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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 03:47 PM
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:26 PM
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:-O The brush guard and wheels are awful! What is MBZ thinking?
Although, the 2019 G550 brush guard is leaps and bounds better than the 2019 G63! That is downright absurd and pathetic!!!

I KNOW the 2019 G-Class will be much smoother and more comfortable than my 2018 G63, but every pic I see of the all new G, it makes me even happier I grabbed a new '18 model!!!
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Deutsch100
:-O The brush guard and wheels are awful! What is MBZ thinking?
Although, the 2019 G550 brush guard is leaps and bounds better than the 2019 G63! That is downright absurd and pathetic!!!

I KNOW the 2019 G-Class will be much smoother and more comfortable than my 2018 G63, but every pic I see of the all new G, it makes me even happier I grabbed a new '18 model!!!
I’m not a fan of brush guards period, so mine will come off once a clean solution for the bumper is available.

I first started looking at the G Class just a couple of months ago, so I don’t have any kind of historical opinion about what the G should be. I test drove an ‘18 and it drove okay. I thought the interior was a bit archaic, which I also was the reason I ruled out the GLS. I almost went with the X5M, but as I read more and more about the ‘19 G, I realized it would be a better fit for my preferences. Hopefully, there won’t be too many first model year issues.
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 03:31 PM
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do you know when is the realese date of g550?
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 08:05 PM
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do you know when is the realese date of g550?
Please see my first post on this thread when you first started it.

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Price won't come out until closer to release date.

Maybe as early as August.

Release will probably be September-November.
I don't think this will change.

And I still don't know what the price is, and I still don't work for MBUSA anymore.
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 11:52 PM
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Please see my first post on this thread when you first started it.



I don't think this will change.

And I still don't know what the price is, and I still don't work for MBUSA anymore.
so why do you call yourself nycbbenz then? that makes people think you are the New York city dealership
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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so why do you call yourself nycbbenz then? that makes people think you are the New York city dealership
lol.

That is my instagram name, and I have had this name for years.
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 07:01 PM
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The price did not go down...the $99k is just a holder number until Mercedes releases official pricing.
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Not sure why US prices are delayed, the Canadian pricing is already posted on the Mercedes Benz financial calculator.

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Old Jul 28, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Applying the 4% and 6.3% Canadian price increases yield $128,500 and $151,800 for the US G550 and G63 respectively. Anyone believe that I’ll be within $500 of the actual prices?
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 04:56 AM
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Applying the 4% and 6.3% Canadian price increases yield $128,500 and $151,800 for the US G550 and G63 respectively. Anyone believe that I’ll be within $500 of the actual prices?
yes that actually makes sense to me
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 03:41 PM
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I "believe" the MSRP is 124500 plus destination on the 19 G550 .. which would only be $900 more than a 2018 was... but I'm not 100% on this..just a source I have.. will post up when official
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I "believe" the MSRP is 124500 plus destination on the 19 G550 .. which would only be $900 more than a 2018 was... but I'm not 100% on this..just a source I have.. will post up when official
Just imagine what the profit margin must have been for the previous gen.
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Just imagine what the profit margin must have been for the previous gen.
It might not be as much as we think, even though the 460-463 was in production for SO many decades! The materials used and build methods, while amazing, were not very modern and streamlined and so many parts were specific to the G-Class only. Also the "old" G really was built to last almost forever, and it shows in the parts and build quality. The 2019 G is basically just a 4x4 S or E-Class. Designed to last 4yrs/50k miles
I personally think the profit margin of the 2019 G will far surpass the 2018 and older Gs. IMO.
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I "believe" the MSRP is 124500 plus destination on the 19 G550 .. which would only be $900 more than a 2018 was... but I'm not 100% on this..just a source I have.. will post up when official
If order a G63 now what’s the wait list? When would delivery be?
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Primere


If order a G63 now what’s the wait list? When would delivery be?
the ordering process on the G's have been "challenging".. trims and leathers and paints have all been delayed at different times and getting the right car's people want to order has been tough.. I have two forum members waiting still for G63 allocations as well as two more dealership clients.. so I would hesitate taking more orders at my dealership unless I know more about allocation times and that those people have been satisfied
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
the ordering process on the G's have been "challenging".. trims and leathers and paints have all been delayed at different times and getting the right car's people want to order has been tough.. I have two forum members waiting still for G63 allocations as well as two more dealership clients.. so I would hesitate taking more orders at my dealership unless I know more about allocation times and that those people have been satisfied
im told at another dealership wait list for G63 is now about a year. Not sure about G550
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Originally Posted by Deutsch100
It might not be as much as we think, even though the 460-463 was in production for SO many decades! The materials used and build methods, while amazing, were not very modern and streamlined and so many parts were specific to the G-Class only. Also the "old" G really was built to last almost forever, and it shows in the parts and build quality. The 2019 G is basically just a 4x4 S or E-Class. Designed to last 4yrs/50k miles
I personally think the profit margin of the 2019 G will far surpass the 2018 and older Gs. IMO.
I doubt that there’s any Mercedes model designed to only last 4yrs/ 50km. IMO, given the vast improvements in design and manufacturing over the past 40 years(albeit some of which made it into the old G), I suspect the new G will actually end up being more reliable than the old G.
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 09:54 AM
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I doubt that there’s any Mercedes model designed to only last 4yrs/ 50km. IMO, given the vast improvements in design and manufacturing over the past 40 years(albeit some of which made it into the old G), I suspect the new G will actually end up being more reliable than the old G.
Of course ALL Mercedes will "survive or last" longer than 4 years/50k miles, but since that is about the longest included warranty period that MBZ offers anywhere in the world, they do not have a financial gain to make their cars last seemingly forever, as they did especially in the 60s up until the mid 1990s (the W124 1986-1995 E-Class is a tank). The new G will be more technologically advanced, will lose it's archaic body gap panels, will have super comfy S-Class seats, Range Rover driving comfort, led headlamps, Knight Rider digital instruments....but as with any super advanced, loaded with tech Mercedes...the new G will NEVER be more reliable or have the feeling of being carved out of a single piece of granite like the 2018 and older Gs. I am not putting down the 2019 G, and will probably get one down the road...but the end of the W463 is the end of the last true, great and real Mercedes!!
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Of course ALL Mercedes will "survive or last" longer than 4 years/50k miles, but since that is about the longest included warranty period that MBZ offers anywhere in the world, they do not have a financial gain to make their cars last seemingly forever, as they did especially in the 60s up until the mid 1990s (the W124 1986-1995 E-Class is a tank). The new G will be more technologically advanced, will lose it's archaic body gap panels, will have super comfy S-Class seats, Range Rover driving comfort, led headlamps, Knight Rider digital instruments....but as with any super advanced, loaded with tech Mercedes...the new G will NEVER be more reliable or have the feeling of being carved out of a single piece of granite like the 2018 and older Gs. I am not putting down the 2019 G, and will probably get one down the road...but the end of the W463 is the end of the last true, great and real Mercedes!!
The G Wagon demographic of today isn't buying the vehicle for a long term hold. The values as strong as they are, makes sense to trade up every couple of years. Last major update the G got was in 01-02 and Mercedes milked that until now. They have some R&D costs, etc. to recoup on this new one, the components from the last G were arguably much cheaper. I think it is safe to say that all manufacturers, not just Mercedes, only care about the first buyer who is w/in that 4yr/50k mile ownership period. Different times we are in.

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agreed.. don't know if some people are taking excess orders they can't fill.. I stopped at 6 G63's ... but again leather and wood and some other constraints have put orders in limbo a bit
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Originally Posted by Deutsch100
It might not be as much as we think, even though the 460-463 was in production for SO many decades! The materials used and build methods, while amazing, were not very modern and streamlined and so many parts were specific to the G-Class only. Also the "old" G really was built to last almost forever, and it shows in the parts and build quality. The 2019 G is basically just a 4x4 S or E-Class. Designed to last 4yrs/50k miles
I personally think the profit margin of the 2019 G will far surpass the 2018 and older Gs. IMO.
Originally Posted by abhatti55
The G Wagon demographic of today isn't buying the vehicle for a long term hold. The values as strong as they are, makes sense to trade up every couple of years. Last major update the G got was in 01-02 and Mercedes milked that until now. They have some R&D costs, etc. to recoup on this new one, the components from the last G were arguably much cheaper. I think it is safe to say that all manufacturers, not just Mercedes, only care about the first buyer who is w/in that 4yr/50k mile ownership period. Different times we are in.
I agree with @Deutsch. The material in the current G will feel cheaper than the new one but price-wise, it could go either way. Many parts are archaic and not used anywhere else but the G. Supposedly, alot of hand labor in the assembly as well per MB. They're still keeping handcrafted details in the new G but pretty sure it'll be as automated as possible. Are they still building it in the same outsourced plant?

One of the biggest contributing factor to the resale, IMO, is the double lifespan. Took them until 2012 from 2000s to rehaul the interior. Let's hope they can continue it in the new model.
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Originally Posted by Deutsch100
Of course ALL Mercedes will "survive or last" longer than 4 years/50k miles, but since that is about the longest included warranty period that MBZ offers anywhere in the world, they do not have a financial gain to make their cars last seemingly forever, as they did especially in the 60s up until the mid 1990s (the W124 1986-1995 E-Class is a tank). The new G will be more technologically advanced, will lose it's archaic body gap panels, will have super comfy S-Class seats, Range Rover driving comfort, led headlamps, Knight Rider digital instruments....but as with any super advanced, loaded with tech Mercedes...the new G will NEVER be more reliable or have the feeling of being carved out of a single piece of granite like the 2018 and older Gs. I am not putting down the 2019 G, and will probably get one down the road...but the end of the W463 is the end of the last true, great and real Mercedes!!
You kind of make it sound like the ‘19 G is are some run of the mill unibody SUV and not a body on frame beast with a 55% increase in rigidity - talk about feeling like a block of granite. Besides, there isn’t much in the way modern Mercedes electronic systems that weren’t already in the old G. The cockpit glass is optional, but my money is that glass won’t be he first system to fall. The heated/ventilated 20-way multicontour seats on the ‘18 seem pretty complex to me, but I’ll concede that the massage function adds complexity. Zenon lights have a life expectancy that is only 1/3 of LEDs. As far as ride comfort is concerned, it will depend on what the owners desire. I remember when I had a ‘84 gray-market Suzuki SJ410, with solid axles, leaf springs on all four corners, and a 80” wheelbase that provided a true off-road ride. I don’t want that anymore. So, I don’t see your examples as necessarily being bad.

I am concerned about the overall growth and whether or not will it fit in underground garages.

I know these vehicles are complex, which means more things can fail, but reliability has been climbing steadily since the 1980s. Unfortunately, when something goes wrong it takes a computer to diagnose the problem. I’m driving a 7 Series loaner this week since my M6 intermittently refuses to start. It isn’t throwing a code, so the mechanics are stumped.

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It might not be as much as we think, even though the 460-463 was in production for SO many decades! The materials used and build methods, while amazing, were not very modern and streamlined and so many parts were specific to the G-Class only. Also the "old" G really was built to last almost forever, and it shows in the parts and build quality. The 2019 G is basically just a 4x4 S or E-Class. Designed to last 4yrs/50k miles
I personally think the profit margin of the 2019 G will far surpass the 2018 and older Gs. IMO.
I don't understand how some of you jump to these ridiculous conclusions without spending any time in the actual vehicle that you're bashing. I've owned a 2000 G500, 2002 G500, 2003 G55, 2005 G55, and a 2013 G63. Everyone was better than the last and I loved them all. I'm first on the list for a 2019 G63 and can't wait to try it and compare it to the previous generation. Not sure if you've ever seen any of the pictures that I post but I actually use my G's for some serious off-roading and rock crawling. How will the new G compare to the older G's doing what they were made to do? I have no fricken idea until I spend some time comparing, not just staring at pictures and reading magazine reviews, but actually driving and off-roading myself.

Also, the margins on the old G were outrageous.

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Of course ALL Mercedes will "survive or last" longer than 4 years/50k miles, but since that is about the longest included warranty period that MBZ offers anywhere in the world, they do not have a financial gain to make their cars last seemingly forever, as they did especially in the 60s up until the mid 1990s (the W124 1986-1995 E-Class is a tank). The new G will be more technologically advanced, will lose it's archaic body gap panels, will have super comfy S-Class seats, Range Rover driving comfort, led headlamps, Knight Rider digital instruments....but as with any super advanced, loaded with tech Mercedes...the new G will NEVER be more reliable or have the feeling of being carved out of a single piece of granite like the 2018 and older Gs. I am not putting down the 2019 G, and will probably get one down the road...but the end of the W463 is the end of the last true, great and real Mercedes!!
You don't think a modern auto manufacturer has an incentive to make a long lasting reliable car? How about long term customer brand loyalty???
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