Went to a local tire shop today to have them repair a flat tire on my brother’s car and while there I asked them how much to rotate my tires on my EQS 580 sedan. Shop is 5 minutes from my house and sure beats driving to the dealer 45 minutes away. Was told my car had special wheels which required special lug wrench which the shop did not have and said take it to dealer. Has anyone else run into this situation?

 

They are not correct and are mistaken for some reason or just trying to avoid working on your car which for a simple tire rotation sounds ridiculous. All they need is a 17 mm socket. If your car has the MB wheel lock bolts you will need the adaptor for them which should be in your car somewhere likely in the original package under the floor covering in the trunk of the car.

 

On my car a 2022 EQS AMG there is a center cap tool to use before getting to the lug nuts, I had to give it to Discount Tire so they could replace my summer tires with all seasons. My car also have factory locking lug nuts.

 

That’s what I thought. I do have the locking wheel bolts and told him, and he still said they wouldn’t rotate the tires. Probably for the best. We took the flat tire to this shop specifically stating we wanted a patch inside the tires instead of a plug. Was told patch was the way they repair flats from a nail or screw. Charged $43 and saw they plugged the tire instead. I have a plug kit and could have fixed it myself for $2. Needless to say won’t be going back to that shop.

 

For starters, there are no lug nuts. Mercedes like pretty much all German car manufacturers use wheel bolts and as said, all you need is a 17mm socket. Are they saying they don't have metric sockets? The only thing as stated is that if you have the wheel locks, then one of the bolts is a locking bolt and you need the corresponding key in order for the socket to be able to loosen it. And also as said for some of the AMG wheels you need the tool to remove the center cap. All of this should have come with your car, except for the torque wrench, socket and breaker bar, but those are standard shop tools.

 

This is the tool and my center cap. The Mercedes dealer parts dept normally has it in stock.

 

You are correct, I have bolts, not nuts. Been used to taking off nuts on my old cars I just used that term without thinking this car has bolts. My car did not come with the locking nuts, but I bought them from a Mercedes dealer and installed them myself. I didn’t want to get into an argument with the shop so I just said ok and left.

 

That's another reason why I didn't get the 22" AMG turbine. Just another tool necessary to get the wheel off.

 

On top of being hard to clean. The tool is made of plastic and can break. That said, most MB forged AMG 63 S wheels used this fake centre lock design for a long time, nothing new.

 

Here is an example: https://mercteil.com/s3/s-63-amg-him...0163768122.jpg
To clarify previous post on the hard to clean part, mainly because of the spokes.

 

Guess the 45 S vehicles also have this design.

 

You can't rotate tires on the EQS, different sizes front and rear.

 

Are they directional, if not perhaps just left and right of the same axle will still be better than nothing?

 

My 2023 AMG EQS has 275/35 R22 on all four corners.

 

My 23 EQS 580 sedan has the same size tires on all 4 wheels.

 

Oh so all squared, not staggered, then no issues.

 

But do they also have the same offsets front to back?

Edit: looks like it's same offset front and back:
https://www.wheel-size.com/size/mercedes/eqs/2023/

 

I've posted about this before, but didn't feel to comment on it until the video below just popped up in my feed. It's a bit of a rant, but he is on to something. Rotating tires is increasingly counterproductive with modern suspension designs. As he says, many cars these days have lots of negative camber that wear the tires unevenly and then when you rotate the tires the car drives like crap. In Mercedes vehicles, especially AMGs, the front camber is quite negative and it's very common for the inner edge to chew up. My front tires on my C63 for example last at best about 8000 miles. Rotating them for me isn't an option given the staggered setup, but I stopped rotating tires on my previous Audi RS5 which had a square setup, because it just didn't drive right due to the difference in camber between the front and rear. It wasn't as negative as on my AMG, but still it was noticeable when moving the rear tires to the front. BTW, side to side rotation doesn't really do anything unless you turn the tire around on the wheel, so that the inside shoulder moves to the outside. However, many tires these days can only be put on the wheel one way. They are not directional, but they have a dedicated inside and outside, because the tread patterns and compounds are different between the inner shoulder and the outer shoulder. So if you swap left to right, all you do is changing the primary rotational direction of the tire, which is not really recommended as it causes the belts to resettle in the opposite direction and weakening them over time. Like bending a piece of metal back and forward until it snaps, so every time you change the primary rotational direction of a tire, the belts have to resettle in the opposite direction.

 

Learning something again today : )

 

I guess I'm old school and love to show the disc brakes and calipers. The turbine covers them up, and if you had ceramics, you can't show them off.

I replaced my tires originally all same size with staggered setup; rears are 285/40 and fronts are 275/40. The important factor is rolling circumference.

I've never rotated any of my tires for the past 20 years mainly because I have staggered setup. But even on my other vehicles that have the same tires all around. If they wore out in the front, replace the fronts. If back, replace the backs. If uneven on left or right (rarely), then replace both sides.

 

You'd make an exception with these though right? /s

Seen at my local car wash. I love the two-tone paint jobs of the GLS600 but these wheels are just too much for me.

 

It is a Maybach after all, you want to show off the logo. Just kidding : )

 

Yuck! It looks like something on a window treatment.

 

From a distance it looks like a spider has been busy. To each their own.

 

That is a good way to describe it.