like my car, you can make an argument for a great TTV8 feeling and sounding great but for most cars? 4 cyls and V6s? EVs are better in every way...except highway travel...
Even though the number of EV’s has not accelerated much, the number of fast electric chargers on the highway certainly has. My wife and I make a 700 mile trip to near Akron, OH at least once a year. We have zero problem finding a fast electric charger. Thus, I thoroughly enjoy driving my 2025 EQS 580 on long trips. When it’s warm or hot outside the range is about 500 miles.
I am one who will never go back to gas burning car. Unlike the guy here who calls us Enviro-nuts, I hope I live long enough to prove to him that he’s 100% wrong.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 03:12 PM
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Even though the number of EV’s has not accelerated much, the number of fast electric chargers on the highway certainly has. My wife and I make a 700 mile trip to near Akron, OH at least once a year. We have zero problem finding a fast electric charger. Thus, I thoroughly enjoy driving my 2025 EQS 580 on long trips. When it’s warm or hot outside the range is about 500 miles.
I am one who will never go back to gas burning car. Unlike the guy here who calls us Enviro-nuts, I hope I live long enough to prove to him that he’s 100% wrong.
Oh without a doubt. Just in the last 1.5 years since I got the S580 the availability of chargers has dramatically improved.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 10:21 PM
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I met a cool guy at the car wash the other day that was checking out my AMG. He has two Tesla - said he relies 99% on auto-drive to get him everywhere and it works great. He will never, not ever go back (unelss he is in his 1970 something or other convertable).

As for the neighbor - Crystal River FL is about 80 miles (from our home to the weekend home). They would have "run around" miles there and what not. NOTHING to charge between here and there. No charger at that home. They own a chain of tire/auto shops. The other cars are all 3' off the ground and 4x4 (tow trucks, box trucks, truck support trucks). They just got the new $100k Jeep (third row conversation) and are upset the 3rd in the Jeep is not as big as the GLS (upset is not the right word). No matter what, the Plaid was not the right fit for them - nor would an 100% engine S63 AMG. They are truck people (heck, most of central FL is).
Nonsense, you can charge off a 120V outlet, but if they have a dryer hookup they could use that for faster charging. A lot of Florida homes also have plugs for travel trailers and the like so I don't buy that they could not charge.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 10:24 PM
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Unfortunately, the W214 E53 cannot use a Tesla V3 or V4 Supercharger with an adapter. For some reason the MB PHEVs are excluded from the MB/Tesla agreement. Whatever the reason for this annoyance, it is not a technical issue since the E53 can charge at Superchargers equipped with MagicDock.
It is easy enough to fool a Tesla charger just tell the app you have a different non-Tesla model car. Since GM did not support identification of the car to the charging station, Tesla chargers stopped checking the vehicle model.
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Old Feb 20, 2026 | 08:25 AM
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With my EQB 350 4 matic I made many trips over 830 Miles one way in ~17hrs with 6 charging stops. I had done these in my VW Tiguan and later with my GLC 300 in 13 Hours with one Tank Stop and two Pinkelpause. When I reached after 13 Hours, I was a mush with pictures of the road passing me still in my head for Hours. With the more Stops in the EV, I reach after 16,5-17 Hrs and feel much better. Still, Botox is hurting same way, but the head is clear. These long Road trips are for me a Vacation Trips. No rush. But one want to reach still asap. The Change over to the EV was for me a more "Interested in the Technology” reason. Didn’t like the simplified Tesla concept and waited for more usual Car looking Vehicles to come to the Market. I take the Route planing to a challenge an adventure level and enjoy the more and more available Chargers. I used to be hooked on the EA Stations for the free charging. Now I plan my next trip with Tesla SC only. The route is up I-75 FL-TN. Plenty of Charging on this route. With the EQE I plan only 4 Charging Stops. Next open window to do this is after May. I can’t wait.
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Old Feb 20, 2026 | 08:39 AM
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Nonsense, you can charge off a 120V outlet, but if they have a dryer hookup they could use that for faster charging. A lot of Florida homes also have plugs for travel trailers and the like so I don't buy that they could not charge.

VERY common here in FL. I put in a shipping container (for storage) and found next to the fence line a 50A/220 line next to the driveway (it FINALLY explained what the extra 50A breaker in the box is). I converted it to 120v and have a twist lock on it for my RV (converted Sprinter/Airstream). BUT...if I did ever get an EV it would change back to a 220 in about 20 minutes - right at the drive. I know two of my neighbors have high voltage at the drive as well....and my home? Circa 1969.


Oh and as for a dryer outlet and stable high voltage on the coast? Why? In my neighbors example is simply drives his F350 most of the the time.

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With my EQB 350 4 matic I made many trips over 830 Miles one way in ~17hrs with 6 charging stops. I had done these in my VW Tiguan and later with my GLC 300 in 13 Hours with one Tank Stop and two Pinkelpause. When I reached after 13 Hours, I was a mush with pictures of the road passing me still in my head for Hours. With the more Stops in the EV, I reach after 16,5-17 Hrs and feel much better. Still, Botox is hurting same way, but the head is clear. These long Road trips are for me a Vacation Trips. No rush. But one want to reach still asap. The Change over to the EV was for me a more "Interested in the Technology” reason. Didn’t like the simplified Tesla concept and waited for more usual Car looking Vehicles to come to the Market. I take the Route planing to a challenge an adventure level and enjoy the more and more available Chargers. I used to be hooked on the EA Stations for the free charging. Now I plan my next trip with Tesla SC only. The route is up I-75 FL-TN. Plenty of Charging on this route. With the EQE I plan only 4 Charging Stops. Next open window to do this is after May. I can’t wait.
Yes, if you can take your time, then this is perfectly fine. There are two variables you can influence on an A to B trip, speed or time. The distance is constant. Lower average speed due to having to factor in charging stops, means longer time to get there. People used to travel by ship between North America and Europe, but today everybody flies, because we just don't have the time to spend weeks on the ocean for a two week vacation in Europe. If you spend extra time traveling to your destination, you have less time to spend at your destination. So the question is what is more important to you? Maximizing the time at the destination or taking longer to get there, or starting the trip way earlier?

For me it's the former. While I enjoy road trips and driving, I wanna maximize my time I have at the destination or visit a nice place of my choosing along the way that may or may not have charging stations. Back in 2019 when I did European Delivery with my AMG, I spent 2 months driving around Europe. One of the legs was about 800 miles from Switzerland to Copenhagen, Denmark. I did that in 11 hours driving time, thanks to no speed limits on much of the German Autobahn, but remember, driving fast with an EV means several more 20+ minute charging stops vs a 5 minute gas station stop. Overall, it did take me about 14-15 hours, because I could afford a detour to Frankfurt and spend 3 hours there visiting somebody. That was also a nice break about half way of the journey. I could take that time, because afterwards I just continued with only stops to fuel and not having to worry about spending additional hours charging. I also had some time constraints. I had to take the ferry to Denmark at a certain time and I had to be in Copenhagen to pick up my wife at the airport who flew there from California to join me for the last two weeks of the trip. I of course could have charged an EV while in Frankfurt, but the battery takes only so much, even though I spent 3 hours there.

I actually regularly do road trips like this in Europe. Was just there last October for a month and driving about 3000 miles. This time with a rental car. I'm not looking forward to no longer being able to rent an ICE for these trips. I do however enjoy the occasional EV loaner when my car is in for service. Whenever possible I ask for an EQE or EQS these days. Nice part about it is that I don't have to fill it before returning it. They take it back at any SoC and for a couple of days I don't have to charge them as they usually have at least 80% charge.

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Personally I think its funny when people try to justify why an EV would be awful or is terrible or was too difficult...its okay to just not like them! Its the constant trying to explain why they are awful or make no sense that irritates me. The neighbor had a Plaid, he didn't like it and got rid of it. No harm no foul.

Highway travel is a drawback, even with plenty of chargers you have to stop and charge. When I travel with my family thats no big deal, we always stop. Have to feed the kids and let them go to the bathroom and let the dog go to the bathroom. When I travel alone though I will get in the car and drive 350 miles and not stop, maybe just to use the bathroom for 2 minutes or go through a drivethru but having to stop for 25 minutes vs having 600 miles of gas range would be an adjustment. I go back and forth as to whether or not the daily joy of the EV is worth that tradeoff...it probably is. I will say though when I am on a trip in the S580 by myself I always think "I AM glad I don't have to stop to charge". I do that 2-3 times a year so its not an every month thing.
Agree with this sentiment. A study I saw this week reported 96% of EV buyers would not go back. But 4% will. And others never wanted one to begin with. So what? I don't understand either why certain people feel the need to constantly try to educate us on why ev's are awful and a waste. I've said here before I drive one because I find them superior to ice...I have an ice car, but it is a hobby and laughably behind my ev's. Why try to talk me out of my opinion? Makes no sense to me. I don't get modern music, like the Super Bowl past two half time shows. Give me the Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Superbowl show or Bruce Springstein's. But I don't feel the need to spend my days trying to talk people out of their personal enjoyment of Bad Bunny or Kendrick Lamar. Weird.
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@nath_h See now I know for a fact you don't base your opinions on reality. I have yet to find anybody who likes whoever this Bad Bunny guy is. Until that football game I have never heard of him not once ever in my life. None of my peers or coworkers had either.

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@nath_h See now I know for a fact you don't base your opinions on reality. I have yet to find anybody who likes whoever this Bad Bunny guy is. Until that football game I have never heard of him not once ever in my life. None of my peers or coworkers had either.

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Never heard of either of them as well, but we're in the wrong demographic and too old to know what young people find interesting.
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Well for you that haven't heard of him he is arguably the most popular musician in the world currently (Kid Rock not so much), which no doubt played into the NFL's decision to have him perform during the superbowl. I don't get it, but I can remember my dad telling me that Horse With No Name didn't make any sense.Tying back to the forum topic, it's kind of like plastering screens all over the interior of a car.

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I haven't seen a halftime show in years I understood on any level lol, thats clearly me though.
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