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Old Jun 22, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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Deep Dive: Coding & Customization for EQ Models

Originally Posted by runbuh
Can you do a deep drive on coding our EQ's (tweaking things based enabling/disabling region specific settings/features)?

Video in motion
Seatbelt chime
Number of flashes when you partially press the turn-signal stalk

This kind of stuff is well documented for other European cars, even some off-the-wall stuff:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1438...it-begins.html
That's an excellent and very important question. The desire to "code" our cars—to tweak settings and unlock features—is a cornerstone of the German car enthusiast community. We see extensive, well-documented threads on forums like Rennlist for Porsche or Bimmerpost for BMW, where owners can easily adjust everything from turn signal flashes to disabling auto start/stop.

This raises the logical question: Can we do the same with our EQS models?

The short answer, based on verifiable evidence from the professional diagnostics and retrofitting communities, is: For the most part, no.

To understand why, we need to do a deep dive into the fundamental difference in Mercedes-Benz's current software architecture. This isn't just a matter of someone not having created an app yet; it's a core philosophical and engineering choice by Mercedes.

Part 1: The "Digital Twin" & SCN Coding - The Unbreachable Wall

Modern Mercedes vehicles, especially those on the new electric platform (EVA2) like the EQS, operate on a principle I call the "Digital Twin." This is a verifiable process known to every certified Mercedes-Benz technician.
  • How it Works: Every car has a corresponding digital version of itself stored on secure Mercedes-Benz servers in Germany. This "twin" contains the master file of every option code (SA Code) and region-specific setting for that specific VIN.
  • The Verification Process: The official dealer diagnostic tool, XENTRY, must be online. When a technician performs any software update or programming, the system initiates a process called SCN (Software Calibration Number) coding. XENTRY "phones home" and verifies the car's current configuration against the master file on the server.
  • The Consequence: If there is any discrepancy—any unauthorized change to the car's code—the server will either refuse the update, overwrite the change back to factory spec, or flag a fault in the system.
This is a stark contrast to many other manufacturers, where the car's own internal coding is the final authority. For modern Mercedes vehicles, the server in Germany is the authority. This creates a "walled garden" ecosystem that is incredibly secure but makes the kind of user-level coding seen on other brands nearly impossible.

Part 2: Addressing Your Specific Examples (The Evidence)

Let's look at the features you mentioned through the lens of this architecture:
  • Video in Motion (VIM): On older systems, this was a simple software flag. On MBUX 2.0, it is a heavily protected, safety-critical function. A search of any reputable aftermarket supplier will confirm that the only solutions available are third-party hardware modules. These physical boxes intercept the video signal before it reaches the screen. The very existence of these hardware workarounds is definitive proof that a simple, software-only "coding" solution is not feasible.
  • Seatbelt Chime & Turn Signal Flashes: These minor "comfort" tweaks were easily adjustable on older Mercedes platforms or on a modern BMW with an app like BimmerCode. The proof of their inaccessibility on the EQS platform is in the complete absence of support from any established, reputable coding developer. Companies that have successfully cracked previous Mercedes platforms have not released tools for these simple tweaks on MBUX 2.0, because the SCN architecture makes it a losing battle.

Part 3: The Hard Truth - Why There Is No "EQ-Code" App

The reason a simple, user-friendly coding app doesn't exist for our cars is because of the "Digital Twin" and SCN coding architecture. Any software that tried to make these changes would constantly be fighting a battle with the official Mercedes servers. From a business and technical standpoint, it's an unwinnable war.

Conclusion: A Shift in the Enthusiast Experience

As owners of these highly advanced vehicles, we have to accept a shift in the nature of enthusiast modification. The days of plugging in a simple OBD-II dongle and tweaking dozens of parameters on a new Mercedes are, for now, over. The trade-off for the system's incredible integration, security, and over-the-air (OTA) update capability is a loss of this specific type of user-level customization.

It's a different kind of ownership experience, focused more on appreciating the machine as it was engineered rather than personalizing its digital DNA.

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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 06:51 AM
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Your EQ is far beyond Chatgbt SCN folklore. It uses online Security Certificates for unlocking the locked modules, so Video in motion and Seatbelt chime become obsolete ( besides self and others security concerns ).

But despite all that, we are lucky to have @EleBest here, the best coder ever. You can try real coding with his help.
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Originally Posted by trigital
Your EQ is far beyond Chatgbt SCN folklore. It uses online Security Certificates for unlocking the locked modules, so Video in motion and Seatbelt chime become obsolete ( besides self and others security concerns ).

But despite all that, we are lucky to have @EleBest here, the best coder ever. You can try real coding with his help.
Hey @trigital

That's an excellent and more granular technical point. Thanks for adding it.

You're absolutely right. The move toward online security certificates is the next layer of the security architecture that works in conjunction with the SCN coding I described.

In fact, your point reinforces my original thesis perfectly: for the average owner asking about simple, user-level coding for things like seatbelt chimes—the kind of tweaks that are common on other platforms—this "walled garden" is more secure and inaccessible than ever.

And for those seeking deep, professional-level retrofitting, which is a completely different world from the simple coding this post addresses, it's helpful that there are specialists out there who handle that type of work.

My deep dive was aimed at answering that common user question, and your technical insight only further proves why the answer for them is, for all practical purposes, a definitive 'no'.
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There is no digital equals under the current paradigm. I agree that the manufacturer should have control over the programming of the vehicle only up to the warranty period. If that means 10 years, so be it. However, more front end customization should be given to the public to promote creativity and individuality within a less controlled environment. BMW sees this view more than MB.
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Creativity like using Autel/Launch to calibrate ESP or Distronic....the legislation is not only about the blessed owner of the one and only Mercedes is more about the others participants to the traffic...
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Originally Posted by MB37
There is no digital equals under the current paradigm. I agree that the manufacturer should have control over the programming of the vehicle only up to the warranty period. If that means 10 years, so be it. However, more front end customization should be given to the public to promote creativity and individuality within a less controlled environment. BMW sees this view more than MB.
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Creativity like using Autel/Launch to calibrate ESP or Distronic....the legislation is not only about the blessed owner of the one and only Mercedes is more about the others participants to the traffic...
You two have perfectly framed the central conflict in modern German car ownership.

It's the same ideological battle we've seen for decades in tech: the open, customizable chaos of the Android/PC world versus the beautiful, locked-down "walled garden" of Apple.

BMW has always leaned into the Android/PC philosophy. They give owners the freedom to tinker, code, and customize to their heart's content. The trade-off, as @trigital rightly points out, is that an inexperienced user, in an attempt to change a seatbelt chime, could inadvertently unleash a digital gremlin that only reveals itself during a 75-mph emergency lane change on a crowded highway. It's not just their car at risk; it's everyone else's.

Mercedes, with this new generation, has gone full Cupertino. The system is a seamless, secure, and beautiful ecosystem. It is also a fortress. They have decided that we, the owners, can't be trusted with the keys to our own digital kingdom, not even to change the ringtone.

I say this as a "tinkerer" myself—and as a full-on Mac aficionado, I've had to delete and restore my own iMac a time or two trying to go against the "gatekeepers." For those who know what I mean, you get it.

And that's the core of the issue @MB37 raised. We're not asking to recalibrate Distronic with a cheap laptop. We're asking for the freedom to change the number of turn signal flashes.

It's a shame we're left with a choice between two extremes, with no middle ground for the intelligent, responsible owner.
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It was never easy nor with BMW nor with MB when each had something new. After 10 years all became quite easy.

Any 10 year old MB can be coded now,

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The core issue is the same as in nature: There is no black and white and only grays. Programming is very complex, and it gets even more complicated with hardware and firmware versioning from different components. I think the manufacturers don't have a business case to develop a "individualization and customization department" to capitalize on customers' custom digitization demands. Therefore, we are at the current state. Our ideas and innovative thoughts always precede us.
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