Should I consider H&R 31MM spacers for the G?
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I'm trying to ready my home for a ton of guests tonight. Tried on both laptop and iPhone to load pics and I couldn't figure it out and don't have time to mess with it. Sorry. There are other threads with pics. Look for member jesserohr or something like that - his thread has some pics and info.
I have the H&R 31mm and they have been on my 02 G500 for about a year and love how it changed the look of my G. So far I have no issues with them. I got them after I got the new BfGoodridge K02 tires over a year ago and I've put about 15k miles on them.
One thing I've noticed after installing the spacers is the improvement in handling thru corners. Before if I go thru corners too quick, it felt like the G was gonna lift up and tip over.
Here's a couple pics of my G with the 31mm spacers
Here with his older brother, 1971 BMW.
My next plan is a lift, maybe 2" and bigger 35" tires.
One thing I've noticed after installing the spacers is the improvement in handling thru corners. Before if I go thru corners too quick, it felt like the G was gonna lift up and tip over.
Here's a couple pics of my G with the 31mm spacers
Here with his older brother, 1971 BMW.
My next plan is a lift, maybe 2" and bigger 35" tires.
Just installed 40mm H&R spacers with Nitto Ridge Grapplers on original wheels
No lift needed
#81
These spacers come highly recommended and believe these are the ones Platinum Motorsport has been running on all their new G's.. has anyone installed these on a new gen g550 or g63? any issues or pics?
#82
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The new gen with 22’s is a 1/2” wider rim width and 33 offset compared to 50 on the older G so a 31mm spacer could be too much?
I want to widen the track on my 2016 G63 but also have some original GLS63 AMG 22” satin black multi spoke rims and tyres from a previous vehicle that I wanted to try out, with spacer adapters to make the 112 PCD fit ofcourse.
BUT, theyre 10.5” wide ET 45 then Id need the 31mm spacer thickness to avoid bolts bottoming out, so the set up will push the wheels out too far even for flared arches on the G63
What do you guys think?
I want to widen the track on my 2016 G63 but also have some original GLS63 AMG 22” satin black multi spoke rims and tyres from a previous vehicle that I wanted to try out, with spacer adapters to make the 112 PCD fit ofcourse.
BUT, theyre 10.5” wide ET 45 then Id need the 31mm spacer thickness to avoid bolts bottoming out, so the set up will push the wheels out too far even for flared arches on the G63
What do you guys think?
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#84
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A custom shop by me in NYC said this: they install spacers all the time on G class, they've never heard of MB refusing warranty due to proper spacers, but that they couldn't guarantee they wouldn't. Just stick to HR and good quality and should be fine.
I think you will be fine but you never know.
I think you will be fine but you never know.
#86
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Went to install mine on my 2011 G55 with stock wheels and I needed shorter lug bolts for the wheels so I need to order some. I read stock was just fine but.....
So what shorter size are some you using!
So what shorter size are some you using!
#87
that pic is pre-left...... this pic shows current state - I did 40mm coil spacers to maintain the ride handling traits that the G63 springs have to deal with the extra HP ( I'm also tuning it and adding DP's next month...)
The Fox's truly transformed the ride quality on impacts and creases etc.... best upgrade yet ! I test fit 35's but ended up going back to the 305's as they actually are wider and fully clear.....
another nice thing about the spacers is it is under the threshold for Caster issues and also doens't require longer brake and locker lines ( although I'll likely do them to be safe)
Cheers
The Fox's truly transformed the ride quality on impacts and creases etc.... best upgrade yet ! I test fit 35's but ended up going back to the 305's as they actually are wider and fully clear.....
another nice thing about the spacers is it is under the threshold for Caster issues and also doens't require longer brake and locker lines ( although I'll likely do them to be safe)
Cheers
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#88
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Installed the Blox 31mm spacers last night. Wow boy does it look good. And it just might be the seat-of-my-pants meter but I could swear it seems to drive more stable. Drove it on the freeway and accelerated it quickly to 100mph ( best way to get the wiggles out) and happy to report there wasn’t any.
additional info: fully threaded lugbolts + 150Nm torque (both adapters and bolts); stock suspension and stock tires
Ive read re the wheel bearings suffering. I’m willing to pay more for aesthetics so as long as the wheel bearings don’t give every 6 months, I’m happy.
additional info: fully threaded lugbolts + 150Nm torque (both adapters and bolts); stock suspension and stock tires
Ive read re the wheel bearings suffering. I’m willing to pay more for aesthetics so as long as the wheel bearings don’t give every 6 months, I’m happy.
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Installed the Blox 31mm spacers last night. Wow boy does it look good. And it just might be the seat-of-my-pants meter but I could swear it seems to drive more stable. Drove it on the freeway and accelerated it quickly to 100mph ( best way to get the wiggles out) and happy to report there wasn’t any.
additional info: fully threaded lugbolts + 150Nm torque (both adapters and bolts); stock suspension and stock tires
Ive read re the wheel bearings suffering. I’m willing to pay more for aesthetics so as long as the wheel bearings don’t give every 6 months, I’m happy.
additional info: fully threaded lugbolts + 150Nm torque (both adapters and bolts); stock suspension and stock tires
Ive read re the wheel bearings suffering. I’m willing to pay more for aesthetics so as long as the wheel bearings don’t give every 6 months, I’m happy.
come on we love pics!!
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Built 2008 G55 & one big 80 Series LandCruiser !
I'll have to pull the rim specs when I get home -
What size are your rims and spacers? I currently have stock 18 inch rims with 50mm wheel spacers plus a 70mm/50mm lift and I rub a little at full turn with 305s. I'm in a 2010 G550 so the dimensions may be a little different from yours, but I'm still interested in going up to 325s and your experience test-fitting them is something I'd love more information on. Thanks!
they were custom built rims to reduce the weight ( 12lbs less then OEM rims each wheel - and save another 14lbs overall on the 31mm spacers and extra lugs set..... well worth the extra safety IMHO and to get the unsprung weight down a bit ..... I did test fit a 325 but it actually was almost the same size as the 305 At2's.... they ran really wide ! fatter then the 35/12.5's I also test fit.....
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I have 17mm spacers on the front and 20mm spacers on the rear with the oem 19” wheels on my 2011 G55.
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When you consider spacers you also need to consider the tires you're going to be running.
I have 30mm H&R on my lifted 08 G55 w BF Goodrich KO2's in LT285/60R18 w/ the earlier model G55 wheel which may have a slightly different offset.
My wheels fit flush with the wider G55 flares.
I have 30mm H&R on my lifted 08 G55 w BF Goodrich KO2's in LT285/60R18 w/ the earlier model G55 wheel which may have a slightly different offset.
My wheels fit flush with the wider G55 flares.
#96
Hello!
I've read numerous feedbacks regarding spacers on the G wagons, but I've also seen how much more aggressive the stance it gives on such demanding truck!
Should I consider the H&R TRAK+ 31MM spacers?
https://www.gwagenparts.com/product/...-g-class-w463/
Your inputs are kindly appreciated!
See attached photo of the current look of the G Truck. I like to keep that OEM look but make the stance a bit more aggressive and I feel by utilizing spacers will provide that look.
I've read numerous feedbacks regarding spacers on the G wagons, but I've also seen how much more aggressive the stance it gives on such demanding truck!
Should I consider the H&R TRAK+ 31MM spacers?
https://www.gwagenparts.com/product/...-g-class-w463/
Your inputs are kindly appreciated!
See attached photo of the current look of the G Truck. I like to keep that OEM look but make the stance a bit more aggressive and I feel by utilizing spacers will provide that look.
This may or may not be correct, but I went through this with an old mechanic and ex engineer. He told me the unit was designed by engineers to be in complete sync with how it was tuned with the suspension etc. When you space out the wheels from where they were designed to be, you upset the harmony and balance. It is adding more upward force to the axle studs and bearings, along with the ball joints because you just made a longer lever and have created more unwanted torque. It will also increase tire scrub radius making it less maneuverable. They were designed and tested to have the wheel closer to the hub. The tire wear and steering can be affected. Possibly caused by the camber, from the wheel being out further now. Breaking can even be affected if the camber is off and the tire patch isn't running as flat on the road surface, or steering if it's really out. Thats just what I was told. Lastly he said you like more rock chips! Because stuffs sticking out further now. I go I wasn't to worried about it. He goes what about the old lady behind you lol. I am not caring what anyone does or doesn't do. Just sharing a little story time. (: Your rig looks very nice by the way!!!
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This may or may not be correct, but I went through this with an old mechanic and ex engineer. He told me the unit was designed by engineers to be in complete sync with how it was tuned with the suspension etc. When you space out the wheels from where they were designed to be, you upset the harmony and balance. It is adding more upward force to the axle studs and bearings, along with the ball joints because you just made a longer lever and have created more unwanted torque. It will also increase tire scrub radius making it less maneuverable. They were designed and tested to have the wheel closer to the hub. The tire wear and steering can be affected. Possibly caused by the camber, from the wheel being out further now. Breaking can even be affected if the camber is off and the tire patch isn't running as flat on the road surface, or steering if it's really out. Thats just what I was told. Lastly he said you like more rock chips! Because stuffs sticking out further now. I go I wasn't to worried about it. He goes what about the old lady behind you lol. I am not caring what anyone does or doesn't do. Just sharing a little story time. (: Your rig looks very nice by the way!!!
#98
This is a concise and accurate summary of the consequences of installing oversize width tires with spacers. I honestly don't get the visual appeal of doing this, unless you just want to look like every other bubba driving a jacked up Jeep (and you need to hang a Confederate flag somewhere on the truck to achieve optimum visual impact).
I feel the same way now after talking to that old guy. I talked to a few mechanics after that and they agreed. I like how it looks as it came from the factory now. Actually if you order it with the trail package, I think it does get a bit more aggressive looking because of the tread and I think the tires might be a bit wider, the sidewalls. Mine wont be here until late December or early January. I will know more when I see it in person. To each their own, but for me personally, If I want a Baja pickup look then I will go that route (:
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I feel the same way now after talking to that old guy. I talked to a few mechanics after that and they agreed. I like how it looks as it came from the factory now. Actually if you order it with the trail package, I think it does get a bit more aggressive looking because of the tread and I think the tires might be a bit wider, the sidewalls. Mine wont be here until late December or early January. I will know more when I see it in person. To each their own, but for me personally, If I want a Baja pickup look then I will go that route (: