Why are used eqs so cheap?
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I was hoping that you were correct about the rate of depreciation slowing. A 2-1/2 hour charging stop a couple of weeks ago has prompted us to look for another car. I got two trade-in offers this week for my 27-month old 2023 EQS SUV which had a $121K MSRP. First one was for $33K and second for $35K. This computes to about a $3200 hit per month. Do I have to wait another 11 months when the value is zero before writing this off as a casualty loss?
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I was hoping that you were correct about the rate of depreciation slowing. A 2-1/2 hour charging stop a couple of weeks ago has prompted us to look for another car. I got two trade-in offers this week for my 27-month old 2023 EQS SUV which had a $121K MSRP. First one was for $33K and second for $35K. This computes to about a $3200 hit per month. Do I have to wait another 11 months when the value is zero before writing this off as a casualty loss?
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I was hoping that you were correct about the rate of depreciation slowing. A 2-1/2 hour charging stop a couple of weeks ago has prompted us to look for another car. I got two trade-in offers this week for my 27-month old 2023 EQS SUV which had a $121K MSRP. First one was for $33K and second for $35K. This computes to about a $3200 hit per month. Do I have to wait another 11 months when the value is zero before writing this off as a casualty loss?
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With EVs the big question is how well or badly the battery was treated. Was it always charged to 100% (bad), was it always charged at the max charge rate (also bad), was it every left mostly discharged for a long time (bad), etc. Since there is no way to know the battery condition without knowing at the charge history, everyone assumes the battery has been mistreated, and assumes that there is a risk of early battery pack failure. The prices reflect the risk of the unknown battery condition.
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I agree that a Buyer in a private sale does not have a way to check the condition of the HV Battery. But, I have to believe that the MB dealers would have the equipment to evaluate the battery health. In recent visits to a couple of local MB dealers, I noticed that there are almost no EQS vehicles in stock. I think the depressed trade-in prices reflect the waning interest in EVs. I offered to give my EQS SUV to my Gen-X adult kids and they have zero interest in it even at no cost.
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What I see is that dealers are cutting back on stock overall. Stock is a big capital outlay, and the less they keep on hand the less capital they have tied up. Basically, cost reduction. Kind of annoying as I cannot kick the tires on models and configurations I am interested in (I need to replace one car in the next year or so so am looking around now).
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I was hoping that you were correct about the rate of depreciation slowing. A 2-1/2 hour charging stop a couple of weeks ago has prompted us to look for another car. I got two trade-in offers this week for my 27-month old 2023 EQS SUV which had a $121K MSRP. First one was for $33K and second for $35K. This computes to about a $3200 hit per month. Do I have to wait another 11 months when the value is zero before writing this off as a casualty loss?
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I had to wait in the Tesla queue for one of the 8 of 12 chargers that were working on that sub-freezing day. Then after charging at 29kW for 30 minutes and seeing another line of Tesla cars waiting I moved to an EA location a few miles away and waited in line while two people were charging to 100%. We test drove the GT55 and it was too loud, too firm of a ride, and the rear jump seat back could not fold down with the front seats in a comfortable position. The GT43 was better with respect to ride comfort but still had the same problem with the seats. We found a new E53 Hybrid and will be resetting the depreciation clock in a couple of days.
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I had to wait in the Tesla queue for one of the 8 of 12 chargers that were working on that sub-freezing day. Then after charging at 29kW for 30 minutes and seeing another line of Tesla cars waiting I moved to an EA location a few miles away and waited in line while two people were charging to 100%. We test drove the GT55 and it was too loud, too firm of a ride, and the rear jump seat back could not fold down with the front seats in a comfortable position. The GT43 was better with respect to ride comfort but still had the same problem with the seats. We found a new E53 Hybrid and will be resetting the depreciation clock in a couple of days.
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Something was wrong with the Superchargers. No one wes getting good charging rates. We arrived with 13% SoC and a preconditioned battery (by specifying the nearby EA charger). When we finally did charge at EA we got 206kW rate from a 150kW EA charger.
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I had to wait in the Tesla queue for one of the 8 of 12 chargers that were working on that sub-freezing day. Then after charging at 29kW for 30 minutes and seeing another line of Tesla cars waiting I moved to an EA location a few miles away and waited in line while two people were charging to 100%. We test drove the GT55 and it was too loud, too firm of a ride, and the rear jump seat back could not fold down with the front seats in a comfortable position. The GT43 was better with respect to ride comfort but still had the same problem with the seats. We found a new E53 Hybrid and will be resetting the depreciation clock in a couple of days.
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I agree that a Buyer in a private sale does not have a way to check the condition of the HV Battery. But, I have to believe that the MB dealers would have the equipment to evaluate the battery health. In recent visits to a couple of local MB dealers, I noticed that there are almost no EQS vehicles in stock. I think the depressed trade-in prices reflect the waning interest in EVs. I offered to give my EQS SUV to my Gen-X adult kids and they have zero interest in it even at no cost.
I asked them to check it, and the health came out as 99.67%
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I think the big cost to owning the eqs after warranty is not the battery; it is probably the least likely to break down. It is all the other ancillary components that will eat your pocket money alive.
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This is why everyone should get an extended warranty if keeping post factory warranty. MB parts are absurdly expensive for any model. They just keep going up, like a lot, and apparently there is no push back so they get raised even more. My favorite is the rear quarter window seal on my old CL for $4700. I emailed in about my window seal, and said something like "why are you punishing us enthusiasts with hostage negotiation level pricing, and the prices just keep going up?" I got a typical corporate bs response about how things are priced dynamically and the price reflects the excellence of their engineering and quality. Uh huh. More like the CEO and CFO need to pump their next quarterly earnings results because they need to buy a 7th home, a third helicopter, and their backups yachts need a mechanical overhaul.
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This is why everyone should get an extended warranty if keeping post factory warranty. MB parts are absurdly expensive for any model. They just keep going up, like a lot, and apparently there is no push back so they get raised even more. My favorite is the rear quarter window seal on my old CL for $4700. I emailed in about my window seal, and said something like "why are you punishing us enthusiasts with hostage negotiation level pricing, and the prices just keep going up?" I got a typical corporate bs response about how things are priced dynamically and the price reflects the excellence of their engineering and quality. Uh huh. More like the CEO and CFO need to pump their next quarterly earnings results because they need to buy a 7th home, a third helicopter, and their backups yachts need a mechanical overhaul.
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I think something not yet mentioned is that the EQS is priced like an S-class but it lacks so many of the features of the S-class:
- a rear seat that is nowhere near as comfortable as the S-class,
- no soft close doors,
- lack of window shades on the rear doors,
- and more.
Because many people who buy this car need a real rear seat, I think that first point is the most important. I bought my EQS450+ as a Certified Pre-Owned car and it was returned to the dealer specifically because of the inadequate rear seat. As a multiple S-class owner (who rarely carries any passengers), I can attest to the lack of comfort in the rear seats.
I do love my EQS however, despite it's failings, mainly for its amazing range and the versatility of the hatchback. I've not found any large luxury car that beats it overall.
- a rear seat that is nowhere near as comfortable as the S-class,
- no soft close doors,
- lack of window shades on the rear doors,
- and more.
Because many people who buy this car need a real rear seat, I think that first point is the most important. I bought my EQS450+ as a Certified Pre-Owned car and it was returned to the dealer specifically because of the inadequate rear seat. As a multiple S-class owner (who rarely carries any passengers), I can attest to the lack of comfort in the rear seats.
I do love my EQS however, despite it's failings, mainly for its amazing range and the versatility of the hatchback. I've not found any large luxury car that beats it overall.
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I think something not yet mentioned is that the EQS is priced like an S-class but it lacks so many of the features of the S-class:
- a rear seat that is nowhere near as comfortable as the S-class,
- no soft close doors,
- lack of window shades on the rear doors,
- and more.
Because many people who buy this car need a real rear seat, I think that first point is the most important. I bought my EQS450+ as a Certified Pre-Owned car and it was returned to the dealer specifically because of the inadequate rear seat. As a multiple S-class owner (who rarely carries any passengers), I can attest to the lack of comfort in the rear seats.
I do love my EQS however, despite it's failings, mainly for its amazing range and the versatility of the hatchback. I've not found any large luxury car that beats it overall.
- a rear seat that is nowhere near as comfortable as the S-class,
- no soft close doors,
- lack of window shades on the rear doors,
- and more.
Because many people who buy this car need a real rear seat, I think that first point is the most important. I bought my EQS450+ as a Certified Pre-Owned car and it was returned to the dealer specifically because of the inadequate rear seat. As a multiple S-class owner (who rarely carries any passengers), I can attest to the lack of comfort in the rear seats.
I do love my EQS however, despite it's failings, mainly for its amazing range and the versatility of the hatchback. I've not found any large luxury car that beats it overall.
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I could see myself buying a used AMG EQS or Maybach EQS SUV at some point in the future, when they get cheap enough, provided it's still under warranty.
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I could see myself buying a used AMG EQS or Maybach EQS SUV at some point in the future, when they get cheap enough, provided it's still under warranty.
I could see myself buying a used AMG EQS or Maybach EQS SUV at some point in the future, when they get cheap enough, provided it's still under warranty.
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