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Old Sep 9, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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BMW i7 vs EQS

Has anyone had experience with the BMW i7 vs EQS in terms of reliability?

The i7 seems more like an S-Class to me, but… there are drawbacks. For example - no way to enable what I have on my W222 for the lights - ILS+ is amazing.

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Old Sep 9, 2025 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bdunn
Has anyone had experience with the BMW i7 vs EQS in terms of reliability?
The i7 seems more like an S-Class to me, but… there are drawbacks. For example - no way to enable what I have on my W222 for the lights - ILS+ is amazing.
I can't answer the reliability part but here is a thread on the i7. eqs was mentioned in one of the posts. https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...ar-review.html
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I can't answer the reliability part but here is a thread on the i7. eqs was mentioned in one of the posts. https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...ar-review.html
Yeah I saw that. Very good review of the i7.
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Originally Posted by bdunn
Has anyone had experience with the BMW i7 vs EQS in terms of reliability?

The i7 seems more like an S-Class to me, but… there are drawbacks. For example - no way to enable what I have on my W222 for the lights - ILS+ is amazing.
The W222 has pretty old lighting tech. ILS+ basically just enables the features that have been disabled for the U.S.

Same can be done on the i7 via coding (anti-dazzle).

I don’t recall that BMW has a full projection system like the MB223 digital light but that is not available in the US (different headlights) although the Maybach has a crippled version here iirc.

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The W222 has pretty old lighting tech. ILS+ basically just enables the features that have been disabled for the U.S.

Same can be done on the i7 via coding (anti-dazzle).

I don’t recall that BMW has a full projection system like the MB223 digital light but that is not available in the US (different headlights) although the Maybach has a crippled version here iirc.
Hmm… I’m surprised. The ILS+ lights up the world.

I haven’t been able to find anyone that can do the coding on the BMW i7. Maybe the different part is the problem.
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I drove the i7 e50. Its a great car. Not a big fan of Idrive's... too techy for me.

I would recommend an i7 if you regularly have someone in the back seat.
However, if you don't, then EQS is a superior car with better range.
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I drove the i7 e50. Its a great car. Not a big fan of Idrive's... too techy for me.

I would recommend an i7 if you regularly have someone in the back seat.
However, if you don't, then EQS is a superior car with better range.
I just returned from test driving the i7 x60Drive or whatever it’s called. Super impressed. It’s like an electric S-Class. The EQS just isn’t. EQS is more like a E-Class to me.

But it definitely has some weak points.

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Yeah I saw that. Very good review of the i7.
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I just returned from test driving the i7 x60Drive or whatever it’s called. Super impressed. It’s like an electric S-Class. The EQS just isn’t. EQS is more like a E-Class to me.

But it definitely has some weak points.
I see : ), the other thread talked about the EQS being more like an CLS than actual S Class.
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I see : ), the other thread talked about the EQS being more like an CLS than actual S Class.
I would agree that some parts of it are like the C. Door handles for example.

When I drove the i7 I pulled and pushed HARD on everything I could. I know a lot of BMWs are plastic trash. That i7 was SOLID.

Testing a Lucid Air on Friday.

I am sure I will end up with an EQS in the end despite being impressed with the i7 and possibly the Lucid. I have a lot more trust in Mercedes I guess. For example, the coming steer by wire on the next gen vehicles. I would completely trust that from MB… maybe not from the others. Some things on the i7 were very neat, but it at the same time seemed a bit unrefined or well executed. Their HUD was flashy but nothing like MB option 445 AR HUD. It’s not even close. Their level 2 self drive tech was good… but my 2018 W222 does just as good and just as much… and it is now an eight year old car.

I wouldn’t even think about BMW or Lucid if the EQS build quality and comfort was more like the S-Class. The look of the EQS is even growing on me. Hopefully the build quality will improve.
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I'm a bimmer guy, and I was going to get the i7, but at the time, the M70 was not available. BWM is more of spartan compared to MB. They are more techie, build to precision and for precision usage. I only moved to the EQS because I wanted something different, drive different from a luxury boat but has just as much luxury features as the big boat. And the price was right. It is hard for me to relate to the sharps lines everywhere. Maybe in some future days. I'd rather be driven than driving an S-Class.

I can assure you that if you get the executive package and pinnacle trim, and check some other options in the EQS, it's not a CLS or an E Class in quality, feature, or build. It's in a class of its own.
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Originally Posted by bdunn
I would agree that some parts of it are like the C. Door handles for example.

When I drove the i7 I pulled and pushed HARD on everything I could. I know a lot of BMWs are plastic trash. That i7 was SOLID.

Testing a Lucid Air on Friday.

I am sure I will end up with an EQS in the end despite being impressed with the i7 and possibly the Lucid. I have a lot more trust in Mercedes I guess. For example, the coming steer by wire on the next gen vehicles. I would completely trust that from MB… maybe not from the others. Some things on the i7 were very neat, but it at the same time seemed a bit unrefined or well executed. Their HUD was flashy but nothing like MB option 445 AR HUD. It’s not even close. Their level 2 self drive tech was good… but my 2018 W222 does just as good and just as much… and it is now an eight year old car.

I wouldn’t even think about BMW or Lucid if the EQS build quality and comfort was more like the S-Class. The look of the EQS is even growing on me. Hopefully the build quality will improve.
I will also pick MB over bmw but being a MB fan I am super biased : )
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Originally Posted by bdunn
I would agree that some parts of it are like the C. Door handles for example.

When I drove the i7 I pulled and pushed HARD on everything I could. I know a lot of BMWs are plastic trash. That i7 was SOLID.

Testing a Lucid Air on Friday.

I am sure I will end up with an EQS in the end despite being impressed with the i7 and possibly the Lucid. I have a lot more trust in Mercedes I guess. For example, the coming steer by wire on the next gen vehicles. I would completely trust that from MB… maybe not from the others. Some things on the i7 were very neat, but it at the same time seemed a bit unrefined or well executed. Their HUD was flashy but nothing like MB option 445 AR HUD. It’s not even close. Their level 2 self drive tech was good… but my 2018 W222 does just as good and just as much… and it is now an eight year old car.

I wouldn’t even think about BMW or Lucid if the EQS build quality and comfort was more like the S-Class. The look of the EQS is even growing on me. Hopefully the build quality will improve.
I think we will see significant upgrades from MB when it comes to the next S-Class but I still think the EQS packaging is too compromised for a dedicated EV platform. We had the Lucid Air and while some areas felt unfinished (like their adaptive cruise, Level 2 is just now available) the packaging is phenomenal. The sedan is a E-Class size with an S-Class cabin size and legroom (actually more) and lots of space. Very comfortable at high speeds. Gravity is the evolution of their design and software. Excellent packaging here too but am not interested in a SUV.

BMW has decent Level 2 driving and I think its significantly better than our W222 was. On the highway it's also completely hands-free without having to touch the steering wheel every few seconds. Changes lanes just by looking at the left or right mirror...
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